I'm 34, a cat mom, and I love video games, books, and anime.
My current hyperfixation is Love and Deepspace. Sylus is my main, but I am also a big fan of the (un)holy trinity.
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I seriously don't understand the people who made this happen. Are we even playing the same game?? Are we???
If you've ever dived into the lore you'd see how OBVIOUS it was that a 6th li would be there. VALKO WAS ALWAYS FUCKING GOING TO BE THERE. but we'd never be able to connect those open ends now would we? Because we're not getting him.
and i get it. Maybe you're not a lore nerd. But still???? Did y'all never fucking see the "Coming soon" written after Caleb????? DID YOU SERIOUSLY NOT???? WHAT DID YOU FUCKING THINK IT WAS FOR??????? THE DEVS NEVER FUCKED AROUND ABOUT IT???? HOW DID YOU NOT EXPECT IT????
And if you look at the timelines of the difference in Sylus's and caleb's release, it was about damn time we'd fully well expected that 6th LI who was supposedly coming soon.
Why throw away all that. Why make Valko the scapegoat. WHY?
I thought we could deal with controversy like grown adults in here?
Just watched Gacha Goblin's vid on today's events and I am floored to find out a large portion of CN players don't realize how deep and intense the lore is? That they may not engage with any game content that isn't related to their main?? What do you mean you didn't realize how all of the LI's lore is intricately tied together??
Actionable Ideas for Challenging Infold Over Valko's Release (Updated!)
A lot of LADS fans are really upset over Infold's decision to shelve Valko. This is my attempt at creating action items for fans wanting to do something but are unsure where to start.
Here are some methods for giving Infold feedback:
Sign this petition and this petition
Reply to their posts on X (Twitter)
Comment on their Instagram posts and unfollow them
Comment on their Facebook posts and unfollow them
Comment on their YouTube videos and unfollow them
Comment on their XHS/RedNote posts and unfollow them
Join their official Discord Server and voice your dissatisfaction
Leave a 1-star review on the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store
Complete the survey in the Love and Deepspace app by selecting the box/pencil icon in the top right corner of the home screen
"Suggest" Valko's release in the Love and Deepspace app by going to Settings > More > Support, then select "Suggestion"
(If you want to be slightly passive-aggressive) On 9 July, go to Settings > More > Support, then select "Bug Report" and fill out the report stating that the promised Valko content is missing
Uninstall the LADS app after sending feedback, unless you want to continue using Support as another place to give repeated feedback
Remember: if we want Infold to listen to us, we MUST remain persistent, civil, and demonstrate our affection for the game. I highly doubt they will be intimidated by non-CN players, which means we are held to a different standard. What is effective for them will not be effective for us.
With that said, remember these do's and dont's:
Do vary your written feedback. Making each piece of feedback you give at least slightly different, particularly in emails, will ensure your thoughts are not filtered out.
Do repeatedly submit/post/send your feedback over the next few weeks. Email them today, in a few days, on 9 July, and in the weeks after. Post on their social media every day. Overwhelm them and show them this isn't going to go away over a few free Wishes.
Do prepare to CONTINUE submitting/posting/sending your feedback over the next few months. Infold needs to see that we won't let this issue go. Schedule emails to be sent to them over the next 3 months. Draft X posts today and copy and paste them to post in a few months time. Draft your long-form in-app feedback in preperation for the update and the upcoming banners. Create reminders to check and comment on their posts weekly. Don't let them get comfortable. Be a dog with a bone (lol).
Do maintain a polite tone in your feedback (even when you are issuing a threat like leaving the game).
Do specify your current disappointments, long-term criticisms, and expectations for the future of the game should you continue to play. For example, don't just say you want more Main Story updates; specify that you want them every three months.
Do clearly isolate your long-term issues with the game from the current issue of Valko's release. Make it clear that those issues are not resolved by delaying or permanently canceling Valko's debut.
Do talk positively about whatever you can (ie. enjoying other LIs, enjoying the content of the Main Story itself, appreciating the worldbuilding, etc). This may feel difficult, but it demonstrates that you are a passionate player. Infold can assume that a player so invested in the game would need something drastic to push them to leave.
Don't use profanity.
Don't reference CN players.
Don't bring up Infold's past mistakes. We need to stay focused on the current issues.
Don't criticize anything about Valko's teased content. This one may be unpopular, I know. If Infold is pulling back Valko's release, I don't think it's likely that they will be willing to invest any more time and money into his development. If they continue to get more and more criticisms about him and don't care to change anything about him, they will never release him. I'm not minimizing any fan's concerns; I'm suggesting we choose a priority.
If you are unsure where to start, here are some talking points:
Express your excitement over Valko (bonus points if you give reasons why). Did you come back from a long hiatus for him?
Express your disappointment over not having Valko in the game. How will it impact your enjoyment of the game?
Describe how you prepared for his anticipated arrival.
β’ In-game (farm for dias, bought packs, etc)
β’ On your devices (created storage space, bought a new device, etc)
β’ Financially (budgeted for buying packs upon his release, etc)
Describe how you engaged in fandom around Valko. Did you create fanart, fanfiction, or other fanworks? How much were you consuming fanworks showcasing him? Demonstrating how beloved he was before any real content of his being released indicates a warm reception if/when he is released.
What are the current issues you experience with the game? Be specific. Describe exactly how they impact your gameplay. Suggest a concrete way those issues could be resolved. Assert that Valko's release being postponed or canceled will not resolve these issues.
Express concern for the changes to their planned story arc his absence would create. Question if those changes would be as enjoyable as their original plan.
(If you're feeling up to it) Acknowledge the amount of time, effort, and money that must have gone into creating Valko. Let them know it would disappoint you to see it go to waste.
Infold made a terrible decision. We need to take action and let Infold know that a large portion of the LADS fanbase wants Valko to be released at some point. Let's try to remain positive where we can, engage in positive fandom, and do our best to make our voices heard by Infold.
Thanks to @shivasdarknight, @adehsroyal, and @alyxzenia for their contributions!
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I just realized. We wonβt even be able to celebrate his birthday because they never released when his birthday is. Oh my gosh I canβt take this anymore
I think we should celebrate him on July 9th! It would have been his birthdate if you think about it </333
Subject: Global Community Feedback Regarding Valko and Future Development
Dear Love and Deepspace Team,
Thank you for taking responsibility and sharing your recent statement with the community. We appreciate your transparency and the dedication your team has shown throughout the development of Love and Deepspace.
As a member of the global community, I would like to respectfully express my disappointment regarding the decision to permanently remove Valko from future development.
This is not a message written against any community or culture. Every region has its own perspectives, and every player's voice deserves respect. However, as global players, we also hope our voices can be considered when decisions affect the future of a game that we equally support.
Many of us spend our time, money, creativity, and emotional investment on Love and Deepspace. We create fan art, translations, events, videos, and communities that help this game grow around the world. We hope our opinions can also play a meaningful role in important decisions.
We sincerely believe Valko should not be permanently discarded.
Every love interest represents different personalities, emotional experiences, and player preferences. New characters allow more people to feel represented and welcomed into the game. Valko may have become that character for many current and future global players, but we will never know if he is removed before we even have the opportunity to meet him.
We also deeply respect the tremendous amount of work your artists, writers, designers, voice actors, programmers, and the entire development team have already invested in creating him. It would be heartbreaking to see all of that creative effort disappear completely.
Therefore, we respectfully ask that Valko be released on the Global Server instead of being permanently removed. We believe global players deserve the opportunity to experience this character and form their own opinions.
In addition, we kindly ask for a clear and transparent development roadmap that includes:
- A realistic content calendar and timeline.
- Balanced Main Story updates for all existing love interests.
- More meaningful Hunter-focused story content.
- Clear communication regarding future development plans.
- Greater consideration of feedback from both the Chinese and global communities before major irreversible decisions are made.
We are not asking for conflict or division between communities.
We are asking for equal consideration.
Love and Deepspace is a global game, and we hope its future can reflect the diversity of the players who love and support it around the world.
Thank you for taking the time to read our feedback. We truly hope you will consider the voices of your global community as you move forward.
"I paid money into this game, and I didn't want a new LI." and "I paid money into this game, and I'm excited for a new LI."
Both of these statements are true and valid. One does not hold more weight than the other, but you can't make everyone happy. There will always be someone who doesn't like something, but I think the crux of the issue is just the severe lack of communication from Infold.
Valko was probably in development for a hot minute, this wasn't "out of nowhere", but I can understand how it feels that way because Infold wasn't dropping as many hints and clues as they did with Sylus and Caleb. There are a lot of little mysterious details in the main story that hadn't really been addressed or directly tied to an already existing LI, and that is something that makes the story so fun and interesting to me. The fact that they don't reveal everything at once. That they try to switch things up on us so we never know what's coming.
The other issues with the game that many players have been vocal about really should have been more directly addressed. The recent posts from Infold is the most clear and direct engagement with the player base I have ever seen. So why couldn't they do that with anything else?
I fear going forward everything will feel different. I think this whole situation has sewn too much distrust and discontent with a lot of players and unfortunately I think this may be the start of their downfall.
No way did they cancel Valko because of a few toxic ass players who wanted him gone. That was NOT the majority of player's concerns. It was fixing your piss poor scheduling and time management. Now people who love the fucking character are going to leave. Dumbass fucking company, holy shit.
I'm so sorry to Valko fans. I hope they reverse this decision, but you have every right to uninstall the game.
As for the toxic ass people who wished for this, fuck you. You're the reason why fandom space isn't what it used to be anymore. You're the reason why people can't enjoy things. You're the stupid fucks supporting censorship of fiction and I hope you realize what a terrible fucking being you are and fix it.
I'm sorry for being so angry but this is bullshit. And the fact that they made a stupid little hashtag is even more ridiculous.
Valko's canceled? Well Infold's canceled. Fuck you.
There were legitimate complaints from CN and Global players. Concerns that are 100% valid, but this should not have happened this way. Even if they had said they were postponing him, I think that would have been more understandable than flat out canceling everything. What a slap in the face to all of the writers, animators, developers, VAs, and other people that were involved with all of his content that was ready to go. This was probably in the works for at least the last year, probably longer! What a fucking waste.
everyone knew there was going to be a 6th li, there HAD to be. There's 6 stella's, the coming soon was still there, the writing WAS ON THE FUCKING WALL!!!! Like this literally just fucks up absolutely everything. I'm irritated as fuck.
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Due to the recent news of infold canceling Valko, I have created a petition to release Valko to Western Countries only. Please sign this because this is literally our only chance at saving him now. I beg you you to BE VOCAL so you can be seen. Our love for Valko matters!!!
wow. i'm so fucking speechless. so instead of FIXING all of your fucking in-game problems players have been crying to you for months, you decide to just cancel Valko. a character YOU created and put so much money into. JUST LIKE THAT???
i hope this company rots in hell. goes bankrupt. PULL YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER MAN. i'm so fucking disappointed, gen thinking of leaving the game. you won't EVER get a crumb of my money ever again, fuck you!
what even is the point in getting everyone excited over Valko, just to go around and cancel him and NEVER releasing him ever??? you could've just delay him instead and GIVE US the missing content.
honestly, if a boycott, refund requests, and people uninstalling are what got us here in the first place, then i think those of us who were genuinely excited for valko should be just as loud.
because why are we expected to sit quietly and be grateful for crumbs when we were teased an entire character, got invested, got excited, and then were told to simply move on?
no, actually.
if people can make noise when they dislike something, then people are allowed to make noise when something they did want gets taken away too.
i wanted the wolfboy. i was ready for the wolfboy. i had already made room in my little morally questionable heart for the wolfboy.
so yes. refund, uninstall, boycott, howl at the moon, whatever feels right. but donβt let them think no one wanted him.
I am so upset. I can't believe a company would invest in a new character like this then just roll over cuz toxic players threw a tantrum. I may reconsider my investment in this game π
Sylus and Valko being leaders of their own business in one way or another a form of CEOs, both filthy rich, both wanting you, spoiling you with gifts, one was a vampire the other is a werewolf. Yeah I think sylus x mc x value can work in many astonishing ways
Size and Volume both being rich and having a thing for gift giving?? Scotch and Vodka both obsessed with spoiling you and seeing you wear and use the gifts they spoil you with?? Salt and Vinegar both having the best, richest laughs seeing you pout and get all bratty?
Plus being a vampire and a werewolf?? I saw someone on twitter say that their ship name shouldn't be CrowWolf and that it should be Twilight and I wholeheartedly agree. Love me some Saturn and Venus.
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