It just occurred to me that Sochi AU Shane and Ilya are probably Time "Person of the Year" for 2015. They are #1/2 on every other list (Peoples most beautiful, every buzzfeed listicle...they're probably nominated for a Nobel Peace prize...)
I canāt remember who said it but someone pointed this out in the comments of one of my Sochi outing posts and the thing is that I fully agree Hollanov is very much winning Timeās Person of the Year after being this fucking historically dramatic and gay on main but I think they win it in 2014, in the wake of their rescue from the Olympics. At that point, theyāve enraptured the world with their love story at the Olympics, Ilyaās won the Stanley Cup, thereās rumors of their Sochi photos being contenders for the Pulitzer, and Shaneās launched a historic run with a team that includes three openly gay players and the NHLās first woman to ever play in a regular season game. Like. 2014 is a hell of a fucking year for Hollanov. I think they win it in 2014.
But the thing about writing something so heavily based in reality is that when in write something like this I have to be like āmove OVER Ebola fighters, gay boys are COMING THROUGHā itās just. AU where there was no Ebola outbreak in 2014 because emotionally I canāt bear it
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Had the hilarious fkn idea of the metros in the sochi au calling hayden their token minority because he's the only one left who's (to their knowledge) cishet and white
bahahahahahaha meanwhile poor fucking peter landryās also there, cishet and white but so fucking shanesexual on main that no one believes him. uhhh yeah he did tell a reporter that if Shane Hollander ever made a pass at him he would consider it the honor of his goddamn life but he doesnāt think thatās happening ācause Rozanovās got the dude pretty locked down. what was he supposed to do, lie?
Okay, I have to know if the Baby Jessica bit is an actual meme in the Sochi Outing AU. Are people in universe saying that Shane got Baby Jessica'd. Does Shane know people are saying that about him? Does Shane even know who Baby Jessica even is? Would he feel like people are taking away the considerable amount of agency he had in that situation? Because Baby Jessica did not participate in her own rescue. Shane may have made his own rescue more difficult for his rescuers but he took the action to get the outcome he wanted.
I wasnāt personally planning for it to be an in universe meme. I can see some people drawing the comparison but Iām not sure how many would. The reason why itās so useful for me is because itās evocative of the level of global attention that the incident has garnered. But Iām not sure if the internet in universe would make the same connection. I didnāt personally see those comparisons during the Titan submersible search even though I would consider it even more comparable to Baby Jessica than Shane and Ilya being trapped in Sochi.
If I used it as an in universe meme, it would be as a source of dramatic irony. Just like you said, Shane is very active in his own fate in Sochi. He is not a toddler upside down in a pipe. Itād be painful ironic if the world decided to treat him like that anyway.
That being said, Iām not sure if they would. Shane Hollander is kind of The Moment in Sochi. He is globally inspiring in part because he isnāt passive. His moments of action are what enrapture the world. He runs to save Ilya. He refuses to get in the car without him. He gets back on the ice after heās attacked. The world looks at him and sees someone who was facing up against a very angry world power and decided to fucking swing. I think trying to draw a baby Jessica comparison in universe would undermine the point of Sochi. Itās a moment where Shane is celebrated as someone who is strong and passionate and unstoppable. He makes Russia flinch first. And that is going to emphasize the loss he suffers when he comes home to rejection. To show a reversal of fortunes, his fortune needs to be good before itās bad.
And the fortune Iām specifically reversing is centered around his career. Like. Shaneās fortune is so goddamn bad as like, a broad overview in Sochi. He has never been so stressed out in his goddamn life. He may die in Russian prison.
But he is respected as a player and as a person. Heās inspiring. His team (eventually) rallies behind him and he delivers one of the greatest comebacks in hockey history. For just one moment, the entire world is cheering for Shane Hollander. Insofar as career and public perception, his fortune is very fair.
And then he returns to a team that will not work with him. He doesnāt even make the playoffs. People are online claiming he betrayed his country by leaving the Olympics early. Theyāre saying that the Metros are failing under him. And he closes out that season with the internet laughing that he just delivered the Raiders comeback by sinking to his knees in their locker room. His fortune changes.
I think making the baby Jessica a meme during Sochi would ultimately undermine what the purpose of the Sochi arc is. I think that jokes just going to stay on this tumblr
"Awesome. Ilya can do it" is my reaction to SO much shit I see from this fandom.
"The second line isn't a demotion" "Awesome. Ilya can do it"
"It doesn't matter who holds the captain title since they're equals who have equal say" "Awesome. Give Shane the title then"
"It doesn't matter how much they're being paid since it's all going to the same household" "Awesome. Ilya can take the paycut"
"If they want to be on the same team, one of them needs to move" "Awesome. Ilya can go to montreal"
Anyway I hope everyone keeps the long game haterism coming. I follow like 3 blogs for this fandom because my requirement is that you have to absolutely hate the long game and the way Shane is treated before I click the follow button so like I'm loving your blog lol
Yeah itās really the disparity in how Shane and Ilya are treated both in the fandom and in the narrative itself that exposes the fact that Shaneās position is very much worsened in the long game. Every single one of his losses are treated as not a big deal for Shane but unthinkable for Ilya.
The biggest textual evidence is in the move and paycut. Ilya expressly contemplates moving to Montreal for Shane at a paycut and immediately rejects it as unthinkable because he doesnāt want the paycut. But when itās Shane, the idea is quite literally laughed off as a joke. Why would he worry about being paid his worth? He has a rich husband who will take care of him.
So many people insist that itās not a demotion to have Shane on the second line. Awesome. Why shouldnāt Ilya be on it then? If itās not a big deal for Shane, itās not a big deal for Ilya.
Losing his captaincy is another big thing. You could make them equals on the team so easily. At the very least give Shane an A. There is absolutely no reason why he shouldnāt have gotten an A. He is the most qualified person on the team three times over. It is incredibly common to still give players that are new to a team the A if they are veteran star players, and Shane is both. Why the fuck would he not have an A. The only thing not giving him an A does is cue him up for a mean joke about how he was demoted.
Ilya straight up tells him at the end of the long game to not even think about being captain because itās staying with him. And itās once again being posited as a joke, but itās a cruel joke in the context.
And while they canāt actually be co-captains, thereās only 1 C on the ice at a time, they could get very close. The Minnesota Wild spent 9 years rotating their captain every month. The Boston Bruins had two players serve as effective co-captains by giving one the C during away games and swapping it to the other during home games. Thereās precedent for respecting two players as leaders in the team this way. But the long game goes out of its way to disrespect Shane. He is outright laughed at for not having a leadership role. Itās so fucking cruel.
We need to end this fiction that Shane was a bad captain. That is directly contrary to the textual evidence. He led his team to three goddamn Stanley Cups. That man is the most qualified one on the Centaursā roster and somehow his happy ending is to be underpaid and overlooked for positions he is absolutely qualified for, because what implications could that possibly have for an Asian wifey man. At least give him the goddamn A.
If Shaneās ending isnāt degrading in some way, then awesome, Ilya can do it. Shane is the one who had to have his reputation be fucking shredded. Ilya can take one goddamn hit
reading your tlg posts is like a breath of fresh air, I feel like I lose a year off my life any time I see people talking about shane in that book omg. like he is living his actual worst nightmare, every bad thing he thinks will happen from his coming out and being openly with ilya happens to him, and yet the book is so uninterested in exploring literally any of that at all. I personally am a lover of putting characters into the torment nexus before bandaging their torment nexus wounds so Iām like why the hell arenāt we seeing shaneās torment nexus or, more importantly, shane getting OUT of the torment nexus??? tlg is like a horror novel for shane heās just straight up suffering from basically every angle even through the āhappy endingā
People who read my fics know I LOVE the torment nexus. I force all of my characters into the torment nexus. A sign that you are my favorite character is if I have crammed you in a jar and started to shake.
But I will never pretend that the torment nexus is anything other than the torment nexus. Iām not going to sit there and say āno heās happy in the torment nexus. Heās gotten over being sad that he lives in the torment nexus now. Itās where he wants to be. He doesnāt mind it here actually. His big strong husband fucked him better and now heās so so happy living hereā WHO WOULD NOT MIND IT IN THE TORMENT NEXUS
Every single one of Shaneās fears come true in the most personally devastating way possible and he never gets out of it. It is his happy ending actually. Everyone fucking clap.
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The only explanation for why Shaneās city turns against him must be that the HR universe takes place in a timeline where no gay people live in Montreal. At all. Itās the only explanation. How else are we not seeing the gay Canadian city throw parades in Shaneās honor for making the city even more gay.
(Raises handā¦I would also like for Shane to be given a gun)
shane gets so many goddamn guns
And I fully agree. Like. I really do admire the city of Montreal. I donāt think itās a perfect city (I donāt think any city is a perfect city) but I have so much admiration for what they did for queer rights. Like. Again, they rioted so hard for queer rights that Quebec became the first major jurisdiction to ban discrimination based on sexual orientation on the entire planet. Itās been banned there since fucking 1977.
Iāve said this already but I think thereās something in poor taste about farming the culture of a historically queer city for gay smut, excising its gayness, and being like āyeah these guys did NOT back their previously beloved queer captain. They were just part of the mob that pushed him the fuck out, actually.ā Like. You kept the fact that itās a hockey-obsessed city, youāre a self-professed Habs fan whoās been to the games so I know itās not that you donāt know anything about the city like. Excluding the gayness is a choice. Why. Why did you make it. I just think it was in poor taste.
hi syn! love the anti tlg posts yayy i really agree so hard about how it feels like being gaslit by an entire fandom. regarding hollanov playing on the same team, i have a question for you as someone who knows way more about hockey than i do!! i totally agree putting them on different lines is very unsatisfying for a lot of reasons, but what about the all stars 2017 setup (move one of them to the other's wing)? how realistic and feasible would that be? or would it still be a downgrade for whichever takes the move bc it's not his usual position?
Generally no, but it kind of depends on how you look at it.
Itās not unheard of for players to change positions. Hall of Fame player Sergei Federov switched from center to defense. Claude Giroux went from center and right winger and he did that switch as the captain for the Flyers. Like itās rare to change positions but it very much does happen, and Iāve never seen it be perceived as a mark against the player who makes the switch. Like, it usually means that thereās a weakness on the team that theyāre trying to account for and that the player who made the move is skilled enough to succeed in both positions.
That being said, center is typically perceived as the position that is more difficult and controls more of the play.
To be clear, being center does not mean that you are the teamās best player. Quinn Hughes is widely considered to be one of the best players on the planet and heās not even a forward, let alone the center. Being center is not per se considered an indication of a playerās of skill level. It just means that youāre playing a role that is generally considered to be more demanding and in control of more of the play. That being said, there are plenty of teams that have wingers (the position Ilya plays in the All Star game) as their best player, with a big example being my favorite player, Jason Robertson. I personally think heās the best player on the Stars and he plays left winger. So moving one or the other of them to winger wouldnāt be publicly viewed as a downgrade, and it wouldnāt be a downgrade to their game play as long as they were happy and fulfilled and successful in that position.
To be clear, itās not unheard of to have a top of the line player on second line.
The first line is traditionally comprised of the best offensive players on the team. But sometimes you put a top offensive player on the second line for more depth. The other team doesnāt get as much of a break and the scoring happens more regularly. It can be strategic and usually happens if youāve got two top tier players who play the same position.
That being said, I do personally think putting Shane on second line is still a downgrade to his career, especially on a team like the Centaurs.
The second line is traditionally comprised of worse players, and hockey is very much a team sport. The Centaurs are doing better by the end of the long game but theyāre still struggling. Shane is going to go from being the first line of the best team in the division to being linemates with some of the worse players of one of the worst teams in the division, including most likely Tanner Dillon, who gets demoted from first line and replaced by Troy Barrett for fucking sucking at his job. I canāt remember if heās ever explicitly stated to be second line now, but thatās most likely where he is. So Shaneās not going to be able to do well if the rest of the line doesnāt get their shit together and learn how to pass to him. You can only do so much as a single player.
Second line also typically gets less ice time. Shane will likely be playing less hockey because heās on the second line, which I think is going to hurt him. He likes every second he spends on the ice.
I think the biggest reason why having Shane on second line would be a downgrade is optics. Shaneās just taken a cataclysmic career hit. People are likely going to laugh at him for being second line on a bad team now and treat it as a sign that he is a worse player in a way that they wouldnāt if you just move one of them to first line winger. And you can say āwho cares what people thinkā but I frankly would care. Like. I think it would take some remarkably thick skin to just ignore the level of life-ruining public vitriol that is directed as Shane at the end of the long game. People have committed suicide over that kind of public backlash. It is so far from a minor thing.
And I think the biggest reason to have them both of the first line is because they legitimately like to play together, and they simply wonāt get to do that anymore if theyāre on different lines. One will tag out when the other tags in. I think it would drive them fucking nuts. At least if theyāre on the same line, they get to play together.
And it would also mean that both of them are played out to maximum effect. If you put either one of them on second line, their efficacy will be crippled by their linemates, who, again, just arenāt very good. Putting them on the same line means that youāre getting maximum impact out of two generational talents. Spreading them across two lines means that your scoring is going to be more evenly distributed, but one of them is going to be much less effective than he otherwise could be because his linemates are fucking ass.
I personally think the best option is to have them both on first line delivering maximum damage together when Shane joins the Centaurs. It wouldnāt be perceived as an insult to either of them, and neither one of them would be handicapped by having shit linemates. Down the line, they can always explore putting one of them on the second line to better distribute the scoring, especially once they improve the players on the second line. There would be more distance and insulation from the backlash of the trip so it would be treated less like a career demotion and more like a strategic decision in the eyes of the public. And, again, putting one of them on the second line only helps distribute scoring if their linemates arenāt totally useless. I think until you improve the second line players on the Centaurs youāre more likely to decrease how much Shane can score rather than meaningfully increasing scoring on the second line. Itās going to make Shaneās career worse more than it improves the team.
Iām far from a hockey expert, so a lot of people may disagree with this assessment, but thatās my take on it.
#theyāre bad books we can say that oh my god we need to say that
I can express how much the ending of TLG has turned me off from every 'shane leaves Montreal for Ilyas team' fic out there. I don't care if its Boston or Ottawa. Me, a veteran of the trenches that is sports rpf is excluding the captain kink tag. Fucking hell it is such a bad book and the ending made me so mad that I am now against the OTP being teammates in any canon divergence ever. If past year me saw this she would wonder what the fuck happened.
I am the exact same way and itās one of the reasons why this fandom is such a barren landscape to me. Like any fic that involves Shane leaving Montreal for Ilyaās team is a hard no for me because I hate the canon ending so much. Reminders of it just make me angry all over again.
I also donāt want them to be teammates at all. I donāt accept that they need to be on the same team to have a fulfilling and loving relationship, and I really donāt accept the idea that either of them should have to sacrifice hockey. I think they love playing with each other and being on the same team deprives them of that because they play the same goddamn position. I think they are both phenomenal players and captains and neither of them should have to take a career hit to be together. But so many fics have either both of them in Ottawa or both in Boston and so my fields are empty of harvest
What truly pisses me off about TLG is tripgate. I just. why would you write it like that. And fine. Fine. You've written it like that, how are you not dealing with any of its consequences. It just feels like the most targeted, convenient plot point to make Shane want to leave Montreal of his own will. To turn that fanbase against him via accusations of cheating. It is so so stupid and I hate it so much. (It's also supposed to somehow??? minimize the loss? He's supposed to feel empowered walking away? I need. I need to give him a gun.)
Also. The irritating thing this fandom does is giving watsonian explanations to doylist conflicts. Like. When we're criticizing Ilya's actions, we're criticizing RR and her butchering of both Ilya as a character and as an MC in a romance novel. Ilya isn't real. He's a narrative device, he's a vehicle. The one driving us off this fuckass cliff is Reid. Gods.
Tripgate legitimately cannot be salvaged unless you write an entirely new story. It is just such a bad plot point that undercuts the point of even the most generous reading of tlg, and it creates so many problems that the narrative never had any intention of solving. Like itās one of the worst goddamn plot points in a narrative fucking choked with bad writing decisions.
I very often see tripgate defended as being an important part of Shaneās heroic arc. And this interpretation just. Could not possibly be more wrong.
Shaneās āheroic arcā in tlg is picking Ilya over hockey. It is the question he is directly confronted with and the one he answers in the affirmative during his conversation with Crowell. And Iāve seen a lot of people construe the fact that Shane signs with Ottawa as him once again picking Ilya.
But thatās objectively not whatās happening. A character does not get the benefit of saying that he made a choice if the only reason why he makes that choice is because all other choices are taken from him. Shane does not get to look at his decision to move to Ottawa and say to Ilya āI left Montreal for you babe šā because he DOESNT. He leaves Montreal because heās forced out by a hostile work environment and public vitriol. He leaves Montreal because he canāt stay. And this does in fact devastate his career to the point where he is afraid that no one will sign him. He doesnāt sign with Ottawa for Ilya and so we cannot reasonably claim that itās the completion of his arc. He didnāt pick this willingly.
Which, as a note, is the same reason why I refuse to give Ilya any credit for the claim that he picked hockey over Shane. Iāve said this before, Iāll say it again, he presents the idea of moving to Canada to begin with for the sake of his own immigration. He explicitly states that America is bad for Russians and he wants to move to Canada. Shane wants to him to come to Montreal and Ilya says no because they canāt afford him. He picks Ottawa explicitly so his career wonāt take a hit, and then we retconn it in later books to make Ottawa into some terrible team that Ilya only went to because it was convenient for Shane. Like. This idea that Ilya sacrifices hockey for Shane is laughable because when he was presented with the choice of āwill you take a pay cut and sacrifice your captaincy for Shaneā he just straight up says ānoā and they do Ottawa instead. Like he legitimately picks hockey over Shane. These books drive me absolutely bonkers because I personally think that the entire narrative of āwill you pick your love over Xā is overtired but, to be clear, thatās a personal preference and not a legitimate criticism. Some books just arenāt for me and thatās fine.
The legitimate criticism is that in practice both Shane and Ilyaās actions substantively answer that question with āNOT REALLY NO.ā Ilya picks Ottawa over playing in Montreal with Shane and Shane only picks Ottawa because he loses all other options. Like oh my god that book undermines its own message at every possible turn. The books display an alarming lack of confidence in the fact that Shane and Ilya will pick each other when it comes down to it, and itās shown in the fact that they repeatedly end their stories with them either not picking each other or only picking each other out of lack of other options. It simply does not accomplish its own message.
If you accept as a premise that Shane and Ilya are best on the same team which I donāt but letās assume for the sake of the argument you should be able to get them there without putting a gun to their head. The entire point of a characterās arc and specifically a heroic character arc is to have your character become the kind of person who makes the right choice. They should be able to bring about their own ends. And tripgate completely robs them of that agency. Shaneās āhappy endingā is just a bad thing that happens to him and that he never receives an ounce of justice or healing for. Ilyaās happy ending is to be a guy whose happiness comes at his partnerās cost and who frankly does not seem to recognize or care that his partner is hurt. It cheapens both of them. Like. This is one of the most bizarrely punitive and fundamentally miserable āhappy endingsā I have ever seen executed in fiction. Her editor should be taken out back and shot like what were they thinking letting an ending like that get to print
I think with books like these itās very important to recognize when a literary analysis is watsonian and when itās Doylistic. If you are analyzing a work within that workās universe, then you are taking a watsonian approach. But Doylism demands you look at the real world influences underlying the writing choices. A watsonian analysis accepts the events and the rules of the universe and tries to find meaning within them. But a Doylistic perspective is meant to critique how the work was actually created.
And frankly, I donāt find watsonian analyses for the long game to be very helpful. There is no compelling in-universe explanation for how that book ends. If you look at it in-universe, the analysis is āShane should hire a divorce attorney.ā Like. Ilya shows a mind-boggling lack of compassion towards the man heās supposed to love more than anything in the world throughout that entire book, but particularly in how it ends.
I go after Ilya so hard in the long game but thatās because I really like Ilya as a character and Iām upset at how much he was butchered by the end of it. The ending of the long game is a discredit to both of them.
In all the other books, Ilya is presented as a compassionate and empathetic character. Thatās one of the reasons why I like him so much.
But the empathy displayed by the version of him we see in the long game is non-existent. Like. The most he does is look concerned after the game. He doesnāt even call Shane until the next day. When he does, itās to complain about how the media backlash against Shane is actually insulting to him because it implies he needed Shane to trip for him to win. Shane points out that he only won because Shane tripped and Ilyaās like āNot now Shane.ā
Every single thing he says with respect to the trip is some kind of backhanded and insulting joke. Donāt worry about the pay cut, your rich husband will provide. His captaincy? Prima fucking donna, you know you donāt get a leadership role. Get to the front of the line with the rest of the plebeians. He cracks jokes about how Shane doesnāt have any playoff games to get to at one point. The closest he gets to displaying anything close to sympathy is when Shane is worrying about whether anyone would sign him now and Ilya asks him if he needs Ilya to fuck his self esteem better in his trophy room.
And the trip is very much presented as a good thing that happened to Ilya. It is the day after it happens and Ilyaās like. Yeah, thereās a huge number of disgusting opinion pieces and angry tweets directed at disparaging the love of my life. It may be so bad that he quits the job thatās been his long-held dream to work until the day he retires. Iām so excited at the idea but Iām trying not to get my hopes up too high.
If I was going through something as personally devastating as my career dreams being lost, my reputation being trashed, and my name being dragged through the mud by the public at large, and my partner responded by getting excited and trying not to get his hopes up too high about how good this could be for him, I would be in prison.
When Shane signs with Ottawa and ends up with a new jersey, Ilya describes his joy as āoverwhelmingā and asks if he can fuck Shane in bed with it on. There is no recognition whatsoever about how this must be painful or bittersweet for Shane, who, again, has just been dragged through the mud so hard that he went from the most respected player in the League to being worried no team would sign him. The empathy is absolutely non-existent. That ending is an insult to both of their characters. Like it is so poorly written and inconsistent with their every preceding representation in the novels. And that is a Doylistic critique of the book. Iām not saying āIlya is a bad person,ā heās not a person at all. Iām saying he is written poorly.
You need to either excise tripgate entirely or you need to write an entirely new narrative dealing with and addressing its consequences and its aftermath. It is just such an ugly and poorly written ending as it stands. It completely undercuts whatās supposed to be the outright message of the book and it diminishes both of those characters.
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Is Peter āif I could get pregnant I would be Shane Hollanderās surrogate, No Need For Medical Interventionā Landry the reason Shane finds out about omegaverse/mpreg in the Sochi Outing AU?
I feel like if we eventually get Shaneās cscs āI WOULD ABORT THAT THANG >:(ā rant/leak, Peter would be the initiator of the incident (Ilya firmly asserts that It Is All That Whore Familyās Fault and his beef with the Landrys grows by the power of ten)
I donāt think Peter reads or is super aware of fanfic, and particularly omegaverse fanfic. I think Rose is only aware of it because people showed it to her during an interview and now she inflicts the knowledge on others. If Shane finds out about just how many people want him pregnant itās going to be because rose finds out that thereās a fuckton of fic of Shane Hollander either impregnating or being impregnated by Her Own Brother Who She Knew In The Cradle and she immediately decided to inflict this knowledge on both of those poor men. Hey do you want to know a fun fact I learned today
I think this AU means that in the off season Shane and Ilya go golfing with Obama.
Ilyaās got one hand on Shaneās elbow the whole time so he doesnāt walk straight into the water hazard right after he makes eye contact with Obama, who has probably patriot actād his sexts
I love how when there are discussions about the Sochi au there is always the addition of Obama. Obama was there and he knows and don't you forget that.
I imagine the outrage about the rebuild gets so big that Obama gets asked about it in press conferences. Gods people would actually be aware of hockey in the US. Actually crazy that it might not be the fourth biggest in north america in that au.
Itās because his presence in this fic torments me. Iām so sorry to RPF you Mr President but youāre needed
Shane and Ilyaās fucking situationship does more to elevate hockey in the global public eye than anything the NHL has ever done in its entire history. Like this is such a big scandal and then when Shane gets on his bullshit with the rebuild it all just gets stirred up again. Like they really took U.S. hockey from a relatively unpopular sport to a globally followed institution. These poor fucking men just want to play their sport and have life-affirming gay sex and for those two things to be unrelated but theyāre simply too politically relevant for their own good.
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in pez, what kind of messaging app are Izuku et al using? Where like Izukuās phone number is a secret but Shinsou (and Bakugouā¦?) can still contact him but also deliberately share their contact after messaging him(?)
Class 3-A uses a GroupMe style messaging app for their class group chat. One person makes the chat and adds everyoneās account, so each individual participant doesnāt necessarily have the phone number of the individual people in the groupchat, especially if you didnāt make the chat yourself. GroupMe allows you to send DMs to individuals in the chat through the app. Shinsou and Bakugou are dm-ing him in the app because they donāt have his actual phone number. Shinsou has never contacted Izuku directly. And Bakugou never got Izukuās updated contact information after Izukuās phone number was leaked in their second year. If Izuku has someoneās actual phone number, thatās a sign that heās close to that person. If theyāre starting a GroupMe style chat to talk to them, then heās not even given them his phone number.
