ShinDidNothingWrong

Im done

Like legitimately Im done

If you’ve read from 57 to 80 and genuinely came to that conclusion there is no helping you, even if I explained in depth all the things wrong with this and using panels from the danm manga itself it would fall on deaf ears because you cant fix this level of stupid you just cant.

And I usually avoid calling ppl stupid, but sometimes ppl spout the most mind numbing headache inducing takes you cant help BUT call it out for what it is, STUPID.

And before anyone says ‘nuh uh, Boruto and Kawaki are supposed to represent Naruto and Sasuke so that doesnt count’

You are partially right in that, Boruto and Kawaki are definitely heavily marketed and referenced Naruto and Sasuke in many ways.

However lets not overlook that Boruto and Sarada shared that connection first and still does in many ways, I’ll give several examples.

Note: there are MANY official arts featuring them with their fathers that look more like family photos rather than shipping material [kinda weird to have their dads constantly watching them being lovey dovey if that was the case, looks more like two brothers hangin with their kids that reminds them of themselves than two fathers watching their children be inlove]

The context Im pointing out here is how Sasuke and Sarada point out Naruto and Boruto dont understand what its like to be in their shoes, just Sarada was less aggressive but her point still stood that unlike her Boruto KNEW who he was and where he was delivering to and if she was in his shoes she’d gladly make the effort to bring her father the food, but unlike him she doesnt know her dad nor have any clue where he is or has been all this time. So the situations are different but the context is the same, them calling the other out for their ignorance.

Worst part is all this is STILL not even half of what all exists but you get the point, Boruto and Sarada may have alot in common with NS more than SNS atp [for obvious reasons as Kawaki was introduced] but the fact remains they were HEAVILY SNS coded and still are to an extent, it was very clear from Kishimotos original writing he intended for Naruto and Sasuke to pass the torch to the new generation with Sarada filling Narutos role and Boruto Sasuke’s, ending 14 literally has Sasuke and Naruto watching them from the Hokage mountain, at the end of the Boruto movie which Kishi wrote had Sasuke looking on proudly at the kids professing their newfound dreams.

You’d think this would’ve been obvious when Sarada decided to follow Narutos path and Boruto decided to follow Sasuke’s it was very apparent that the two were meant to succeed their fathers and continue on the close Uzumaki/Uchiha friendship [Kushina/Mikoto, Hashirama/Madara, Obito/Kushina, Naruto/Sasuke] it was NOT implied to be romantic, they were entirely marketed as the new Naruto and Sasuke, a blush or two doesnt = romance when Naruto and Sasuke have blushed for eachother as well, which leads me to the point of this post.

If BoruSara is canon theres really nothing else to say about SNS because they’d be right, even if that isnt the intent or message they are tryin to send the fact remains thats exactly what they’ll convey, that Naruto and Sasuke 100% would’ve been endgame if not for both being males, because the fact that they have been so heavily foreshadowed as taking over their fathers role, sharing a similar bond and many similar moments, theres no way to deny that the only reason these two are pushed together romantically is because their boy and girl, you could probably argue at that point that Naruto and Sasuke actually were as well if thats the case with Boruto and Sarada.

At the moment their relationship has been completely platonic, they are close friends, teammates, and rivals just like their fathers were, and nothing about their relationship is explicitly romantic just like it wasnt for their fathers as well.

However, if they DO turn Boruto and Sarada’s relationship into a romantic one and confirm all those scenes, interactions etc were indeed part of their romantic development, you cannot argue the same couldnt have been true for Naruto and Sasuke anymore, not even the fact that they see eachother as brothers is a factor anymore since Sarada said the same and still ends up with him, theres no argument anymore.

Listen everything I’ve mentioned is exactly why I dont think BoruSara will be endgame, but Im realistic enough to not say it isnt a possibility at all, so if the worse case scenario happens and they are indeed canon we gotta concede that SNS fans were right, the only thing that held SNS back was bein men, sad but true.

It still baffles me how some SS fans even ship BoruSara considering it literally mirrors the two main ships they were against, NaruSaku and SNS, and yet now their shipping the split image of those ships...truly makes you wonder...but thats another topic for another day.

Point is I dread the day this is actually confirmed because if Kishi and co thought the outrage was bad before its gonna be 10x worse if they pull that cuz it’ll prove everyones suspicions right that there was homophobia behind the scenes, alot of ppl claim to tolerate BoruSara since its the closest they’ll get to SNS but deep down if it was actually confirmed they’ll be outraged because lets be real, although some of them may settle for it in theory doesnt mean their actually ok with the ‘homophobia’ being confirmed, they may even come to resent the ship for ‘stealing’ what SNS had and should’ve been.

The NS shippers who see this as compensation for Kishis ‘betrayal’ will be fine in this case since theres no negative cannotations for them if their canon, it’ll just prove to them that NS should’ve been canon but Kishi ‘sold out’ but is now atoning for his sins and ‘fixing’ his mistakes.

Not even makin that up thats literally what they think BoruSara is, Kishi ‘fixing’ his mistakes despite him never once saying he regretted his endgame ships, only the fandom views it as a ‘mistake’ while Kishimoto proudly speaks on every ship with no remorse, he didnt even realize he had caused such controversy, man lied to his own wife just to appease her, thats not something you’d do if you felt you made the wrong decision, instead he would’ve apologized but nah, he just flat out said NS was never a serious consideration for him, he already had his endgame decided and he stuck to it.

So to say Kishimoto is ‘fixing’ his mistakes by making BoruSara canon would mean he’d have to regret his endgame pairings which he doesnt, hes made that abundantly clear in numerous interviews that he was proud of his decision and deliberately ignored everyone who pushed for NS even his own wife, so why ppl think Kishimoto is trying to ‘fix’ a mistake he doesnt even view as a mistake is baffling to me.

If it wasnt obvious this is gonna be an anti Sumire and Code post, you’ve been warned. Manga spoilers too so if your anime only dont read this.

For starters this isnt really anti Sumire as it is the writing, but given the writing for her is shit I have no choice but to work with what they give me.

Lets start with Code, he was talking mad spicy and his limiters being removed have been hyped up since they were first mentioned, and even before the topic of his limiters came up he was portrayed as still being able to rival Naruto and Sasuke.

He says after he gets his limiters off that now he cant lose to anyone, only to get his ass whooped by a child who looks no older than 8

Code is utterly useless, he was given a huge tip on how Daemons powers work and he still got his ass whooped and Daemon himself says hes the strongest out of everyone, a literal child is somehow stronger than unlimited Code, Isshiki, Naruto, and Sasuke combined. Thats a whole other bag of worms to be discussed later but right now we’re just focusing on Code.

This is pathetic, all that hype with zero pay off, all that big talk just to get overpowered by a child, all that planning yet he couldnt see the double cross anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense would’ve saw coming a mile away. The fact that everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE including Bug has called him useless is a testament to just how BAD he is at everything he tries to do.

Now lets move on to Sumire, self appointed ‘sherlock holmes’, remember all this?

We really should’ve saw this coming when Amado said this, he was right on the money because thats exactly what she is, stupid.

From the very beginning shes been suspicious of him, thats her whole reason for becoming his ‘assistant’, to keep an eye on him and of course to ask Kawaki about Boruto but thats a separate topic. She appointed HERSELF as a spy because SHE was suspicious of him, thats why shes there working with him. Amado even calls her a genius and claims she was such a ‘oh so big’ help to him during the process of recreating and reattaching Kawakis arm, which is an important detail for what Im about to say next.

EXCUSE ME? IRRATIONAL GROUNDLESS FEAR? NO PROOF?

HE TOLD YOU HE COULD RE-IMPLANT KARMA ON KAWAKI WHICH HE DIDNT TELL ANYONE ELSE

HE TOLD YOU HE HAD A HIDDEN AGENDA FOR KAWAKI THAT HES PURPOSEFULLY NOT TELLING YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WHAT IT IS

HES ACTED SUSPICIOUS MULTIPLE TIMES WITH HIS UNUSUAL CONCERN FOR KAWAKI THATS CLEARLY MOTIVATED BY HIS OWN SELF INTEREST

SO HOW TF IS HER SUSPICIONS GROUNDLESS AND HOW TF DOES SHE NOT HAVE ANY PROOF? HES LITERALLY TOLD HER EVERYTHING TO HER FACE!!!!

Now how does this make her useless you ask? glad you asked

Amado put Karma back on Kawaki right under her nose, keep in mind, the whole reason she became his assistant was because she was suspicious of him and wanted to keep an eye on him, AMADO HIMSELF says that she was VERY much involved with the reattaching of Kawakis arm, he says he COULDNT have done it without her.

Now this implies 1 of 2 things

1 Amado was lyin his ass off and Sumire really didnt do much of anything, he just said that to make it seem like she did something

2 Sumire is fkin useless and didnt pay attention to what he was doing like she was supposed to

But lets give her the benefit of the doubt and say maybe the Karma implantation was something unnoticeable, lets just go ahead and say thats true

Explain this then

He not only re-implanted Karma right under Sumire’s nose, but he also put an emergency shut down function right infront of her too that now gives Amado and Ada/Daemon all the leverage that should’ve been prevented.

YOU. HAD. ONE. FKING. JOB. AND. YOU. BLEW. IT.

I dont wanna hear Sumire stans ever talk about her being a genius, her having this grand plan, her being sherlock holmes which the fkin audacity to even put them in the same sentence when THIS is her detective work, I dont wanna hear none of it.

All that true heroine, important role, genius, super spy nonsense is all out the fkin window now, this is absolutely indefensible no matter how much you stan her shes a danm DISGRACE.

Keep in mind to put in an emergency shut down function that’ll effect his entire body he has to put SOMETHING in him, something that’d have to look suspicious for just reattaching his arm and you want me to believe she just DIDNT question it? and if she did and he gave a half assed answer she just went along with it? she didnt tell nobody?

Fucking USELESS.

But hey dont get me wrong, Im not blaming everything on Sumire because lets be real, none of this would’ve happened if the grown ass men in charge actually PUT Amado under tight surveillance by Jonin like Sai and Hibiki who specialize in spying, interrogation, and intelligence work, hell to be extra thorough assign a Yamanaka there as well to probe his brain if they sense he not bein totally honest with them. 

Why was he constantly left alone with a danm child as the only person watching him and that was by her own CHOICE not cuz anyone was suspicious and asked her to spy on him no, she CHOSE to spy on him from her own suspicions, which means if she HADNT been suspicious then Amado would’ve been operating on Kawaki totally unsupervised!!!!

So please dont get it twisted and think this is me putting it all on Sumire nah, there are plenty of other ppl just as much at fault here if not more so, Naruto and Shikamaru being the biggest ones at fault for whats happening because of their complete and total incompetence.

Regardless that doesnt excuse Sumire from any of the blame, EVERYBODY should be held accountable for their role in this happening and that includes her, because she was the only one watchin him, she heard from his own mouth of his ulterior motives and alerted NO ONE, she watched and helped him work on Kawaki and she noticed NOTHING and if she did she clearly still let it happen without telling anyone what she saw to demand an explanation. She kept questioning Amado HERSELF and getting zero answers as if he has any reason to respond to some kid askin questions instead of going and getting ppl higher up who CAN make him talk like the mf Hokage or his advisor or hell even Sai who was RIGHT THERE WITH HER and she STILL kept her mouth shut.

THERE. IS. NO. DEFENDING. THIS.

Sumire and Code are the two most useless characters in this sequel thus far which is a feat I didnt think anyone could ever share with Code but this chapter just proved it can. I genuine feel bad for how Code has been utterly disrespected beyond repair and I feel bad for Sumire and how shit shes been written, be that as it may I dont feel too bad because we’ve been saying this was gonna happen for the longest now but stans kept claiming what a big important role she was gonna have and how she has this grand plan that not only was her role unimportant and simply to point out Amado was sus which everyone already knew, but she also had no plan and she herself admits she wasnt even confident in her own suspicions which is why she carelessly allowed all of this to happen right under her watch. Its a bad time to be a Sumire fan for manga readers right now.

Warning: Anti KawaSumi post, dont like dont read.

KawaSumi didnt grow in popularity because it had any basis or development or even a bond or good chemistry, despite what this fandom wants you to believe because unfortunately this side of the fandom has many silent voices and only a few brave handful of us actually speak up and speak out, despite what they wanna brainwash you to believe KawaSumi really doesnt have a leg to stand on and nobody genuinely joined the ship because there was actually any basis for it, the real reason ppl started pushing this pathetic keep away ship was because of big biased exposure.

1 SP is no stranger to making their biases known, nor do they make it any secret which ships and characters they favor more than others, for example the studio clearly has a great dislike for Sakura, Sasuke, and SasuSaku and clearly favored Naruto and Hinata, for a long while it was clear the studio REALLY wanted NaruSaku endgame up till a certain point they realized NaruHina was most likely endgame they started clearly showing excessive favoritism to Hinata and NH and suddenly pretending as if they never supported NaruSaku even tho it was revealed many of them did and were upset it didnt happen.

Long story short, history is repeating itself with now SP clearly having a strong bias for BoruSara, lets just not even pretend their not highkey pushing the ship cuz they are, that doesnt mean it’ll be canon tho but they ARE showing a clear bias towards it. Honda, a writer at the studio, is notorious for some of the worst written episodes in the franchise minus 2 episodes that were actually done well, hes known for writing things based on ‘his interpretations’ rather than whats established in canon, as such it often leads to horrible characterizations, inconsistencies, and just terrible writing altogether.

These details are important for this first point, KawaSumi growing in popularity due to biased exposure.

To sum it up, the first and arguably the biggest thing to kickstart this mess was SPs bias, rather than sticking to what was established in the manga they created a whole nother timeline and course of events which for some unusually convenient reason featured Sumire being the first person to care about and reach out to Kawaki before Naruto and Sarada, to be the first to see and understand and relate to his pain before Naruto and Sarada.

Keep in mind, put shipping aside for a moment, Naruto was Kawakis FIRST bond, the FIRST to care about him, the FIRST to understand and see his pain and relate to him and see HIMSELF in him, that is what made his and Narutos bond so special.

Even though nothing Sumire said mattered or got through to him at all, that didnt matter to that fanbase tho, the seeds were planted and now till this day ppl say that SUMIRE is his first bond, the first to care, the first to understand, the first to relate and see herself in him, his first friend etc. Guess who was the writer for those episodes? Honda of course, nuff said.

Those two episodes single handedly undercut Naruto and Sarada’s bond with Kawaki entirely, it put Sumire on this pedestal while Naruto and Sarada are beneath her, the fact that Sumire had to BEG Naruto to hear Kawaki out and give him a chance when in the manga Naruto instantly ignored everybody and already had his mind made up regardless of how they felt about it just made it that much worse, SP knew EXACTLY what they were doing with this, whether it had any impact on Kawaki or not is irrelevant, its the impact on the fandom that was the problem.

To put this into perspective I’ll give another quick example of another one of Honda’s ‘interpretations’ dividing the fandom when they otherwise shouldnt have been, in the episode where Kurama dies Naruto essentially says that he and Sasuke arent brothers and that Sasuke already has a great brother in Itachi, which completely contradicts what Kishimoto himself established for 15 fkin years, regardless the SNS fandom of course took that and ran with it as proof that Naruto and Sasuke arent brothers despite Kishimoto himself literally writing this from Narutos literal point of view how he sees Sasuke from beginning to now.

Naruto, from Kishimotos own words and writing, says blood ties dont matter and that there are stronger links than that, that love is all you need, that it doesnt matter if your family is real or fake as long as you CARE for them, so the fact that Honda’s words are given more validity than Kishimoto the creator himself is truly mind boggling but thats just how easily SP, Honda especially, can quickly and easily divide the fandom on certain subjects that have long been established for years by simply changing it on a whim and ppl just running with it.

So this situation with Sumire was no different, it didnt matter what was established in the manga, Honda rewrote otherwise and thats what ppl ran with, that was strike 1.

2 Biased news articles, thats right, after those episodes aired you even had journalists pushing the idea of the ship out there, implying that it was already being set in motion and making WAY more out of it than it actually was, it wasnt long before if you searched ‘Kawakis crush’ or ‘who does Kawaki like’ that would be the top result, which is something this fandom also use as evidence despite it being an unofficial source and entirely speculatory and opinion based, again the damage was already done, the seed was planted, thats all thats needed.

This CBR article says it all on its own, implying a love triangle that doesnt exist, claiming that Kawaki likes her and that shes his ‘light’ when neither such things have ever been confirmed by any official source nor shown anywhere in canon, despite that, this article paints this false picture of a love triangle that doesnt exist, at the moment there is simply one semi canon ship and that is BoruSumi, there is no love triangle confirmed at this point in time, Sumire is the only character whos feelings have been confirmed by official sources, nobody else.

3 Big youtubers and big twitter accs, youtubers especially, one in particular that REALLY kicked the ship into high gear was Naruto Explained, I shit you not, ppl actually took a youtubers words as law and evidence for why the ship is totally endgame, there were literal discussions being had that these ppl would bring up his videos as evidence, some random guy on youtube opinion is somehow a valid argument for the ship but not the manga itself or the many official sources that contradicts it.

He said he was gonna make videos for all the ships which he did but lets be real, he only made one video about InoSara and KawaSara while he made multiple videos about BoruSara and KawaSumi, there was an obvious agenda being pushed. Not assuming his ship preference because I dont know and I dont care, but its clear which fanbase he was pandering to, same goes for SP and Honda specifically.

These 3 things combined is what got the ship started, a key thing to note is that all 3 of these dont just push KawaSumi but push BoruSara as well, coincidence? I think not.

So whenever anyone tells you that ppl like/ship KawaSumi because its ‘obvious’ or that theres ‘chemistry’ or whatever other bs they claim between them that doesnt exist anywhere in canon, just know the only reason this ship is even known by ppl is because if got alot of biased support and push from high places, not because the ship itself was any good and ppl genuinely liked it for what it was, but because they were brainwashed into believing theres something there that really isnt.

KawaSara grew from a genuine like of the ship and the build up it got in the manga that drew ppl to it who genuinely liked what their relationship was and developing into, even without the Nue arc BoruSumi became semi canon in the manga first in chapter 19 when Sumire confessed, so with or without the anime BoruSumi had basis for fans to ship them since one side of it HAS confirmed romantic feelings for the other, neither KawaSara nor BoruSumi needed a boost from outside biased sources brainwashing them with lies, those ships thrived just fine with just what was established in the manga alone, the anime/novels was just a bonus, but the ships already had their own merits and basis on their own.

Of course I already know there will be ppl who’ll say Im just downplaying the ship cuz Im biased or jealous etc etc but really Im just tellin the truth, you cannot tell me at any point prior to 190-191 where KawaSumi had any significant amount of support, it was a crackship at most, it wasnt until the ripple effect from another one of Honda’s brilliant ‘interpretations’ that got this bullshit started and everything else just started falling into place from there. It was NOT because people actual saw a genuine appeal for the ship, but because of what they were lead to believe. 

If you look at the novels/manga its very apparent they are hinting BoruSumi and that they have a deep & special bond between them, Sumires love for Boruto is clear and visible, in the anime after 190-191 however they not only cut BOTH her confessions from the manga but they also make her feelings uncertain rather than being straightforward like the manga. 

If you look purely at how their relationship is in the manga its extremely distant, Kawaki gives no special treatment/care towards Sumire than he does anyone else, and Sumire gives no special treatment or care towards him than she does anyone else either, Kawaki is indifferent towards her and Sumire is just a kind and caring person concerned for someone she sees going through a hard time, theres nothing special or significant between them to justify ppl calling it the ‘obvious’ endgame already just for Sumire doing the bare minimum as his caretaker and Kawaki allowing her to because well, thats her job, she works with Katasuke and he allows him to work on him so why would he reject Sumire? again Im speaking manga only to make the point of the nonexistent basis for this ship. 

SP/Honda literally gave a horrible ship a false sense of weight that was so unnecessary that did way more harm than good for not just them but so many other characters by extension. They created a domino effect that fueled these few ppls fanon perceptions so much they perceive these ‘fanon’ interpretations as canon because big sources support it right? so it must be endgame, even the studios lowkey pushing for it so that must mean its canon. 

You may think its harmless ship teasing for now or that its no big deal but trust me, the same way SP had a huge influence on the perception of NaruSaku as the potential endgame ship and peoples reaction to it not happening, the same will happen with KawaSumi and BoruSara and I’d argue its gonna be worse this time around than in OG because back then atleast you could argue all the extra NS stuff was filler and non canon anyway, meanwhile you cant say the same for Boruto since its claimed to be ‘all’ canon even if it diverts from the manga/novels, so when and if their not endgame after all the bullshit false hope they were bein fed its gonna be hard to argue why they shouldnt be outraged, after all it WAS all canon so what was the point of all that if the endings something totally different? thats what happens when you divert off course from the source material and do your own thing based on your own ‘interpretations’ that contradict it, when the ACTUAL OFFICIAL canon happens ppl are left confused wondering how this happened when all this other stuff happened that seemed to be leading to somethin else. 

Even though objectively, personal bias aside, I see nothing that says BoruSara and KawaSumi are endgame and see far more in favor of BoruSumi and KawaSara becoming canon in the end, even if not KawaSara BoruSumi is definitely endgame atp based on whats been setup and established so far, even though I dont see anything to suggest Bsa and Ksu endgame I can understand WHY others get the impression that they are, its very clear their being pandered to and to be fair its understandable to a degree why’d they fall for it. Be that as it may, anyone taking a moment to look at everything objectively and critically would quickly see all the flaws and holes in these ships potential canonicity, KawaSumi especially. 

But unfortunately much of this fandom functions on whatever the biggest names say is right, doesnt matter if their an official source or not, if your someone big like a big youtuber, a big twitter acc, or a biased anime studio, then their right and everything and everyone else is wrong, which unfortunately means when the opposite happens they wont be able to accept it and claim there was some sort of foul play 🤦‍♀️ I’ve seen this happen many times...its always the same.

So no, Im not downplaying the ship out of bias, I dont even ship BoruSumi nor like Sumire, Im just calling it how I literally witnessed it all go down in real time. This ship is a friggin joke yet because of all that mess Honda and everything else after that caused it now has ppl believing in something THEY made up.

If you dont believe it just look at the arguments, whenever ppl talk of KawaSara they mostly speak of manga content, adding on anime content is just a bonus but most of KawaSaras development HAPPENED in the manga, however whenever ppl talk of KawaSumi they ALWAYS bring up 190-191, the only thing from the manga they bring up is Kawaki allowing her to give him a needle and calling her by name instead of class rep and Sumire just literally doing her job...couldnt make this up if I tried. Thats because most of KawaSumi’s ‘development’ happened in the anime, their relationship in the manga has been stagnant, it went from him rejecting her giving him a needle to accepting it, thats it, and Sumire is no more or less concerned for Kawaki now than she was when she first appeared with him, their just stagnant, meanwhile Kawaki has made significant progress with just about everyone BUT her. 

Warning: This post is obviously gonna be anti BoruSara so if your a fan of the ship I suggest you scroll past this and have a nice day, read it anyway then your just purposefully lookin for trouble which is a you problem not mine, you’ve been warned.

Since my other tweet seemed to ruffle quite a few feathers when it wasnt intended to, I figured why not make another controversial post to give ppl something to REALLY be mad about lol jk.

This is a controversial post though and one thats really uncomfortable but real, so incest warning for those of you who cant handle reading about the topic.

Anyway I think its time we talk about a topic that goes conveniently overlooked, understandably so because this isnt the kind of topic ppl wanna actively think about, but one that should be addressed if we’re going to be honest about the series then we have to acknowledge both the good and uncomfortable, which is the purpose of this post.

As the title says you read right, BoruSara is the most incestuous ship in Naruto, acknowledge it or not this is a fact and I’ll explain why.

The Uzumaki were descendants of Ashura, the Uchiha were descendants of Indra, and the Hyuuga were descendants of Hamura.

If we’re being 100% honest you have to use common sense here, for the Uchiha, Hyuuga, and Uzumaki/Senju clans to go on for literal centuries there HAD to be some level of inbreeding to keep the bloodline pure and keep their clans kekkei genkai in tact, as we’ve seen from descendants like Naruto and Tsunade the genes in Naruto get diluted very easily even at just half, Naruto didnt inherit Uzumaki chains nor as strong a life force as theirs, and Tsunade barely inherited anything from either side besides a strong life force. Keep in mind that Tsunade was a product of 2 inbred clans who were also distant relatives, the Uzumaki and the Senju, yet despite that she did not inherit any of their major kekkei genkai even with it only being cut in half I assume by whoever her parents were [unless they were also Senju and Uzumaki] regardless its clear that the passing of certain clan traits requires you to be at the very least in very close relation, not like a parent and child but between possibly siblings or cousins. 

So it should be clear that these clans did NOT survive for centuries with their clan genes strongly in tact without SOME level of inbreeding, this is an uncomfortable but true fact.

You see where Im going with this right? there should be no question that Hinata, Sasuke, and Naruto are all products of incest. Not saying their parents necessarily were related [obviously Minato and Kushina werent] but come on, for Kushina to be a pure Uzumaki, Sasuke a pure Uchiha, and Hinata a pure Hyuuga, they HAD to be inbred in some way, there would be no way that their clans kekkei genkai and genes would be in tact if they didnt.

So it should be clear now where this is going, yes, Boruto and Sarada are the most incestuous ship in Naruto, minus the inbreeding to preserve the clans, this is the most incestuous because it involves MULTIPLE families and MULTIPLE layers of incest across each clan involved.

You have the inbreeding from the Uchihas, the inbreeding from the Uzumaki, and the inbreeding from the Hyuuga, all packed together in one ship and god forbid their offspring.

Now I know what your thinking ‘Well wouldnt that apply to Naruto and Hinata too by that logic’ and my answer is yeah, it does, but by him being half Uzumaki Minatao’s genes greatly diluted the Uzumaki bloodline within him and even more so in Boruto and Himawari who are dominately Hyuuga. Yes Naruto and Hinata are technically distant relatives at the very least but like I said Minato cut that relation down by half, its really Hinata and Sasuke’s genes that are the most incestuous since their genes WERENT cut down by half, they are pure blood Uchiha and Hyuuga.

Disgusting to think about but it is what it is, its never directly brought up in words but its really not rocket science to put two and two together with what we’re presented.

So even if you argue Sasuke’s genes being cut by half and Hinata’s, it really doesnt make that much difference for they still have 3 inbred clans mixed between them and their children will be the product of 3 inbred families.

So yea, Naruto and Hinata are technically an incestuous ship but not as much thanks to Minato, however Boruto and Sarada are indeed the most incestuous in modern Naruto history being the only ship thats the product of 3 inbred clans.

Accept it or not but it is what it is, Kishi may have let it slide with Naruto and Hinata but I doubt he’s gonna let something like THIS slide. Their even closer in relation than Naruto and Hinata are in terms of ancestry and genetics.

If Im saying SS, NH, and NS are hypocrites, especially SS fans specifically who vehemently argue with SNS that their ship is incest and is completely platonic in nature, yet go on to ship their kids is nothing short of hypocrisy

The point which I shouldnt even have to spell out because it was clear as day, was to defend SNS who have been in some cases viciously attacked and ridiculed over shipping SNS and told even if it were a straight pairing they still wouldnt ship it only to then turn around and ship their kids together who are clearly the straight version of SNS is just ugly and Im ashamed to be associated with those same ppl.

I dont ship SNS but I used to until the reincarnated brothers reveal and now I simply cannot view the two romantically, that and the fact that Kishimoto based their bond on his and his own twin brother just makes the ship completely unacceptable in canon, but in an AU setting where their completely unrelated is fine but thats besides the point.

I and many others dont see SNS romantically in canon because it isnt, its proven time and time again, and I and many others also agree that regardless of if it was a gay or straight ship that we would not ship it because we stand by the belief that SNS is completely platonic regardless of gender. Hence why the mention of BoruSara.

But for those who did go back on their word? downright hypocrites idgaf how you feel about it but thats the truth, you cant call SNS incest and then ship their kids, you cant say shipping Kishimoto with his brother is weird and then ship their kids together, it just doesnt work that way, its either incest or it isnt, pick a side and stick to it.

As much as the SNS fandom gets on my nerves sometimes I will say their not lyin when they said if they were a straight pairing ppl would ship it/see it as romantic. Thats why Im glad theres a decent amount of ppl who are against BoruSara, because if you argued against that then this should be no different.

Sasuke literally described his feelings when watching Naruto as a kid as warm and fuzzy, Naruto said he was the first bond [besides Iruka] he ever had, they understood eachother, worked well together, looked out for eachother, cared deeply for eachother, were willing to die for eachother, and had one of the if not the strongest bond in the show.

And it was completely platonic, they were simply close friends, teammates, and family. Many of us in SS, NH, and even NS fandoms argued that for years and still argue it till this day because that is an irrefutable fact that isnt homophobic to point out, its literally spelled out in the manga and by Kishimoto himself in his own words that thats what they are.

When SNS fans used to say 'If Naruto or Sasuke were a girl then you would see it as romantic and ship it but only cuz its two dudes you dont' we all argued against that and said we wouldnt, which at the time I thought we all really meant that.

So seeing ppl from the SS, NS and NH fandoms jump on the BoruSara ship so fast and pushing it hella hard as the new SS or NH [which it clearly isnt and is parrelleled to SNS constantly] is truly mind boggling and hypocritical af, this coming from an SS shipper myself.

So as much as I hate to admit it but the SNS fandom was right, yall proved it, and to me any SS, NS, or NH stan who supports BoruSara has no right to say anything about SNS anymore, they were RIGHT.

Those of us who stood by what we said I commend them, but its really disheartening seeing so many ppl from our fandom who didnt.

And before anyone plays the 'Well its different though because their not reincarnated brothers like SNS is' yeah and? so in that case if they werent reincarnated brothers are you saying you'd perceive SNS as romantic then? because it wasnt until the end of the series that that was revealed to us and yall still argued their relationship was platonic so clearly thats a fkin lie.

'Well they called eachother family/brothers while Boruto and Sarada dont' again and? Naruto called Sakura part of his family too and he was inlove with her so why would this be any different? Sasuke too said he saw the shadow of his family in team 7 and he went on to fall inlove and marry Sakura so again whats your point? you still argued Naruto and Sasuke's feelings were romantic despite her being called their family but you vehemently argued against it being romantic between SNS because they referred to eachother as family.

Your hypocrites, plain and simple, you cant have it both ways, you cant say it was platonic with SNS but not with BoruSara with those excuses you know danm well didnt matter when you were arguing against them for SNS, but now its different for BoruSara? get outta here.

The creation of BoruSara revealed just how full of it alot of SNS antis are and just how right SNS fans really were. It's a shame really but yall put yourselves out there like this and I dont blame SNS for seein yall as fakes and hypocrites because you are.

This is why I really hope BoruSara crash and burns because that will be the final nail in the coffin and validate what SNS have been sayin all along which I really dont wanna see happen because it does send a horrible message, one that contradicts everything Kishimoto said and set up. I wont even be mad at SNS outrage if that happened because to be honest I'll be outraged right with them as we should be.

And lastly before anyone says it yes, I know Boruto and Sarada are their own characters and have their own relationship but anyone with eyes can see they are clearly heavily parrelleled to Naruto and Sasuke even down to pursuing their same danm dreams just reversed. You CANT deny the obvious.

“It doesnt matter, the manga is just a draft the anime is the true canon so disregard all that dumb manga stuff, the anime is getting rid of all the useless scenes and replacing them with better ones”

Yet now that their including multiple KawaSara moments that werent in the manga, suddenly now its just 

“Omg who cares? it doesnt matter enjoy your filler crumbs”

Karma’s a bitch, you dont get to say for months that we should disregard the manga because the anime is the true canon and the only scenes that matters, then when they start making scenes that YOU DONT LIKE that went against your “Lol SP is gonna remove all the KawaSara scenes and push BoruSara and KawaSumi watch” agenda, now you suddenly start calling it ‘filler crumbs that dont matter’

You get what you deserve, yes there were additional Bsa crumbs too but yall cant even enjoy em cuz your too busy being salty that KawaSara got a bunch of added crumbs you were so overconfident we werent gonna get because you were so sure the Studio, Mangaka, Writer, and Kishimoto, hated KawaSara and werent gonna develop them at all. Its your own fault for setting expectations for something you had no basis to from the get go, Kawaki and Sarada are canonically friends/comrades and that hasnt changed even after chapter 58 where they had that brief scuffle where it was said by Kawaki himself he had no intention of hurting her and Boruto who says their all friends.