We are in different time zones (I think probably) which means I always get the treat of waking up to your posts. Its great. It gets me out of sleep immediately. I cannot impress upon you how much my college attendance has benefitted from this.
good morning internet strangers. remember to floss and hydrate
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Syn I love you and I love snapping birch. I just started my reread and good lord one of the articles just rage-baited me so bad I had to reread your sochiAU â ď¸
if ur curious it was the opinion piece in chapter 2 where it says "In the last few years, Shane Hollanderâs natural talents on the rink have allowed him to gain notoriety in the hockey world, with a few even claiming heâd go down in history as one of the greats. "
Shane's natural talents. A few "claiming" he'd go down as one of the greats. A few? A FEW???????
THAT IS SHANE MF HOLLANDER DAMMIT STOP FUCKING UP HIS BRANDDDDDD
anyway thank you again for this excellent way of writing the story and I hope you enjoy knowing you've got your readers fucked up đ˘ đŤĄ
See love this so much because youâre picking up the exact points I really hoped would be the takeaway from that article.
The key word in that opening sentence is ânatural.â It is meant to detract from Shane. It is not that he put in the work and the training to be the best that ever did it. No, itâs luck. He won the genetic lottery. The hockey gods smiled upon his birth. But he didnât earn this.
Shane would have put in thousands of hours of training to become a world-class talent. There is nothing natural about it. No one comes out the womb as the greatest hockey player in the world. Natural talent helps, but it only takes you so far. You need to put in the work, and Shane did. The world ânaturalâ is there to discredit him.
And thatâs also why the words âa fewâ is there. It was not a fucking few. Shane Hollander is the most talked-about and praised hockey player on the goddamn planet. The person writing that article canât escape that. You search his name and look at anything pre-leak and you end up with hundreds of articles talking about how heâs the greatest boy to ever hockey.
The person writing the article is trying to hedge his bets. Splitting the baby and saying that itâs just âa fewâ people claiming heâs one of the hockey greats allows him to still implicitly downplay Shaneâs reputation while simultaneously acknowledging it. A few is relative. Itâs subjective. Whatâs âa fewâ to me may be different to what you consider as âa few.â You canât dismiss that articleâs authorâs credibility out of hand because, hey, look, he acknowledged Shaneâs career leading up to this. He didnât lie or outright hide the truth. Maybe we just have a different definition of a few.
Thereâs a lot of people walking into this leak who werenât watching hockey before this. They do not have a pre-existing opinion on Shane and his abilities as a player. That article is targeting those people. Because of they see a post or a competing article saying that Shane Hollander is going down in history as one of the hockey greats and this is insane, theyâre going to think back to that article. Theyâre going to think back to that a few. And theyâre going to think, isnât it still up for debate then? A few people say that. But thatâs not everyone.
But it is everyone. Shane Hollander walked into this with the best reputation in all of fucking hockey. His brand is a behemoth and itâs one that his detractors need to draw blood from. They need to leave the impression that thereâs more up to question about just how good Shane Hollander is. They are revising the narrative to make it sound like thereâs debate around Shane and his abilities that there simply isnât.
They need less people to think about how theyâve gone after the two greatest talents in the history of their sport. Because if enough people think about that, the injustice becomes so much clearer.
Do you think Shaneâs loyalty to the Metroâs in snapping birch wouldnât be as severe if itâs wasnât Yunaâs ride or die team? I mean to say, if he had been drafted to a west coast team and things played out the same way, would he be as desperate to stay or is he playing discrimination lawsuit chicken with any team out there to make himself untouchable (before his body crashes out)?
I love how all of the people here are like. Ah yes. Rose Landry. Famous actress. America's sweetheart. Soulmates with Shane, in all universes. OWNER OF MULTIPLE GUNS
itâs one of the greatest marks I have left on this fandom
Okay SO I've been rereading Snapping Birch from the start for funsies, and I've encountered the part in Ch. 2 where Yuna is PISSED at Hayden for dragging Shane to a party. Dave says that Yuna likes Hayden, and she basically goes "well I used to like Kyle and look how he turned out." I doubt this will ever come up in any relevant capacity but: What did Kyle do??? Did he turn on Shane for being better at hockey? Did he try to pressure Shane into drinking? Did he go to a sleepover and then sell pictures to the media (since Shane is inspired by Crosby)?
I just want to know how high Kyle remains on Yuna's ever-present enemies list. Like probably below the players & ref who ended her hockey career, and definitely below R*ger Cr*well, right, but like... above someone who messed up her coffee order? Below or above a teacher who didn't step in after Shane's autism diagnosis? Apologies I know its been months since this bit, but I'd LOVE to know more about Kyle lmaoooo
I shanât say who Kyle is. But keep an eye out for him. I intend to name drop him in one more scene. I have already written that scene. It is the only thing I have ever written that made me cry, and I have written some emotionally fucked scenes.
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I just wanted to say thank you for writing snapping birch. you are an incredibly talented writer. the amount of thought and care you put into this fic is so evident and reading about the thought process behind it here on tumblr is so illuminating. I was wondering if/when there will be an update? I'm so completely hooked lol <3
Iâm glad you like it! We are very close on a snapping birch update. Iâm hoping for either this weekend or early next week, but weâll see how life goes.
I cant stop thinking about how ilya in your head (specifically snapping birch ilya but all versions pf your ilya i love) meeting the long game ilya. The long game everyone really.
Itd be like he went though the tunnel in coroline except its already weird nightmare version.
(side note you are also a part of my morning routine inwake up and refresh this blog every day)
Tlg Ilya would be dead and they would never find the body. Like. Out of all my Ilyas, snapping birch Ilya is fucking around the least. That man is out for goddamn blood.
All of my Ilyas are very locked in people but snapping birch Ilya is unique in the sense that he has just gone through a very sudden transition from a forced state of inaction to a a state of intense action. He went from having no control over the situation to having the most control in all of Camp Hollanov. And I mean specifically over Shaneâs condition and safety. Yuna is masterminding the social media campaign in snapping birch with the help of Roseâs top of the line PR attack firm. But Ilya is the one everyone is deferring to when it comes to Shane.
Iâve mentioned this in other posts, but Shane decided to cover up his own abuse for Reasons I Shanât Say. He did everything he could to prevent the story from getting out to the public, and in doing so, he limited his own options to stop what was happening. He enabled his own abuse.
Ilya has been losing his goddamn mind.
Ilya has been losing his goddamn mind.
Ilya had the least power to intervene in what was happening to Shane. Heâs not a Metro. Heâs not even in the same country as the Metros. He canât be in that locker room or on the ice with Shane. He canât help him at all. And they havenât even begun to walk back the rivalry yet. If ilya comes out making broad, sweeping statements in favor of Shane Hollander and accusing the Metros management of abuse, theyâre going to open a very big can of worms, and they had no idea what consequences would follow. And, again, Shane himself has been trying to keep this from getting out. Ilya has spent months feeling helpless.
Which is one of the reasons why he dug his heels in so goddamn hard on telling J.J. That was the one shred of control that he had over the situation. He didnât know how J.J. would take the news and he couldnât be sure until it was too late. Ilya was not willing to risk anything else going wrong to worsen the situation. And he knew Shane would never out him. No, he does not even want his existence to even be implied to J.J.
Ilya was straight up contemplating murder as a solution before the leak happened. He would do well in prison even if he got caught. Like. He is so fucking far from fucking around right now. He is ready for decisive action.
Ilyaâs not helpless right now. He can finally help Shane. Heâs got the helm, and heâs got some direction, and he can finally do whatever it goddamn takes to fix this.
I also mentioned this in other posts, but Shaneâs cataclysmically bad right now. He has not slept since the night of the 11th. It is the fucking 15th. He is boiling alive in his own stress. Like. This season has been very hard on his body already and then someone went and retroactively Truman showâd him. He is in hell designed for Shane Hollander. Heâs. Heâs doing bad.
Everyoneâs letting Ilya take the lead with him. Yunaâs the general when it comes to the social media campaign but Ilyaâs the one setting the terms when it comes to Shane. Heâs trying to limit stress so Shane can like. Medically. Get in a position where he can sleep again. No one can even come to see Shane unless they text Ilya first. And the only one who ever overrides Ilyaâs decisions when it comes to Shane is Shane himself.
Shaneâs. Unwell. Heâs letting Ilya take much more of the lead than he normally would because heâs frankly never been less okay in his entire life. Ilyaâs shouldering the brunt of the decision-making right now and Shaneâs only vetoing when itâs something he really gives a shit about.
For example, Ilya actually tried to ban Shaneâs involvement in social media on the night of the 15th.
Ilyaâs very very goal oriented in snapping birch. He is picking a goal and bulldozing the most direct path there. Right now, his #1 goal is âget that fucker to go to sleep before he has a heart attack.â Like. He has legitimate heart attack concerns. He sent out one of the assistants they have running the ground-level labor right now to go out and buy him an AED because heâs terrified Shaneâs going to have a heart attack and an ambulance wonât get to the cottage in time to save him. That is how extreme his concerns are.
They had Shane draft his own social media on the night of the 13th with overview from the PR firm. At the time, they were focused on matching his tone and speech patterns. Again, Camp Hollanov is constrained in its spin because the public has a massive reference base in Davidâs phone. People know what Shane Hollander sounds like when heâs speaking privately now. Theyâve read years and years of his texts. They thought itâd be a safer bet to have Shane do the initial draft and make it sound more naturally like himself.
Thatâs over now. Shane reacted very poorly to his return to social media. Having to see glimpses of the leak and what people were saying with it combined with having to give up even more of his personal details? Psychic damage. Extreme psychic damage. Ilya blamed his involvement on the 13th for Shaneâs inability to sleep after and tried to outright ban Shaneâs future involvement from social media until he slept. No one was asking him to draft or look at shit until he actually slept.
Shane actually cared about that. So he vetoed.
Montreal is his city. He knew theyâd want to hear from him, and he wasnât about to let anything go out under his name without putting eyes on it himself. He didnât do the initial drafting, but he approved the tweets from the 15th, which is more involvement than Ilya wanted him to have.
But Shaneâs operating on nonexistent bandwidth right now. Like. Heâs so sleep deprived that his decision making ability is outright compromised. Heâs letting Ilya have the run of it for the most part. And Ilyaâs fucking running with it.
That all goes to say that snapping birch Ilya is all for solving problems in the most extreme and decisive manner possible. Give him a fucking gun at this rate. He will not hesitate.
He would hate tlg Ilya. Awful fucking creature puppeting his skin. He does NOT claim him. Where is Shaneâs whore and all of her guns. Her plague on Ilyaâs life can finally be useful.
Like. I think snapping birch Ilya would be the most diametrically opposed version of Ilya That Lives In My Head to tlg Ilya. Like what do you fucking mean he got excited when Shane found himself at the center of a social media scandal because it might be good for Ilya??? What do you MEAN he just sort of checked out and left Shane to it??? Snapping birch Ilya is about to go to goddamn war over here.
Theyâre just so different and so similar in such a fucked up nightmare realm coraline way. I didnât even plan that. That just happened.
There are surface level similarities. Both Ilyas want to get Shane to leave Montreal for Ottawa. But the substance of that desire is completely different.
Tlg Ilya fully and explicitly wants Shane in Ottawa for his own interests. His internal monologue is all about having Shane on his team and getting to be with him all the time. He is excited and hopeful at the idea, to the point where heâs like âI need to try to not get my hopes up too high. Shane loves Montreal so much that a few editorials and angry tweets would never be enough to get him to leave it.â Like babe. You mean the smear campaign?? Against the love of your life??? Youâre trying to not get your hopes up about the end results of the smear campaign????
Snapping birch Ilya also was desperate to get Shane to Ottawa. But it was fully and explicitly about getting him out of harms way. Like. Snapping birch Ilya doesnât want Shane to lose Montreal. He just doesnât want Shane to die. If he succeeded in getting Shane off Montreal and onto another team, it would still be a very bitter and painful moment.
Both Ilyas have their Shanes at the center of a very public controversy. snapping birch Ilya has never been more locked in to deal with it and get Shane through it. But tlg Ilya just sort of checked out. Like. He just doesnât bring it up for several pages. The closest he gets to even acknowledging that something happened is when he cracks a joke to Shane about how Shane doesnât have any playoff games to get to anymore. Like Ilya do you think that might be a sore subject here. Now. When Shaneâs being dragged through the mud for getting knocked out of the playoffs.
Even the sex of it all is different. I had a different post explaining this, but in snapping birch, Shane and Ilyaâs sex life is hitting historic lows. Like. Theyâre just not having a lot of it. Itâs been like that for months. Shaneâs been going through a lot physically, and theyâve both been going through a lot emotionally. They could not have possibly been less in the mood with everything going on.
But they do decide to try having sex on the night of the 14th as a sort of desperate stab at a homebrew sleep aid. Medically speaking, sex produces hormones and endorphins that encourage sleep. Melatonin wasnât doing shit, and Shane was refusing heavy duty medication. They were willing to try sex if it got Shane to sleep.
And I think they felt kind of weird about trying sex as like, a utilitarian problem solving method. I donât think they like having sex be for anything but sex. Like. It was fully consensual and neither of them were uncomfortable doing it, but I think they both were conscious of the fact that they probably wouldnât have picked to have sex that night had it not been for utilitarian purposes. This scandal has impacted their sex life and they donât like it.
The main support tlg Ilya gives Shane post trip gate is offering to fuck the self esteem back into Shane. Shaneâs spiralling about his career being ruined now, and Ilyaâs like âmaybe I should take you back to your trophy room again,â aka the place where he last fixed Shaneâs self esteem with his cock. Like. We can just say âIâm sorry youâre going through this.â
snapping birch Ilya would view tlg Ilya as an evil mirror-verse version of himself. He would kill that man and burn the body.
Oh, so the entire Game Changers series is set in a fictional hockey setting where several things are different from Real Life, and that's why you should accept how it is. Okay.
However, one sentence from a post that @teddywesworl made me really understand why I could never do that. Jas says in a March 25 post that "The obvious problem is of course that when you bring real world events into your fictionalized NHL, you are now open to continued comparisons that you may never have intended, in particular for a very old club with deep roots in a marginalized culture to which you, the author, do not belong."
So this is going to be a long rant, gays, girls, and squirrels. Continue when you have time.
SO, in this setting, the cap exists, and Montreal (the gay hockey capital of the world) doesn't give a shit about the Shane Hollander (gay hockey Jesus) being run out of their team, and in HR Ilya purposely doesn't consider going to Montreal because he wants to be paid what he's worth and keep his captaincy and have his career + citizenship, while in TLG that choice is rewritten as if he did it for "love" only. The first time that Ottawa is brought up as a terrible team is in My Dinner With Hayden, by the way.
And when Shane does the same thing with wanting to stay in Montreal for his career and keep his captaincy - well - you are such a selfish pos for that, ofc; how could you not choose the man you love over being seen as a diversity hire who got too diverse and needed to hide behind your boyfriend, haha.
And obviously Shane didn't go through any actual terrible homophobia from his team until the tripping incident; that's why we don't get a Shane POV of him coming out to the team, or anything about how his coach took it, or the staff in the entire Montreal organization. If there wasn't any big problem, then why is Shane so jumpy about being outed? Well, it's just because he is such a high-strung guy and a bad boyfriend, ofc. Shane doesn't have trauma; only Ilya does (RR said it!), which obviously means that racism and the entirety of Canadian junior hockey doesn't fucking exist in this universe, haha.
It's really not important, after all; Ilya is going through such a terrible time with depression, guys. Shane is holding out on him on purpose to make sure Ilya is suffering as much as possible!! You don't understand; it's not like Shane actively dissociates to ensure that he is able to Get Through the Hard Times. It's not like he believed his boyfriend when Ilya lied to his face and made Shane doubt his own intuition that the signs of his depression were actually a big deal haha.
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RR's list of character traits for Ilya and Shane also contributes to how disgustingly TLG is written btw.
An excellent blog that talks about the sheer insanity of what happens to Shane (and Ilya's characterization) in TLG is @polysyndetonaddictsupportgroup
from one of Syn's posts:
["One of the many Rachel Reid controversies around the writing of these books is that she posted a list of character traits that were the core guidelines of writing Shane and Ilya. Most of shaneâs traits were just defined as like, the absence of whatever Ilyaâs trait was. âIlya is cool, Shane is not. Ilya carries grief and trauma, Shane does not. Ilya is very intelligent, Shane is not,â etc.
Shane got a few actual traits though. One was that he was obsessed with hockey, whereas Ilya was not. He was described as being very private and cautious about letting people in, whereas Ilya seeks intimacy from everyone. And Ilya is extremely perceptive, whereas Shane barely notices his own feelings."]
So, all the signs that Shane was observant enough to catch in HR & TLG whenever Ilya couldn't explain his feelings out loud, but RR needed Shane to figure out how Ilya was feeling, apparently don't matter enough to his characterization because in the second half of TLG, Shane randomly turns unobservant and "stupid". Because Shane is not intelligent, Ilya is. And Shane is not cool; Ilya is. Shane is not selfless; Ilya is. Shane is not white or neurotypical or the author's special little sad boi.
Shane has so few characteristics that are just about him, and not just that he is the absence of Ilya's traits. He gets: love of hockey, love of privacy, being cautious with his trust (which makes it more precious that he gave Ilya his trust - and annoys me when RR uses Hayden as a conflict starter for no reason), and he is characterized as a person who, once he understands exactly what he wants, makes sure it happens.
So in total, we have: hockey lover, privacy lover, cautious dude, go-getter. This is Rachel Reid's Shane Hollander, everybody.
So in a Watsonian analysis: TLG is a fucking mess.
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And Harris being with Troy and doing all that cute PDA together in TLG. How cute it is, especially in front of all of their coworkers and in their professional lives. But ofc Hollanov would be the ones who need a PDA jar in fanfic. right. right. And Shane, Mr. Professional, Mr. I Do Not Want Others To Perceive Me Or My Relationships, would be so not embarrassed of this and super comfy with his husband's team he had to sign with after his entire professional career was blown up because it's his HEA. right.
And also, Troy Barrett definitely never said or agreed with anything racist said around him because it was never written into the books; only homophobia exists in this universe, DUH... which ofc means that there is no reason for Shane to be a little wary of Ilya randomly coming out to Troy in TLG. He is just a jealous little guy haha.
Because Troy (white + rehabilitated image like crazy style) and Harris (white + the one who dedicated his time to rehabilitate Troy's image crazy style) get their HEA after Troy comes out and Harris is promoted.
Because Scott (white + rich) and Kip (white + educated) get their HEA where they are The Gay Couple of hockey.
Because Ryan (white + retired) and Fabian (Lebanese-Canadian + "glamourous") get their HEA after making up and escaping hockey.
(Also, Fabian barely gets any attention to his race either; it's mostly an excuse to have him be âbeautifulâ and âgolden-skinned.â)
Because Eric (white + retired) and Kyle (white + non-hockey) get their HEA after figuring out how to trust each other.
So happy ever afters that are kind to both halves of a couple exist.
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Ilya Rozanov (white with a background apparently excellently researched and written + a known, successful captain who led his former team to the Stanley Cup once and rebuilt Ottawa to proper playoff contenders in 2-3 years) helps each of these couples understand themselves or sees their struggles in a crucial moment several times, as he is characterized as an empath.
And yet, he suddenly lost all of that empathy when he said he was happy his husband's, Shane Hollander (Asian-Canadian + very successful captain who led his team to 3 Stanley Cups), career was blown up, with several jokes being made about it. What the actual fuck happened in RR's fingertips for this bullshit to be written and brushed off because "its just a romance book" & "you shouldn't take things so seriously in this genre."
No. I'm going to take it seriously.
If this book is supposed to be escapism, then who can escape when Shane is hatecrimed and gaslit, Ilya becomes a terrible partner, Hayden is just a plot device to make you think that Ilya has a terrible reputation that no one can use their brain to look through, Galina is a plot device to make Ilya look like he's trying to get better & to put the "would Shane choose you over hockey" question into his head, and JJ is a black man who apparently doesn't understand why his Asian-Canadian captain doesn't want to put more diversity into his image???
And @lesbianroselandry had a great July 4 post where they said TLG "...includes multiple passages in which rachel reid posits that a bunch of white queer people understand bigotry in hockey culture better than a qpoc in hockey (because he's, like, too autistic to get it or something??),..." which also brings me back to Ilya for some reason (*cough* RR *cough*) thinks that Shane doesn't understand the dark side of hockey.
Pardon? Shane Hollander, who grew up as Canada's golden Hockey Jesus, doesn't know the dark side of Canadian Hockey? Just fucking kill me already.
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Shane Hollander did not get a HEA by the end of TLG, and no one will be able to brainwash me into thinking that he did. He can be written to tell himself to accept that what he got is the best he can get in the book-universe, but he is not a person - he is a character. I am a person who can read everything in that series and think critically about how the minority character - who is in a rivalry and relationship with the white man who benefits from his slashed career - is the one who got cheated out of a HEA. Because even in a fucking unrealistic universe where hockey doesn't work like that, racism fucking prevails. He is the one who had to settle. He is the one who didn't get what he wanted (his jersey in the rafters, his team supporting him, and Ilya as his husband). He gets a paltry fate as a second-liner, with a rookie and Tanner Dillon (who has been said to suck as a winger). He gets jokes about how he'll never get the C, even though he will always have more Cups than the fucker who laughed at that joke. He doesn't even get the A. Are you kidding me? His pay is cut. "Good thing that your husband can take care of you as the breadwinner đ" No. Absolutely not. Shane is literally being forced into the wife role. He is being destroyed in his career, moving to his husband's gay utopia where they laugh at him too, and whenever he brings up feeling a bit sad, his empathetic husband talks about fucking the bad feelings out of him. What the fuck.
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Also?
SHANE IS A GREAT CAPTAIN. No, he isn't written as someone screaming speeches at his team to hype them up, but you know what he did do? He is trusted and liked by his team, so he is invited out again and again, despite however many times he declines. He is a hard worker, diligent, particular, and a great hockey player who elevates the game. He put together a team of large egos, mostly white teammates who undoubtedly gave him a hard time, dealt with an old-fashioned coach, and dragged them to the playoffs every year he was a captain. He is Ilya Rozanov's equal on every level, at minimum, not just what people want to pick and choose from.
No, the fact that Shane's teammates turned on him doesn't mean he didn't cultivate enough good-fucking-will in the locker room. It means they were homophobic enough to betray the person who toiled over their progress and work ethic and brought them to a level of excellence that got them 3 fucking Cups. Stop blaming the gay guy for the homophobia of the people around him. Parents will abandon their children on the streets, send their children to conversion camps, and allow their children to be raped or tortured because of homophobia. The Montreal Voyageurs loved Shane Hollander when they thought he was a great leader and straight. They allowed their homophobia to destroy that. If loving someone enough could stop homophobes, then the fucking closet wouldn't be a thing. Stop acting like Shane was in the wrong for any of that, including trusting the men he loved like family for 10 years.
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I have so much more to say (not even including side character đ, and especially about how Yuna is also turned into a plot device to make Shane look super selfish after Ryan Price catches Shane & Ilya, but I'm actually steaming right now, so I'll reblog this with more when I can.
A final word would be that @ravenbytes had a great take in her March 26 post (you can tell just how long I've been chewing on this idea lol), where she said that, "We canât simply forget that the Doylist perspective exists, and it is crucial that we consider that perspective before ripping a character to shreds for their mistakes. As such, the author has a responsibility to their story to ensure narrative clarity, consistency, and coherence in theme, tone, and character alongside plot progression."
The book can be fun and/or impactful for any reader who isn't bothered by the bigotry or implicit biases of the author. For me, this is like talking about Harry Potter and how JKR very obviously names her POC characters with the most racist option "on accident." If RR isn't racist, then she can at least admit that her subconscious is driving the wheel and crashing her writing into every fucking racist stereotype.
Sure, Jan. Keep enjoying the crack fics and sucking on the grand cock of racism and all the other ism/phobia's.
You know what would give u brain worms and piss you off? Arcane.
It starts great! And then season 2 comes along and shits on everything and starts talking about how it's on the opressed to break the cycle of violence and redeming abusive cops and having everyone forgive the rich and only have the cgaracters from the oppressive class have happy endings.
And the fans FALL FOR IT. Gorgeous show but it pisses me off on the same level HR pisses you off
Hilariously I did in fact watch arcane season 1 and never got around to watching season 2.
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hello, syn. i would like to inform you that i too start my day by typing polysyn in the tumblr search bar. it's a delight to read your blog and i am lucky to start my day with it.
syn I have unintentionally incorporated reading your blog into my daily routine.
I wake up, read your posts while I take my meds. You predate me checking my emails. You predate me checking the calendar. For some reason, my half asleep brain has decided you are the best source of dopamine to start my day.
Itâs currently almost 10pm. My fingers automatically open tumblr. My phone autocomplete finishes your handle as soon as i type polysy into the search bar.
I donât know when this habit formed. But itâs here now. Credit to you, my dentist wishes they could get me to build this type of routine regularity.
it is my birthday and legit the only thing i've wanted to do all day is reread pez as a treat đââď¸ thank you for your beautiful contributions to the mha in my mind (it's the mha that would be so good if it was good)
cheers from my apartment balcony and free ice cream and open ao3 browser 𫡠your writing is just as delicious as the mint chocolate chip and your impact on the world is immeasurable đĽ°đđ
god damn can you imagine what would happen if shane got hurt after sochi? like bad enough that that kick happened where montreal couldn't do anything about it but if something happened at home? could be a hate crime [very brave homophobe to do that in front of the very normal fans and also, the world], could be a genuine accident. either way that's a player who cannot be left on his own in montreal ever again for his own safety.
Iâm sorry but all I can think of is poor fucking Cliff Marleau bodying His Boyâs Man into the ice and not only having to deal with facing Ilya after but also now he has to deal with the absolute fucking POWDER KEG that is a Montreal that has just had their hockey boy returned to their grateful embrace from the perils of Russia only to watch as his collarbone is immediately broken on home ice and ALSO now a bunch of people think heâs homophobic but heâs literally an ally okay his sisterâs a lesbian
The discussions about the closet and Shane's preference for privacy have been both enraging and validating, so thank you for hosting and posting!
Even aside from my experience as a bisexual woman in a long-term hetero relationship (what does 'out' even look like for me?), I have so much empathy for Shane's position having experienced this judgement about not being open about my relationship along another axis.
My partner and I are from different ethnic, religious and national backgrounds. We have been together for over two decades and he has never told his family (who live in his country of origin) about me. We will never visit his country of origin together and have to be careful to not advertise our relationship when travelling to certain other countries as well.
The number of people who have implied (or outright stated) that him not telling his family about me is red flag for him and a black mark against our relationship is astonishing. People make these judgements with no knowledge of the cultural, social and familial dynamics he is working under. They assume he must be ashamed of me or doesn't love me enough and that I must be secretly miserable about it. He made an informed decision that protects both of us and that I support.
I deflect by joking about how nice it is not to have to deal with in-laws, but a lot of people just don't understand. Total openness and honesty is not always the best or safest option.
I think this is a really valuable viewpoint that doesnât get talked about enough.
We live in a kind of shitty world. Sometimes you have to make hard choices for the sake of safety, and I donât think thereâs enough compassion for that. Thereâs such an emphasis on Living Your Truth that we sort of forget that some people still Die Because of Their Truth. Like. We do not have a safe enough or accepting enough world to act like the only solution is for every marginalized person to be Out and Loud and Open. Sometimes you need to just decide to be safe.
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Genuine question from someone who hasn't read the books and has zero interest in reading them (especially now) but do you think jacob tierney will be able to pull off the next set of plot points in a way that isn't badbadbad?
Honestly I have no idea
I try not to prejudge someoneâs writing before it comes out because Iâve been on the writing side of it and had comments come in worrying about where Iâm going with something and a lot of the time Iâm sitting there like âtrust me bro I got this.â
I think Jacob Tierney did a good job with season 1. Iâm a little bit worried about season 2. Heâs had interviews expressing a desire to remain faithful to the source material, which. I am obviously against. But Iâm also not going to pretend like I get a full picture of what heâs planning just from vague interview comments.
Iâm gonna let him do his thing and give him the benefit of the doubt for right now, but I donât think Iâm personally going to watch season 2 as it comes out. Iâm going to hold off and find out how much they change and what they change before I watch anything. Iâm not super interested in watching the show any further absent some critical changes to the source material, so I just wonât watch
In the Sochi Outing AU, who knows that this isn't/wasn't real life hockey Romeo & Juliet at the time of the Sochi Outing? As we get further and further in it obviously gets stronger and stronger for both of them and hopefully one day they can *~*see it was real all along*~* but are they confiding in anyone other than Boris and Thompson about this? I have high hopes that HÊlène is roped in at some point and gives nothing more helpful than a "huh. Sucks, bro."
If anyone finds out, itâs Hayden and/or Cliff.
As a baseline policy, they are not saying shit to anyone.
They have to run their lives like they are goddamn deep cover spies. They absolutely cannot risk emotional confessions to their team about how this was never real. They have an actual world power after them. Russia is not letting this go and would fucking jump at the chance to tell the world that the gay hockey Romeo & Juliet love story was never real. And they cannot risk the possibility that they tell a teammate, and that teammate goes home and eventually tells their dearest partner of five years who they love the truth that they learned today with complete confidence in the fact that it will remain a secret⌠and that partner was a Russian plant all along.
Other people share secrets. Other people get drunk and blab by accident. Other people have secret gambling addictions and get desperate enough for money that they decide to sell to the press. You have fallings out with other people and they decide, you know what? I have a fun fact I can still share. They have so much to lose that they cannot risk this information getting out. This is strictly need to know basis.
Shaneâs parents find out immediately. They need to know. Their involvement is critical in keeping the lie running, and I donât think Shane would be able to stomach lying to his parents for the rest of their lives. Boris and Thompson are both also need to know. They are just in such close proximity to Shane and Ilya at almost all moments that itâd be impossible to keep it from them, and they are also running so much of their overall security. They need to know what kind of potential targets they need to be worried about, especially if they find people who come looking for info about the hollanov early years.
I think Hayden knows though, in part because of how I imagine the dynamic with J.J.
J.J. had a rough fucking time in the major junior hockey system. He was a top performer but he was still very much the odd man out. He was ostracized by his team. This was in part because of his race. He was the only black kid in the room. This wasnât a fact that went over well for him.
But itâs also was because he wasnât an asshole. One of his teammates passed around photos of his girlfriend in the locker room without her knowledge. J.J. told her, and from then on, he was on the outs with his team. He had the reputation of a guy you couldnât trust. A guy who wouldnât have your back. They made his life hell and it was hammered into him, again and again, that it was his own fault that he was so alone. He betrayed them first. He couldnât be trusted. He wouldnât have his teammates back when they needed it.
J.J. came into the Metros the year after Shane and Hayden. Shane and Hayden had been rookies together. They had famously been rookies together. Shayden had a little bit of a WillMack style craze in the in-universe media. Everyone loved Shane Hollander, and the Metros media personnel decided that his friendship with Hayden humanized him. Hockey God Shane Hollander also likes to hang out with his best buddy. Shane and Hayden had a very set dynamic by the time J.J. got there.
J.J. came in the first year Shane was captain. Shane was young and under intense scrutiny, and J.J. had known about Shane Hollander since he was 14 years old. Shane had been famous for J.J.âs entire tenure in the major junior hockey system.
J.J. always kind of wondered about Shane. If being so famous made it any better for him in there. If. If he also dreaded going into the locker room. Probably not, right?
Not long after Shane became captain, he ended up with some tension with some of the more veteran players. He wouldnât let them haze the rookies. The vets insisted it was an important bonding experience, part of team chemistry, itâd make them closer, and Shane just insisted hazing never made him feel close with the guys hazing him. That all came after, when they actually played. Câmon. Weâre skipping that step.
He took shit for it, but he wouldnât budge, and he had such a quiet but visceral hate for hazing that it took J.J. off guard.
And thatâs. Thatâs the moment J.J. decided he really, really wanted to be friends with Shane. He just. He didnât want to be the odd man out on this team. And he didnât want to hate the locker room ever again. He thought Shane got what it meant to dread your own locker room and he. He suspected Shane would get a lot that the rest of the team wouldnât.
He felt on the off step at the start? Shane and Hayden were such close friends already, and he was new and felt like he was elbowing his way into it. But he did it. The three of them, they all ended up falling into something together. Best friends he ever had.
J.J. knows the truth from Sochi, or at least most of it. Heâs fuzzy on the exact details but he, Carter, and Scott know broadly that theyâre all just selling a story. Heâll keep the secret until the day he dies.
But I think he would struggle lying to Hayden. J.J. knows what it is to be the odd man out. He doesnât want that to be Hayden.
Hayden also believes the lie the least at the start.
He can tell something is fucking up. He doesnât believe the story and heâs pushing for the truth. Heâs stuck between being scared that Shaneâs stuck in a fake relationship with a guy who molested him on a balcony in 2011 and being scared that it isnât all a lie and Hayden just came off as so homophobic that Shane told J.J. and not him. I think they tell him because they trust him so highly and to preserve his relationship with J.J. and Shane.
And let me tell you, Hayden fucking hates Ilya at the start of this fic. He is killing that man with his mind.
Hayden absolutely hates the idea of Shane being trapped in a long term relationship, possibly including marriage, with someone he wasnât even dating at the start, particularly because this happened because Shane went for a handshake and Ilya went for second base. Like. He is very much focused on the part of that video that ended with Shane shoving Ilya off of him, having to stop Ilya a second time when he went in for another kiss, and storming off upset. Heâs not giving so much credence to how long Shane spent kissing back.
Hayden also has a very specific fear that heâs grappling with, and itâs the idea that Shane will feel obligated to have sex with Ilya.
Shane and Ilya absolutely have to keep up appearances of a dedicated and monogamous relationship. They cannot afford to be caught sleeping around. If theyâre getting sex, it needs to be from each other.
And Ilya had a reputation for sleeping around before this. He had sex very regularly with a lot of people. Now his only way to get it is out of Shane. Hayden is very worried that Shaneâs going to keep sleeping with Ilya because heâs trying to satisfy him enough that he doesnât blow the entire secret by fucking around with someone else.
Itâs important to note that Hayden is coming into this very unwilling to give Ilya the benefit of the doubt. Again, his intro to Hollanov is a video that involves them fighting about something, Shane turning to leave upset, offering Ilya a sportsman-like handshake, and Ilya backing him against a wall and shoving his tongue down his throat. Shane eventually pushes him off, and Ilya tries to go back in again. Shane ends up shoving Ilya against the wall, and then he storms off, visibly upset. Like. As far as Haydenâs concerned, he already hated Ilya at the outset and he also has video proof that Ilya has already crossed Shaneâs physical boundaries once and managed to ruin his fucking life in the process.
And Shaneâs not exactly making tender proclamations of his secret love to Hayden. He doesnât talk about his emotions. He comes back from Sochi and, from Haydenâs perspective, spends the next few months boiling in his own stress from the consequences. And before a Boston game, Hayden sort of probes if Shane wants to just stay at the hotel instead of with Ilya. He doesnât have to go spend the night with him if he doesnât want to. Shane is very stressed in the moment and blows him off with a âJesus Hayden of course I doâ which, to Shane, means âif I donât go over there there are going to be international news stories about how Hollanov is breaking up 3.5 weeks after the entire world rallied to save their love and people will want us drawn and quartered in the streets for it and I really donât want to deal with thatâ not âI have to go sexually service Ilya Rozanov to keep a lie made for his benefit afloatâ
But Hayden hears âHayden should go buy a gun. Thatâs what Hayden should do.â Like. He is KILLING that man with his mind. Haydenâs gonna need some time to come to terms with Hollanov.
I think they tell Cliff because Ilya really needs someone in the aftermath.
I talked about this in another post, but Svetlana is stuck in Russia doing spy game shit. And yes I will get her out of Russia before the fic ends I would never leave her in there but it would be a long and involved process. Ilya is absolutely fucking terrified for her. He is waking up every day and looking for news thatâs the daughter of the minister of sport has been arrested or murdered. Itâs giving him nightmares.
Ilya has just lost his family, and while those guys fucking sucked, they were still his family. Ilyaâs shown to still love them even though theyâve hurt him. He said it killed him that he wasnât able to take care of his dad when he was sick. Now he will never see any of them again.
Heâs been spat out by his home country. And that place also fucking sucked and he dreaded going back to it, but he didnât hate all of it. He never gets to go back. His name is mud. Heâs being trashed as one of the worst traitors in Russian history. Like. Itâs miserable.
He also lost so much of the freedom that he loved in his life in America. He canât go out by himself at all. He needs security at all moments. He has to be careful about what he eats and where he goes and who heâs with.
Shane and Shaneâs parents would be a very limited support system. His dynamic with Shane has never been more uncertain. He feels like he trapped Shane in a relationship Shane may not want. And Ilya very much did not get to meet Yuna and David as the man their son was in love with and whoâd been in a relationship with him for 8 years. No, the first time he ever spoke with the future in laws was a private meeting in the fucking White House that consisted of Shane and Ilya immediately copping to the fact that the relationship was fake and Yuna saying, with extreme pain, âShane. Shane. You two are the face of gay marriage now.â And Shane saying âI KNOW IM WORKING ON ITâ
Theyâre trying to make Ilya feel welcome to the family but itâs. Stilted. Ilya feels like he trapped their fucking child and they must hate him. Twice a week he gets a bewildering call from David Hollander to âcheck inâ and once a month the Hollanders fly down to come see one of his games and take him out for dinner at a restaurant that has to be preapproved for security reasons two weeks in advance. Surely this is for appearances and not because they want a real relationship with him.
Heâs struggling hard. He needs someone. He keeps crashing out to his bodyguard, who has the emotional range of a walnut. Boris needs Ilya to have someone. He is so tired.
Cliff is his ride or die. His boy to the end. In my mind, Ilya straight up lived with Cliff when he first moved to America. Heâs like Ilyaâs big brother, and he more than proved his dedication to his boy when Ilya was in Sochi.
He and Shane talk about it and they decide to tell him as long as Ilya drills into that manâs head that if he tells anyone Ilya may die in real life. Like. Telling anyoneâs a risk but itâs a risk they decide to take. Shane was already kinda worried about Ilya being too isolated after Sochi. He inherently had J.J. since J.J. was in the Ally Squad, and Ilya agreed to let him tell Hayden. Shane knew Ilya needed someone and knew that he and his parents werenât cutting it.
Shane is extremely worried about Ilya in the aftermath of Sochi. He spent a lot of time locked in a small room with Ilya. They couldnât hide from each other much there. And he also knows that he and Ilya donât have the kind of relationship where theyâre emotionally supporting each other. Like. Heâs limited in how much help he can give. Ilya doesnt really love him after all.
They decide to gamble on Marley. Cliff Marleau is now Hollanovâs #1 shipper.
Unlike Hayden, Cliff gets the front load of âI have trapped Shane Hollander in an unwanted relationship but itâs not that I donât want it he doesnât want it. I have never wanted anything more than him. I yearn for his freckles.â
And Cliffâs like. No brother.
Your man wants you.
Iâve seen it.
Cliff Marleau saw the broadcast of them in front of that fucking car. The photo? Gonna win that fucking Pulitzer. Because that love is real. Shane Hollanderâs heart IS already his. #trust
Cliff is hyping Ilya up to woo his fucking man. Heâs intervening because Ilyaâs giving himself panic attacks watching his fucking man play hockey under threat of assassination. He is deleting Twitter off Ilyaâs fucking phone because Russian twitter is. Brutal. He is. Tired. But He Will Stand By His Motherfucking Boy No Matter What. Come At Him Russia. He Will Hold The Line.
Theyâre not risking anyone else. The stakes are just so fucking high. They cannot risk the entire world finding out that their half a billion dollar rescue effort that will affect international relations for decades to come was based on a fake love story. Enough people want them dead as it stands, and their jobs are dependent on the goodwill of their respective government. The NHL can boot them if they fall out of international favor.
The most their teams find out is that they get an inkling that Shane and Ilya are fighting after they fallout because theyâre subjected to their manful pining.
The most I see Shane telling HĂŠlène is that Ilya wanted him to join the Raiders for his own safety after his disastrous last season and that Shane refused. She could tell something had happened, and making this season work was just as important to her as it was to Shane. Like. If Shane fucked this up, he was losing pro hockey for himself. If she fucked up, she may lose it for women as a whole. He didnât think sheâd sell him out to the press and if she wanted to sell him out then sheâd already clocked that heâd had a falling out with Ilya.
But sheâs not finding out that the relationship was fake to begin with. They wonât even let Hayden tell Jackie. This is just such high fucking stakes that they cannot afford to tell anyone beyond whoâs absolutely necessary.