Vienna Paris

any popular space i enjoy is usually aggressively white centered and just defaults to ableist humor. and i ignore it cause it's so fucking frustrating finding a space that would view me, some random black schizophrenic, as a person who's existence isn't a joke or a fear tactic

All I said was Jax has the more "taboo" mental illness symptoms as a trauma response to being trapped in a computer hell prison and reflecting that in an unhealthy manner that in fact hurts others because unfortunately suicidal self hatred thoughts can make you do shit you regret. When you push people away like THAT.

But NO one's ready for that conversation. And pop psychology is full of sanism. All I said was I understand where he's coming from. Like I have misophonia, I have held MANY grudges. But I don’t encourage bully behavior ever dude. Jax needs to learn from this or he'll just end up....abstracted. You know. Its looking bleak. If they weren’t trapped in hell Jax could actually get help easier. But its literally life or death

But then I got another autistic person in my comment section thinking I was trying to offend them specifically?? And people put likes on it? 💀

I'm concerned for y'all, its not your responsibility to look out for people who are like Jax but if that person is YOUR FRIEND wouldn't you give a damn about them? Even if theyre deflecting in a very hurtful manner? Its so obvious how Jax was lying in a self hatred loop

as someone with a mental illness that makes me behave in less then savory ways there is this weird thing where people who are normally like “mental heath matters” suddenly switch up once mentally ill people have symptoms that aren’t just crying. mental illness can make you a real dick sometimes and I wish more people understood that.

edit: yeah I know being mentally ill is not an excuse for abuse but a lot of Jax haters just think she is just plain evil and don’t really examine why and end up saying a lot of ableist things as a result.

Mental illness is not just crying. It is very unpleasant. We need help, we don’t need to be demonized for something we can’t control.

for more context I think Jax show a lot of symptoms for BPD such as

dissociation and depersonalization (“none of this is real”)

suicidal thoughts and actions (abstraction attempts.)

Pushing loved ones away from fear of rejection and abandonment (Pomni and ribbit)

unstable sense of self ( the whole architpe thing is a way to cope with not having a sense of self, people with BPD tend to “adopt” a personality to mask themselves, we can see that since episode 6 onwards when the architype was seen through that she does not exhibit any personality traits of her own besides being depressed)

chronic feeling of boredom and emptiness ( one of the reasons she acts out during adventures is to feel something and avoid the reality of the circus.)

risk taking ( Jax often acts violently during adventures because of the whole “none of this is real mentality. This is a huge part of why the fast food adventure was so painful for her.)

Black and white thinking ( the arcitype mindset she has does not allow for any nuance,)

I could go on but we would be here all day.

for a brief time in my life I had thought I had BPD (turns out I just have autism which causes me to have unstable moods)

since my brand of autism has a lot in common with BPD i relate to Jax a lot and it makes me really depressed to see so many people demonize her for a disorder she cannot control.

Here's a sort of short post, but I got to thinking about Asgore in Chapter 5 the other day during work, and I kinda realized something... I don't think Asgore's turnaround at the end of Chapter 5 makes much sense at all. I don't just mean in the sense that it's rushed, or that we barely see any of Asgore so there's no buildup, or that his relationship with the rest of the flowers, which are meant to parallel his behavior to his actual family, is all but ignored by him making the resolution pretty ironic... I mean, Kris getting hurt in the Dark World shouldn't have changed him the way it did. At the end of Chapter 5, Asgore proclaims that, upon seeing Kris hurt, he realizes that he was so busy chasing Dark Worlds, to find the truth, that he sees now that he neglected his family's actual feelings about himself and the situation as his own self-hatred consumed him and drove him away from them. None of this is to say that his fascination and concern around the Dark Worlds was a lie, however. Sure, part of the reason he was so motivated was to prove that he was right, and to absolve himself from his perceived guilt, but... that doesn't mean that Dark Worlds don't genuinely fascinate him, or that he's wrong about them being dangerous. He still has a duty to figure this mystery out. He's still, seemingly, under Carol's thumb and is financially incentivized to find out more. If the Knight weren't to kidnap Asgore, I highly doubt that he would've just completely stopped all this research after just finding out that actual genuine real-life ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS exist.

All of this is to say... what notions towards Dark Worlds does Asgore have during Chapter 5? They're mysterious, they're dangerous, and they were likely involved in the single greatest tragedy in his entire life. In his friends' and familys' entire lives.

Asgore is also, of course, motivated by wanting things to go back to the way they were. He wants to be with Toriel again, to be with his family again. Not just to show he was right, but to protect them. Why else would he be freaking out over Kris being in the Dark World? This is what this Chapter sets up, throughout the entire thing. Then, we get to his turnaround. Upon seeing Kris sprawled out on the ground, weak from battle, being yelled at by Flowery (More on him in a bit)... he runs over, clearly scared and infuriated at the situation... but then, right after Blue heals them, he just... calms down right away, and goes onto Vaguedump about The Incident. As shown in the first image here, he even blames HIMSELF for Kris getting hurt here, when... I mean yeah, I guess in a way it was but like... Flowery is RIGHT behind you, dude!

Here's a sort of short post, but I got to thinking about Asgore in Chapter 5 the other day during work, and I kinda realized something... I don't think Asgore's turnaround at the end of Chapter 5 makes much sense at all. I don't just mean in the sense that it's rushed, or that we barely see any of Asgore so there's no buildup, or that his relationship with the rest of the flowers, which are meant to parallel his behavior to his actual family, is all but ignored by him making the resolution pretty ironic... I mean, Kris getting hurt in the Dark World shouldn't have changed him the way it did. At the end of Chapter 5, Asgore proclaims that, upon seeing Kris hurt, he realizes that he was so busy chasing Dark Worlds, to find the truth, that he sees now that he neglected his family's actual feelings about himself and the situation as his own self-hatred consumed him and drove him away from them. None of this is to say that his fascination and concern around the Dark Worlds was a lie, however. Sure, part of the reason he was so motivated was to prove that he was right, and to absolve himself from his perceived guilt, but... that doesn't mean that Dark Worlds don't genuinely fascinate him, or that he's wrong about them being dangerous. He still has a duty to figure this mystery out. He's still, seemingly, under Carol's thumb and is financially incentivized to find out more. If the Knight weren't to kidnap Asgore, I highly doubt that he would've just completely stopped all this research after just finding out that actual genuine real-life ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS exist.

All of this is to say... what notions towards Dark Worlds does Asgore have during Chapter 5? They're mysterious, they're dangerous, and they were likely involved in the single greatest tragedy in his entire life. In his friends' and familys' entire lives.

Asgore is also, of course, motivated by wanting things to go back to the way they were. He wants to be with Toriel again, to be with his family again. Not just to show he was right, but to protect them. Why else would he be freaking out over Kris being in the Dark World? This is what this Chapter sets up, throughout the entire thing. Then, we get to his turnaround. Upon seeing Kris sprawled out on the ground, weak from battle, being yelled at by Flowery (More on him in a bit)... he runs over, clearly scared and infuriated at the situation... but then, right after Blue heals them, he just... calms down right away, and goes onto Vaguedump about The Incident. As shown in the first image here, he even blames HIMSELF for Kris getting hurt here, when... I mean yeah, I guess in a way it was but like... Flowery is RIGHT behind you, dude!

Here's a sort of short post, but I got to thinking about Asgore in Chapter 5 the other day during work, and I kinda realized something... I don't think Asgore's turnaround at the end of Chapter 5 makes much sense at all. I don't just mean in the sense that it's rushed, or that we barely see any of Asgore so there's no buildup, or that his relationship with the rest of the flowers, which are meant to parallel his behavior to his actual family, is all but ignored by him making the resolution pretty ironic... I mean, Kris getting hurt in the Dark World shouldn't have changed him the way it did. At the end of Chapter 5, Asgore proclaims that, upon seeing Kris hurt, he realizes that he was so busy chasing Dark Worlds, to find the truth, that he sees now that he neglected his family's actual feelings about himself and the situation as his own self-hatred consumed him and drove him away from them. None of this is to say that his fascination and concern around the Dark Worlds was a lie, however. Sure, part of the reason he was so motivated was to prove that he was right, and to absolve himself from his perceived guilt, but... that doesn't mean that Dark Worlds don't genuinely fascinate him, or that he's wrong about them being dangerous. He still has a duty to figure this mystery out. He's still, seemingly, under Carol's thumb and is financially incentivized to find out more. If the Knight weren't to kidnap Asgore, I highly doubt that he would've just completely stopped all this research after just finding out that actual genuine real-life ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS exist.

All of this is to say... what notions towards Dark Worlds does Asgore have during Chapter 5? They're mysterious, they're dangerous, and they were likely involved in the single greatest tragedy in his entire life. In his friends' and familys' entire lives.

Asgore is also, of course, motivated by wanting things to go back to the way they were. He wants to be with Toriel again, to be with his family again. Not just to show he was right, but to protect them. Why else would he be freaking out over Kris being in the Dark World? This is what this Chapter sets up, throughout the entire thing. Then, we get to his turnaround. Upon seeing Kris sprawled out on the ground, weak from battle, being yelled at by Flowery (More on him in a bit)... he runs over, clearly scared and infuriated at the situation... but then, right after Blue heals them, he just... calms down right away, and goes onto Vaguedump about The Incident. As shown in the first image here, he even blames HIMSELF for Kris getting hurt here, when... I mean yeah, I guess in a way it was but like... Flowery is RIGHT behind you, dude!