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FUCKING BORIS AND POPCHYK AMIRITE?!

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āāif a painting really works down in your heart and changes the way you see, and think, and feel, you donāt think, āoh, I love this picture because itās universal.ā āI love this painting because it speaks to all mankind.ā Thatās not the reason anyone loves a piece of art. Itās a secret whisper from an alleyway. Psst, you. Hey kid. Yes you.ā Ā
āWhat if our badness and mistakes are the very thing that set our fate and bring us round to good? What if, for some of us, we canāt get there any other way?ā
Boris Pavlikovsky lived a life of chaos; homeless on the streets, a mother who died, a father who neglected him and didnāt care about his wellbeing. He believed his fate to be set on one course, he would have one path: that of destruction. He could do nothing to change it because it was a hole heād never be able to crawl out of; the universe to him was random and that energy was something that surrounded him at all times. He lived by the notion that nothing mattered and no one cared.
But then he meets good. He meets Theo. He meets someone who teaches him the secret of the universe: that laughter is light, light is laughter. Someone who makes him feel like he belongs, who makes him feel safe.Ā
Boris Pavlikovsky believes all of the shit he endured was worth it because it brought him the one good thing, good person, he ever had.Ā
Chaos brought him Theo, and therefore Chaos is worth respecting.Ā
the goldfinch by donna tartt: boris pavlikovsky. āWellāI have to say I personally have never drawn such a sharp line between āgoodā and ābadā as you. For me: that line is often false. The two are never disconnected. One canāt exist without the other. As long as I am acting out of love, I feel I am doing best I know how. But youāwrapped up in judgment, always regretting the past, cursing yourself, blaming yourself, asking āwhat if,ā āwhat if.ā āLife is cruel.ā āI wish I had died instead of.ā Wellāthink about this. What if all your actions and choices, good or bad, make no difference to God? What if the pattern is pre-set? No noāhang onāthis is a question worth struggling with. What if our badness and mistakes are the very thing that set our fate and bring us round to good? What if, for some of us, we canāt get there any other way?
thoughts on Boris and Kotku's relationship? don't you think it was a little asshol-ish for him to leave Theo on his own and start obsessing over that girl, when he very well knew that Theo had mental&suicide issues? what went through Boris' mind?
No, I donāt think he was an asshole for doing that and tbh iām tired of seeing people trash him for it on insta.
First of all, Boris isnāt responsible for Theoās mental health. Yes, they were close, more than friends etc., but stillā constantly monitoring his depression and suicidal thoughts? Thatās just not his job. The person responsible for Theoās wellbeing was Larry. If people want to direct their annoyance and frustration at someone, it should be at him. He was the negligent one. He was the one that was never home, never asked Theo whether or not he was okay, and flat-out ignored it when his 13-15 year old son was blatantly drunk/high/smoking (a huge red flag).
I feel like people forget that Boris was just a kid himself. He struggled with his own mental illnesses, and then had his problems at home to deal with on top of that. Itās actually amazing to me that despite all of that he was still able to be the sensitive, loving, attentive boy that he was. He did so much. He was there for Theo after his nightmares, took care of him when he was blackout-drunk (cleaning his clothes, getting them into bed etc.) and stopped him from killing himself multiple times. Thatās a lot; a lot for anyone to take on, let alone an abused kid whoās exhibited suicidal tendencies before himself. You canāt penalize him for wanting to date someone, everyone has the right to that. He was allowed to have a girlfriend, he was allowed to spend a lot of time with her, and he was allowed to struggle with the act of balancing a relationship while also making sure Theo wasnāt committing or being tormented by debt collectors. Itās not not like he stopped liking or loving Theo once Kotku came along, things just changed. And that happens, thatās realistic, nothing can stay the same for too long. Does it suck that it took the route it did? Hell yeah, but you canāt singularly blame Boris for it. Heās only human, and when this happened he was only a teen.
As for the Boris/Kotku relationship in general, I have my suspicions about its construction and presentation.Ā
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concept: after theo leaves, boris has no one. that first night alone is one of the hardest in his life. itās full of heavy silences that donāt get filled by anything but wind. itās cold; thereās no bodies nearby to warm him. popchyk is gone, theo is gone. within a few months, his father is gone too, and boris is left to fend for himself in the desert like some nomad. no family, no friends. nobody loves him. everyone leaves him. nobody misses boris, theyāre all better off without boris. (and yet, across the country, thereās theo: huddled up in bed reading the idiot in russian and not sleeping because he misses boris so much and canāt get used to being without him either) did i say concept? oh wait i meant fucking canon
you mentioned it in one of your previous replies so now I'm curious: we talk a lot about how Theo represses his sexuality as hell, but what about Boris? how do you think he feels about his (obvious) bisexuality? because I have the feeling he falls into a sort of personal biphobia: he has no problem whatsoever with queer people (Hobie, Sasha, he's a lot chiller than Theo regarding the subject) but when it comes to himself it's like he's suddenly scared to be associated with that kind of sexuality
Yes, I completely agree with the biphobia comment, I do think he represses his bisexuality a bit, itās just not as blatant or severe as, say, Theoās internalized homophobia. While Theo is very clear and conscious of the fact that homosexuality is something he doesnāt want to be associated with (we can see this in all the times he explicitly writes off everything he did with Boris as ānothingā as well as in his blatant fear of things and people that would be considered gay or effeminate), Boris is far more subtle andāin my opinionāunaware of it. On the surface he, of course, seems unbothered, as you said. He tells Theo that it doesnāt matter if Hobie was an āold poofterā or not, and he was also never afraid to physically express his attraction and love. He took the initiative during most of those casesāspooning Theo first, kissing him first etc.ā which leads me to believe he has no issues with physical affection, however āgayā that affection may seem. It doesnāt matter to him, whether heās kissing a guy or a girl, because I think he just perceives it as gratifying a natural sexual attraction, and to him gender has no place or consequence in that.
The repression, I believe, comes into play when considering emotions. After all, you can separate attraction from actual love or affection etc., those two things (while often paired together) do almost reside in completely different realms. My theory is that Boris subconsciously felt the need to reel himself in a bit once his feelings for Theo (not just his attraction) began to really materialize and gain weight. I donāt believe this is something he would have ever actively chosen to do, just something that happened of its own accord, without him really realizing. I think the thought of actually, genuinely, loving someone was terrifying enough to him, let alone loving a member of the same sex. For as incredibly progressive and all inclusive Boris (for the most part) isā there are some things that are just ingrained in the psyche, things that take root in childhood and never really dissipate without proper addressing. Iām sure Boris was exposed to homophobia throughout his youth (undoubtedly made worse by his father), so even if he didnāt have any qualms with the overall concept of homosexuality/bisexuality, I do think that the core issue is as you mentioned: bi is just not something he can reconcile himself as being. Itās fine from a certain distance, fine in his friends, coworkers, the people he loves, but when it comes to himselfāhe just doesnāt really know what to do with that bit of info.
But anyway, the why/how of his biphobia doesnāt matter so much as the knowledge that it is indeed existent within him, and that it does hinder his relationship with Theo. I mean, why do you think he is able to tell just about everyone else that he loves them (people who he sometimes doesnāt even know that well and/or hasnāt spent much time with), and yet canāt tell Theo (the one person itās obvious he cares the most about) the same? Heās so verbal when it comes to everyone and everything except for Theo, thereās an evident block there, something pulling him back from going all the way. And itās only the āI love youā that he canāt say, because he has no problem addressing the fact that they did sexual things (heās even the one to bring it up when theyāre adults), but he just canāt openly acknowledge that they had romantic feelings for each other, that what he felt was something more than a physical need. Heās afraid of the finality that would come with an open admission like that; I donāt think heās ready to perceive himself as bi, and so the consequences of talking about actual love are just too weighty and risky to him. So instead he deflects, he does a good job of pretending like heās indifferent, like Theoās the only one that was in too deep. In fact, he explicitly says to Theo āI think maybe you thought it was something elseā (in reference to their sex), as in: youāre the one that feels this way, not me. Youāre the gay/bi one, not me. He says this even though he was the one to bring the topic up in the first place.
I do also think it was biphobia, and the subconscious need for heteronormativity, that shaped his relationship with Kotku. I read it as Borisā attempt at running away, distancing himself from something he was beginning to sense was dangerous. The intense interdependency growing between him and Theo was just too much for him, too strong and unknown. He probably felt rooted, too tied up in one personāwhich is something we know heās not used to and is therefore somewhat afraid of (remember, his entire childhood was plagued with losing people and having to say goodbye). This is why I think he threw himself so deeply (and quickly) into the fling with Kotku. It was a very rushed and fervent thing, an emergency distraction he had to craft for himself. Spending time with her, instead of Theo, became an obsession within itself, which is really telling.
But yes, in short, thereās more than enough evidence to tell us he harbors a certain amount of biphobia, and does repress his bisexuality. Again, I donāt think itās something he is aware of, or would actively choose, but itās there nonetheless and shapes quite a bit of his actions.
Mmmmmmā¦.. Talk to me about how Theo Decker taking the painting from the gallery wasnāt even an active choice for him⦠How he was a scared child, in shock, and it was something he did without deciding to⦠An act of pure, unthinking instinct⦠How he then keeps it secret and hidden for many, many years⦠How in his heart and mind and darkest moments the painting becomes a shining beacon of goodness and beauty in the world, reminding him of the kindness of his mother and the magic of beautiful things⦠How the painting is objectively worthless for him to own and as the years go by, becomes something stressful and damning⦠Hide it, hide it, keep it safe and never look at it. Shrodingerās Masterpiece. How in the wrong hands it becomes something criminal and cheap, a bartering tool. Talk to me about that moment in New York where Boris tells Theo he knew, all along he knew, because Theo had TOLD him, shown him, had unwrapped it from itās newspaper cover and revealed to him the part of him that no one else knew about, and said ālook at how beautiful this is, and it is just mine. But I want to show you, and nobody else.ā How even then, after being reminded, Theo couldnāt properly remember. How he fixates on one girl, one he barely knows let alone has touched, and how he keeps a whole side of himself repressed and hidden in a storage unit no one even knows about. Talk to me about the guilt that Theo feels, later, on his own in Amsterdam, at his lowest point. Talk to me about the inherent queerness of the unreliable narrator and the space in between, the discord between what we read Theo as thinking, how he presents himself to others, and the way the other characters perceive him. Talk to me about a tiny, almost invisible gold chain around the foot of a bird, and the act of freeing yourself from something you canāt even see.
sometimes i get caught up in how those quiet moments must have been for theo and boris; moments lying on their backs with the cool sheets against their bare skin, staring at theoās ceilingāhands stretched above their heads examining their fingers with wide eyes. moments on the floor of the living room, where itās so hot outside itās simply unbearable; with the fan whirring in the background and the tv on mute (gone ignored in favour of lazily dozing, boris fiddling with the hem of theoās shirt, taking advantage of how stoned they both are). moments in the dead of night, shoes dragging through the dirt, an endless expanse of desert stretching out in front of themāa bottle of vodka passed between them, no words spoken, feelings known but buried. everything must have seemed so infinite.
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Many reviews that Iāve read about The Goldfinch deemed the Wind, Sun, and Stars chapter irrelevant but as a former 13 orĀ 14-year-old seeking company, consideration, and understanding from someone (or anyone at that time, really),Ā I knew how important having someone like Boris by your side. Someone who wonāt really ask you whatās wrong and rather make you laugh until you want toĀ ā have thrown yourself in front of a car to make it stopā. Sure, it wasnāt entirely a healthy relationship (they both knew that as adults lol) but it helped keep Theo alive long enough to have his realization at the end.Ā
Adults used to tell me whatever I was feeling was going to pass eventually. When I became a college student, some of it did and some of it didnāt. And so did Theoās. In many ways, I understood how the Vegas chapter shaped him, Boris, and the absence of narratives from the many other people in Theoās life. Life is sometimes like that āyouāre dragged on your own in the middle of fuck nowhere after having lost the most important person in your life and funny enough, you get compensated with a real relationship that will stick with you (maybe as a lifeline, a friend, a brother, or a lover).Ā Ā
Perhaps, thatās why I loved that chapter so much. It was long, dragging, and sometimes seemed futile, much like Theo and Borisā life. Their lives seemed as empty, cold, and grim as a desert at night but what was important is that they had someone by their side, to help them laugh, cry, or get drunk at the absurdity that is this life.Ā
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so like.. if boris = the moon right,, then the part where theo goes smth like "hey does the moon look diff indonesia" n boris is like "nah it looks the same everywhere" then do u think... that this is a sort of symbolism we get later on when we see that like the moon, when boris reappears later in the novel in a different time and place, he's the same old curt and reckless boris theo knows? and that sense of familiarity, like theo's r/s w the painting, is unchanging and comforting?? i cant
ahhhh omg yes
I hadnāt even considered that but itās a perfect parallel considering that theyāre both constants in each otherās lives. The sun and moon both disappear for a while each day but they always come back in the end, just as Boris and Theo seem inextricably drawn together, no matter how much time or distance stands between them.Ā
I just saw a post calling the goldfinch a "reddie fanfic" brb I'm gonna go kill myself now
Yep!! I just saw. I donāt want to have to say this more than once, but knowing tumblr I probably will:
Do not conflate RichieĀ Tozier with Boris PavlikovskyĀ
Do not conflate Eddie Kaspbrak with Theo DeckerĀ
Do not conflate reddie with boreoĀ
And do not conflate It with The Goldfinch
These are two completely different books with completely different characters.Ā Finn Wolfhard being in both their movie adaptions doesnāt make them the same, nor does it give you the right to reduce a Pulitzer prize winning novel into aĀ āfanficā of the other.Ā

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I also like how Boris in the book was just as appealing to other characters as he was to the readers. Girls at school crushes on him, Theo loved him, random friends of Xandra flirted with him (ew). He has this lovability and it jumps off the pages. Too bad his own papa couldnāt see it š
He does, and itās not (like some people *cough* like to claim it is) the same type of deceptive charm or charisma that characters like Larry have, for example. I like to think so many people flock to Boris because they can just sense that he is good, good and luminous at his core. He doesnāt even have to try most of the time, heās just himself. His amicable, cheery, somewhat enticingly dangerous, selfāand it just magnetizes people to him.
And yeah, itāll always pain me that his own father couldnāt see that he was a good kid, a resilient and big-hearted kid that loved and forgave him despite never being given a reason to.Ā