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Seb & Aaron matching
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Day 5 - There's No Place Like Home
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I understand the young cast and the lesser known actors because their livelihoods depend on the one chance they get and a franchise this massive could help them and their families I get that not ideal wish life was different but I get it âŚ
The more established UK actors the ones that clearly do not need this, what is their excuse ??! Their income and livelihood doesnât depend on it! Their careers do not depend on it! So Why ?!!!
Yep I canât understand it?? If JK Rowling wasnât a massive transphobe and they were still doing this series I get jumping at the chance if you grew up with it - I probably would. But this is such a clear cut case of you know exactly where the money is going because she wonât fucking shut up about it!!
Those who are already very established I hope they have to justify themselves for the rest of their careers. Saying âI donât agree butâŚâ is not good enough in this case. Especially when youâre already a successful actor who probably rarely auditions for anything anymore.
ryan hawley would have killed that being a darker storyline
God if this Harry Potter remake really goes on for like 7 series then will there be any British actors left I have any respect for lmao??

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Thinking about it all again now that itâs morningâŚ
At the end of the day the blame lies with Laura Shaw and the other people in charge.
Looking at the rest of the stories this past year and the end of last year, itâs clear they donât have a firm grip on their narratives and will just change things around and hope we donât notice. And to a certain degree, one has to be flexible when running a continuing drama because things will happen that have to be accommodated for but so much of this goes beyond that. Theyâre creating such inconsistent, incoherent stories that just leave people confused.
I donât know what the original story would have been for Robert. Would it have been the dark prison ptsd story we wanted for him? Probably not. Iâm sure there was always supposed to be an element of Kev also just being an obstacle for robron getting together too. But it feels clear from what Chris has said that the character was supposed to be more of a villain/antagonist than he ended up being. The idea of manipulation was baked into the story and I agree that the special episodes, including Robertâs prison flashback, were meant to be thematically linked in that way.
Iâm sure they didnât have it already all scripted out when they cast Chris so weâll never quite know what the original plan was or if all of the ptsd stuff from the John story time period was supposed to connect with this and tie together properly.
But what we were left with was an absolute incoherent mess and itâs just no wonder it caused such a fracture. And thatâs on them.
One the one hand we had:
- Robert being scared of Kev
- Robert seemingly attributing some of his sleepless nights and hitting Vic to Kev
- Robert feeling like he owed Kev because of the stabbing
- Robert and others in the village constantly calling Kev violent and unhinged, a bomb waiting to go off
- Robert being genuinely concerned that Kev was going to go off on one and potentially hurt him if he broke things off.
- Robert having to lie about the appeal so he didnât upset Kev when he left
- the watch incident
- all of Kevâs threats to Aaron and Robert and others
- the self stabbing still being shown and that being the catalyst for Robert agreeing to marry him and staying in prison longer and feeling the need to lie.
- add in the lying about dying to manipulate Robert into being with him when he got out
And then on the other hand we had:
- apron wearing and cake baking
- karaoke singing
- comedy hijinks with Liam
- bonding with Lewis
- Claudette taking him in being nicer to him than Charles
- snappy one liners
They left so many elements of what I assume was the original trajectory of the story in there but then wrote to and allowed him to improvise enough things to try to make Kev more endearing and then added in the Lewis being his son part to give them a reason to bring him back because everyone loved him and the general audience was favorable.
Chris and people on Twitter like to call him this complex character because he can swing wildly between the genuinely scary and the comedy but because they never made any real effort to reconcile these two opposing sides of the end product story, it doesnât come across as character complexity to me so much as itâs just the messy, incoherent writing of swinging back and forth between two disparate versions of the character and story that were meant to be and became. And so in effect, just poor management and poor writing.
I was one of the people who tried to be zen during the story initially and I did get frustrated with people writing it off because I didnât want to see the comedy elements for what they ended up being, a change in the character and story to keep him viable. And thatâs because I saw all of the other elements that got left in there and I could see the shape of that story and I naively had faith that they would still get there in the end. But the show allowed for those two opposing narratives to exist. And that caused so much fracture in this fandom and Iâm still so sad about it.
And itâs just extra frustrating, as Iâve said, because they so easily could have reconciled the two halves and made him into a properly complex character that really was all of these things if theyâd just connected them. Instead of doing a 180 on his character and trying to get us to forget about the stuff they didnât want to use anymore, just use all of it and let him have a proper redemption arc. Let Robert know about the manipulation. Still tell that part of the story and then let him be forgiven properly.
But theyâre clearly not interested in things like that because just look at the nonsense happening with Charity lately.
They donât want to write their way out of a story properly. They just want to change the story and rob every character of the feelings they should be allowed to have.
Itâs a disservice to the characters and to the actors and itâs a problem.
Again, weâll never know exactly what the story would have been for Robert, if it would have been what we wanted for him, but it does feel like it would have been more central to him and it does feel like Kev was meant to be the villain and it was meant to have an element of manipulation and control that was more prevalent and not cut off at the knees.
And itâs a shame that Ryan never got to play that (even though he kind of did for half of it since they left a bunch of those elements in there) but itâs a shame he never got to tell that complete story.
And weâll never know what else might have been able to happen this year if they hadnât been so intent on bringing Kev back.
The interview is kind of nothing he hasnât said before but it was much more blatantly put and I think the original description of what Kev was meant to be is really the thing that people are hanging on to because it means we werenât crazy for seeing what we saw.
Thatâs vindicating but also so frustrating.
What do you mean itâs going to be 35+ hellish unspeakable degrees again on Thursday?!?!? đĽ˛
Thinking about all of the build up of Robert struggling with post prison ptsd wasnât just for the sake of the John storyline it was meant to actually turn into a proper story for him tooâŚ
#and yet they kept half of it in there so it was a total narrative mess
Yeah this is the part that's getting me the most because if you're going to change the whole story then don't do a half arsed job of it because what they ended up with was still an abusive character but then him suddenly wearing an apron and singing and Emmerdale going "but look isn't he so funny!"
Yeh because if you look at the start of the storyline all the elements for what I presume was originally planned were still very much there. And tbh they couldâve still told that storyline with Kevâs dying being a lie too but they chose not so what we ended up with was⌠a mess. At the end of the day the fault for that lies completely with the producers and writers who changed their own plan, seemingly so they could bring back a temporary and imo not long term viable character.
There probably are other reasons and factors we donât know about behind the scenes as there often are when storylines get changed. But when itâs a storyline for your favourite character and them getting shafted of course it stings extra hard.

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ugh you know what? the way this revelation about the switch up proves that April & Dylanâs story and Bearâs story and Robertâs story WERE interlinked after all and that was why the show positioned the special episodes together.
how their abusers were manipulating them and isolating them and taking away their choices to control them and making them do things they wouldnât normally have done just to survive. because they âowedâ them, except the dEBT WAS NEVER REAL(!!!!)
Ray didnât kill that creep for April and April never âlostâ the drugs. Celia wasnât saving Bear out of the goodness of her own heart and asking for some unpaid labour as a favour. Kev didnât save Robertâs life by getting stabbed, or deserve to be recompensed with marriage and affection.
âŚ..fucksaaaaake!!!!!
the only good thing about that interview is that itâs proof that they did indeed do a 180 on his character that is barely narratively coherent and i am not just losing my mind.
we all saw it and we fucking knew it
Itâs all ridiculous but charity must not be charged surely because I need that baby secret to come out soon and charity canât be in prison when it does!!!
Caleb/Ruby are sooo spiritually robron in the Mill. Like someoneâs got a hairbrain scheme and the other is like yep okay ilu and your crazy ways letâs do this
Is the detective interviewing Sarah the guy that plays Philip from early Waterloo Road??

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Oh good weâre getting an insight into Cain learning sex thrilling
Very much do not like the idea of sacrificing caleb and rubyâs characters for this nonsense but I love actually seeing them and letting them scheme together at least