popular tf2 artist @/qqqkrolek truyerabi is disgusting and proship
Huge trigger warning: Sexual Assault and incest
I don't support harassment or bullying I'm just sick of seeing so much support towards this artist when they draw nasty eroguro incest and post it in the public domain
These drawings can be found freely available on their art telegram channel (as always the nastiest things happen on telegram) I just want to keep people informed about who they're following and supporting
These aren't all their drawings, some of them I chose not to show willingly because they're too fucked up and disgusting (They drew a spy having sexual intercourse over a scout's open abdomen as a collab with another artist @/wormizette)
I'm not going to debate the topic of artistic freedom. it's not about that right now, even if there is a place for this kind of cursed art, it shouldn't be encouraged in the larger community
(What kind of art can we talk about in a drawing of a scout in a bunny suit being lured by his own father anyway)
It's your choice to continue to support this person's art or not. I just want to keep people informed
(Because this incestuous genius chooses to leave such shit only in Telegram knowing full well that only there they will find support from the same equally fucked up and disgusting people. In Tumblr they post only the most adequate thing haha)
I encourage you to reblog this post and spread awareness
Oh man I liked both of these artists.
Generally I'm not about calling out people and I like to not dunk my head in the drama, but like.... I dunno, it REALLY rubs me the wrong way that this person is hiding all this gross content and not outright declaring what they are.
Whether they are a survivor or not, other survivors could be incredibly uncomfortable or even triggered by the fact that they post this shit on Telegram. I feel uncomfortable with it, if you're gonna be nasty don't try to pass off your gross stuff as "normal" and don't try to insert yourself in spaces where it could lead to harm. Even if their stuff seems "normal" (like that baby Scout drawing), it still feels repulsive knowing what this person posts on Telegram.
This is telegram, bro, people post much worse things on telegram. I am against the canceling of Truyerabi because I am against any cancelling. Yes, she draws disgusting works, yes, this is very shocking content. But it was and will always be on the Internet. For someone, this is a reassurance and it is wrong to take away your reassurance from a person. If you doesn't like what a person draws, just fucking block them.
I am against the Truyerabi cancelling and I would like you not to spread this, because she is my compatriot and I know that in her works there is nothing but creativity. Strange, shocking, but it is simply her creativity. Because again, this was and will be on the Internet, and it is wrong to bully a person for this. People literally wished death on her and her subscribers, so you understand. I think this is much worse than a gore art.
Like, I'm not saying she's right or her art isn't disturbing or she doesn't draw the wrong things. That's all true. Incest are bad. But I just want you to not spread this because people are literally turning this into bullying instead of "protecting those who might get hurt".
I translated something for you, after which it became clear to me that this was simply bullying of a girl who had barely turned 18.
Untranslated version to make sure I didn't make up the last comment. (I blurred it out so the text was readable)
It would be weird to draw something like this and not expect an emotional reaction from people. Especially when they're fandom characters. Art shouldn't be restrictive it's true, but I think this rule shouldn't apply to works/media where creator themself didn't reveal such dark themes. If you really see art in a drawing of a spy molesting his son then I have questions for you but well okay that's your opinion you're entitled to it. People aren't happy and I'm not happy for the very simple reason that these are our favorite characters. If they were original characters, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But let's be honest and real for a second. The author themself wanted this reaction and that's the whole reason they draw something like this. If they wanted to say something through their drawings they wouldn't have used fandom characters. This post is just a consequence of their actions that would hardly even affect them. If things really get out of hand, I'll delete the post
You're giving too much weight to this. There are no rules about who should draw what. If a person wants to draw something like that, they has the right to do so, but your task, since it upsets you so much, is to close the artist’s blog and block them, and not push people to bully them. And what does it mean "when everything gets out of hand I will delete the post"? And when will this "everything got out of hand" come? When will she commit suicide? What is "out of hand" for you? This is wrong from the start, it is none of your business what a person draws. She publishes it on a closed platform so that people who are not interested or disgusted by it cannot see it and get upset.
It's your fault if you went into someone else's telegram and despite the warnings (and on that art with the spy and the scouts guts there were TW and CW, for a minute. Also the art was under the spoiler) opened the image and, oh horror, saw shocking content in Telegram!! This is telegram, do you even know what they publish there? Do you know what is different about this messenger? There's almost no fucking moderation. You shouldn't stick your nose into something what will harm you and then be surprised by it.
In general, you are wrong, you should not trying to cancel someone like her, because now the girl is being bombarded with hatred and threats, wishes for death, and you are contributing to this. Do you think this is more correct than the drawings? In the end, these are just fictional characters, and you, in turn, are threatening a real living person, or at least contributing to this.
I think the one who's putting too much weight on all this is you. Don't turn this around. I know me saying "I don't support bullying please don't do it" won't make a difference but still. This is not a "cancel" post I'm just bringing to the surface what this artist is doing. The Telegram channel is not closed or private with 2,000 people on it. If these were really personal drawings for herself, she wouldn't have posted them anywhere. I'm tired of your argument that anyone can draw whatever they want. I really didn't want to mention it, but in that case do you support loli/shota content too? I don't understand your vehement defense of this artist. You make it sound as if after this post she was bombarded with a hundred death wishes when there are plenty of reasonable people in the comments and reblogs who just blocked her and expressed their disgust without attacking her personally. Again if you are a weirdo be prepared for people to say to your face that you are a weirdo. If you love your filthy filthy business so much you shouldn't care.Now it sounds like it's not us who are the "sensitive softies here" but you, since you're not even willing to tolerate people expressing their appropriate reactions to your shit.
Aww you are so aggressive :3
You are so aggressive in defending your point of view, although in the end you are the one who published the works on tumblr, triggering all this people. You created a clean account to "show what bad things a person does!!!" And who asked you to do this? Who asked you to get this from where these people would not get it and would not see it. It's like finding child porn and posting it UNCENSORED for everyone to see, like, look at this bad thing I found!!! You are behaving like an immature child who saw shocking content and now is simply offended by the author. Your actions are immature. Please read the two posts that the author wrote and understand that what you are doing is much worse than what she is drawing.
And thanks for getting personal, that would definitely make you right!!!
Why do you expect respect when you don't show it yourself in the first place? I'm not going to coddle a person who just said "oh you're wrong" and now calls me immature. I was willing to cooperate if real people's feelings were actually affected by saying "if things really get out of hand I will delete the post", but all I see is just a person who can't stand to have an opinion expressed on the internet. I already told you that I didn't take the author's personality (although I should have considering she supports genocide) I gave you counterarguments that art can and should be unrestricted with some conditions, but all you can give me is "oh you're wrong and you're immature". You have no adequate arguments left and now you're just going to turn this conversation into a mutual shit-tossing session. Well done I guess
Are you offended that I called you a weirdo? What other explanation is there for your behavior if you're not the same mindset as an artist?
Bro, I'm not asking you for respect, but I'm asking you to maintain an adequate and calm dialogue, but you're the first one to get personal. Read my messages again, because you don't see my arguments, apparently. I have given them enough.
Where did you get the idea that the person supports genocide? What does all this have to do with it? The author said that his work is vent art and that he gets rid of negative emotions in this way. He himself said it in his post on telegram which I asked you to read but you ignored it. Okay bro, then I'll retell it. The author draws this not because he supports it, he finds it just as disgusting, that's why he draws it to get rid of negative emotions. The scout in these works is never happy with what is happening, isn't this a sign that in this work there is no romanticization of incest and other things?
You also completely ignored my question about why you posted this in the first place, taking out shocking content and posting it on tumblr to people who are clearly too sensitive for it. For what purpose? "share this so you know who you support" Bro, people who follow the author's work know perfectly well what she draws and they won't be surprised, and people who aren't ready for this will simply be upset or triggered. So you're the one who caused the most inconvenience by taking shit out of the toilet to prove it was there.
And don't tell me that I'm taking this to "shot-throwing conversation", you're the first one to get personal, that's the first thing, you're completely ignoring my arguments regarding the author and the current situation - the second thing. You dedicated your last post to blaming me for saying what I thought about you and completely ignoring everything else. You yourself want to argue about personalities, don't you? If you weren't interested, you would pay attention to the discussion about the artist, but you don't 🤷🤷
Okay, let me get this straight from the beginning and repeat it for the hundredth time.
I didn't ignore your question I thought the purpose of my post was clear as day. This is not a "cancel" post it's a post bringing to light what this author is doing in the shadows. You asked why you are pulling personal stuff out of other people's space? I answered because it's no longer personal space since it's on the author's open platform where many people sit. If a person is not afraid to publish such content on one wide platform, then they should not be afraid to publish the same content elsewhere. But they didn't for the obvious reason, "people won't like it" and they're right. In my opinion it seems hypocritical to censor your own art just to appear more "appealing" to others.The problem and issue isn't whether or not they're doing it to support what's happening in the drawing in real life. The problem is that it's disgusting. You said it yourself and the author himself realizes it. Why does that deny me the right to say outright that it's disgusting? It's not bullying, to quote you it's just "pointing at shit knowing full well it's shit". Everyone has their own way of reflecting on trauma, dealing with emotions, I know that. I've told you loud and clear why I see a problem with this. The problem is that these are not your own puppets but characters in media that doesn't belong to you. If this person feels so connected to them that they want to reflect on them something as personal and intimate as negative emotions, then why are you surprised that I can do the same? People feel attached to these characters and it makes someone disgusted that someone would attribute something so vile and sick to them. For that reason, art has to have boundaries so that the feelings of real people are not touched. People don't choose what emotional reaction to have to someone else's drawing, someone may get closer to the author and find themselves, and someone else may have unpleasant memories from a traumatized past come back.
I could ask, if it's vent art why is it drawn in a non-serious manner? I understand everyone has a different way of dealing with trauma but this way just makes the viewer turn away and not take their problem seriously. But I fully know the reason, because it's not their goal to get compassion. They drew it just to survive the emotions without expecting a response. I only have one question remain, then why do you feel the need to publish it? I have a high regard for art, and apparently you do too, since you're so protective of the artist's freedom, but how do you know that the author has the same high regard for it as you do? Just because a person has the skills to draw something immoral doesn't automatically give them all rights to draw immoral. It's out of choice and they have all rights to make that choice. And I can fully judge you for making that choice. I don't see any artistic value in art where scout in bunny suit is being lured by his father. For the reason that I think highly of an art
The screenshot you sent is not about the author whose feelings you are so protective of. I condemn that person's words as much as you do but it wasn't my post that made them say that. As you said before "it's telegram you can find much worse things on there" didn't you? Then why are you so surprised?
I don't want to go into why I should have gotten personal with the author because that would start another debate where we'd both say we're ignoring each other's arguments. I'll just say that this is about REAL people, not "just characters" anymore
I have not received direct evidence that I started a campaign of hate and daily death wishes towards the author. I have no control over tying people to my moral principles what they call the author's work "nasty" and "wrong" is their emotional reaction. Please note that this is not bullying or an attempt to remove a person from the platform. They still have an audience in the form of loyal you and others and they still have all the freedom to draw what they want and pour their emotions into drawings. All I did was pour it out into the light because I confidently consider this person a weirdo. On behalf of someone who used to be a fan. I didn't take away anyone's choice to continue to support this artist. I think it's important to know about other aspects of a person's work in order to make that very choice. If there's anything else you don't understand, DM me. Let's stop this long ass thread
