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so you're telling me the fifa world cup is all men? its all men's teams? and so is the superbowl? and all the sports teams that states are known for and make copious amounts of merch for are also men's teams? and only 5 women have ever entered formula one since its inception in 1950 and only two of them were able to compete? and this is normal? its acceptable?
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My first rule of feminism is to simply not believe men and their institutions. I don't believe men's stories about the creation of the universe, their religions are bullshit, what the fuck do men know about the creation of life. I don't believe men when they tell me they are women, what the fuck do men know about womanhood. Internalizing this disbelief of men is one of the most important things I have ever done.
And it has to be disbelief. If you try to instill hatred and disgust in yourself, you are setting yourself up for failure, because men are people. And people are complex and varied. Men aren't some evil unknowable creature, they are capable of kindness and competency, and that will disprove whatever foundation you had for your hatred. That's why feminism can't just be founded on manhating. Disbelief keeps you questioning, keeps you sharp. And it makes you realize how little men truly know.
as women become more bold, men become more insecure and lash out at any woman they canât control to keep the rest of us in line. this dynamic doesnât change no matter what qualifiers you slap on them.
You should read Backlash by Susan Faludi.
You can read Backlash here!
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âWhy is it that, when I say, âgender is a caste system,â people hear death threats? Why, when I say âonly females have the right to define femalehood,â do people react with rage? Radical feminists are often accused of violence. Some transactivists go as far as to say we âhave blood on our hands.â Again, this is a censorship tactic. Accusing radical groups of violence is the easiest way to demonize them, and make everyone turn against them. That is the sole function of the label âTERF.â The harsh reality is that virtually all transphobic hate crimes are committed by males. Not radical feminists, not gender abolitionist women â males. Males who have never even heard of radical feminism! So I want everyone whoâs fallen for this anti-radfem fear-mongering to think long and hard about the implications of this censorship campaign. When we silence the women who call out male violence, rather than confront the actual males committing the violence, we fail to make the world safer for trans people. We fail them miserably. Protecting trans people from transphobic hate crimes can only happen once we stop blaming females for inciting male violence, and start Naming the Agent instead.â
â Radical Feminist Alicen Grey
Oh Alicen weâre really in it now
I feel that the idea of being penetrated is so married to having a vagina, perhaps even more so than femininity and femaleness are. people cannot conceive of a woman who just doesnât want to be entered by anything (toys, fingers and tongue included) without it making her sexually dysfunctional in some way.
no one bats an eye if a man says he doesnât want to be penetrated or have his nipples touched or something. of course, thatâs natural, heâs a man. but when a woman says it, itâs weird and wrong, because sheâs a woman, of course she must desire sex in that way.
I feel itâs just another layer of biological essentialism/determinism in the same way that âwomen must be naturally feminine and any deviation therefrom is dysfunctionalâ is.
I feel so insane about ai. I've had face-to-face conversations with people who use it for therapy, who use it to calculate the safety of pill interactions, who use it for all their emails and grant applications and legal documents and academic papers and finance sheets and for every single question they have about the world, and if you tell them about the ecological costs they just laugh and say "I guess I've used a lot of water." and I've been in multiple gatherings of 10+ people where I'm THE ONLY PERSON who doesn't use chatgpt. it's turning me into a ranting raving pariah, because how don't you people see??? why don't you understand??????? this bullshit didn't exist five years ago, you absolutely do not need it, and it is destroying everything
almost everything men say they love about their culture is actually reliant on the labour of women. thatâs why itâs so easy for them to feel proud and protective over it. taking care of elders and not putting them in care homes? the care is always done almost exclusively by female family members. the yummy traditional food? cooked by women. the fun events and gatherings? organised and hosted by the women. men love taking credit for their culture but in reality they barely participate in the actual hard work, they just get to sit back and enjoy all the benefits of it. itâs a scam đ¤ˇđťââď¸
women are the creators of culture forever and always. who created the stories the told to their children? came up with the songs they sang? who invented those recipes? how many times has innovative art or music or writing been stolen from women by men? hairstyles? women. fashion? maybe the companies are run by men, but it's still women driving innovation. events and gatherings? women. who's making those traditions happen? women.
it's always been women.
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i've always believed the fixation on 'mean girls' specifically is because it's a violation of gender roles first and foremost--a 'mean boy' in high school is a regular high schooler. the internet isn't ready for this take yet though so be careful
Everyone woman who wants kids, specifically sons, or a husband should be required to volunteer at a senior women's center or a homeless women's shelter at least 5 times.
You'll notice that almost all of the women there have husbands, boyfriends, brothers, and sons. They are not being taken care of by husbands who kept them from education, they are not supported by boyfriends who are unemployed, they are dealing with property disputes with brothers, they are taking care of adult sons in their 20s/30s. Women with adjacent adult men in their lives are almost exclusively doing worse off than women without.
hate defending (real) terrible women because people just go âso you think she did nothing wrong just because sheâs a woman?â like no i think sheâs awful but i also think you wouldnât be calling her a cunt and making rape threats if she wasnât a woman
Imagine being married to one of the most beautiful women on earth and trying to reduce her value to cooking and cleaning and being a mother. Men don't want partners in life they want housekeepers.
Men actively seek out independent women to try and chain them to the house and tie them down and trap them with unplanned kids they donât really want
Men actively seek out liberal/leftist women and try and influence them towards the center then even further towards republican/conservatism
Men actively seek out atheist/agnostic women and try and get them to join or convert to their religion
Men actively seek out lesbians and female leaning bisexuals and try to turn them straight
Men love nothing more than pushing womenâs boundaries, making us uncomfortable, not taking no for an answer, feeling like theyâve somehow won or conquered a woman, changed her or dominated her in a meaningful way
lefties will say the best thing for sex workers is to open brothels and legalize it and then when you point out how countries that have brothels have high rates of sex trafficking and rape, they have genuinely nothing to say in return. unless its to center themselves and say that their barista job is basically the same as rape
"Making vanilla bean cafe lattes is the same thing as being anally raped by 6 strangers a day" is really when I realised all seriousness, morality and intellectualism had vacated left-wing ideaologies.
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they're still arguing about surrogacy on twitter
the reason surrogacy warrants particular scrutiny, aside the fact that its roots are literally chattel slavery lol, is that it is a contractual arrangement premised on the basically total surrender of bodily autonomy. it transforms a human body into a site of continuous, high risk labor with consequences that cannot be paused or meaningfully mitigated
can a surrogate safely "quit" in any real sense? can they safely get an abortion? can they quit after 4 months? can they quit after 9 months? do they get to clock out after 40 hours a week? do they get breaks? do they get a union?
in what world is it a leftist position to defend 24/7 labor
#SmokeBreaksForSurrogates
its a leftist position to fight for bodily autonomy, the right to choose includes the right to not be pregnant, as well as the right to get pregnant. This same argument about "protecting workers" often argues against sex work, saying women dont deserve the right to choose what labor they want to provide when it goes against someone else's ideals. Surrogates deserve to be protected, but that doesnt mean they deserve to have the choice taken away from them
If you want to read more from someone who has experience being a surrogate you can read this speech
Surrogacy as motherhood - the autonomous decision to bear a baby and hand it to someone else to parent. The act of surrogacy is love and car
When we limit a womanâs right to choose to be a surrogate, we are assuming that she lacks the capacity or intelligence to make the decision for herself. A choice to be a surrogate must be offered freely and without coercion. If we argue that the risks of surrogacy are too high, we are removing the decision-making power from the woman and assuming that she doesnât know what is best for herself or her family. And yet, the women who are surrogates are better informed of the risks and consequences than anyone else.
@iam-the-wild i think your heart is in the right place, but that youâre really missing the point
Youâre looking at this from a perspective of pro-choice reproductive rights on the womenâs part, which is good in general but is not the actual problem weâre discussing with surrogacy
Itâs not choosing to be a surrogate thatâs wrong, those women are either desperate or trying to do something kind. itâs the intent to pay another human being to rent their reproductive capacity that is wrong - no one needs a child that is biologically theirs, and only people with a slave owner mentality think its their right to buy one
Surrogacy is not a right or freedom that needs to be protected, itâs an act of reproductive and economic exploitation, and even when it is a choice freely made and compensated for (which it very often is not, in many places it is coerced or even forced, and it is always underpaid) the women involved face a tremendous physical risk to their bodies and their lives
Pregnancy is a nine month long 24/7 full body experience that is one of the most dangerous things you can do. Maternal mortality rights are on the rise and higher now than theyâve been in decades. There is always the very real chance of disability or death for women who carry to term, no matter how slim
With the harm it can cause in mind, much like the nordic model that criminalizes buying sex but not selling it, surrogacy should absolutely be harshly restricted. You shouldnât be able to legally inflict the harm of pregnancy on a person for money, and it should be a crime to try and do so. Consent canât be meaningfully purchased.
And I think your argument really falls apart even more in the second half
Because Iâm not by any means saying women arenât smart enough or capable enough to be able to make the choice to be surrogates. Iâm saying those choices are not made in a vacuum, and are rarely as truly voluntary as they would like you to believe. People knowingly make decisions against their best interests and well being every single day. We restrict things that cause great harm not because we think people are too stupid to know better, but to protect them from people who donât care about their safety. This is basics of society level stuff, laws and order and public health and welfare.
Anyone who wants to can make the choice to do hardcore party drugs or drink and drive or do target practice in your back yard, but those things are illegal because they can literally kill you.
Furthermore Itâs illegal to buy someoneâs organs on the black market, even if you really need a kidney and theyâre willing to sell you one. Itâs also illegal to keep someone as a slave and not pay them for their work, even if they donât seem to mind it and wouldnât try to escape. Itâs illegal to sell crack to addicts, even if they feel like they need it more than anything.
If women really want to make money off of their reproductive capacity, im sure there are still many places in the world where they would be able to do so and people would be willing to look the other way to purchase a child, no matter how unethical and harmful it would be to both the mother and the baby.
No matter where you go there are always people willing to hurt women for money
they're still arguing about surrogacy on twitter
the reason surrogacy warrants particular scrutiny, aside the fact that its roots are literally chattel slavery lol, is that it is a contractual arrangement premised on the basically total surrender of bodily autonomy. it transforms a human body into a site of continuous, high risk labor with consequences that cannot be paused or meaningfully mitigated
can a surrogate safely "quit" in any real sense? can they safely get an abortion? can they quit after 4 months? can they quit after 9 months? do they get to clock out after 40 hours a week? do they get breaks? do they get a union?
in what world is it a leftist position to defend 24/7 labor
