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beautifulscreaminglady

what op said

nomanitas

We agreed we all change. Better or worse, we change together.

desertfangs

My favorite thing about Eliot Spencer is how invested he gets in whatever job/role he’s doing for the con. He has to play a caterer? He will give you a gourmet menu and poach some pears for dessert. He has to play a minor league baseball player? He will hit a home run and he will be excited when the local deli names a sandwich after him. He has to play a police officer? He will make Hardison respond to a call that’s nearby because there might be kids in that house. Eliot commits.

toomuchtoomuchtomention

that’s so interesting because he is ALWAYS freaking out at how deeply Hardison commits to his characters.

onyxbird

I think there are key differences in how Eliot and Hardison over-invest in their roles, which is why Eliot fusses at Hardison about it without equating it to what he does himself. (Note: I’m focusing on original series only here.)

Eliot gets over-absorbed because he gets really into what his character does (chef, baseball player, etc.) and loses focus on what the con is trying to accomplish, which isn’t helpful but tends to add authenticity to his individual role. Eliot’s main risk is getting so immersed that he forgets it’s just a con and tries to be that persona rather than doing just enough to fool the mark. He may have some broad-strokes backstory in his head in case someone asks, but his main way to sell his character is just to play the role to the hilt in the current moment. (Prior to the team, he didn’t have a hacker or do long cons, so his main grifting option was to keep things simple, play the role, improv as needed, and hope no one asked too many questions before he finished the job. And be prepared to punch his way out if they did.)

Hardison doesn’t forget he’s playing a role. The part he overdoes is building an “interesting” (often meaning complicated) role and tending to over-act, which tends reduce the authenticity of his performance. The obvious example is “The Ice Man Job,” but it’s the same thing with the overall con in “The Gold Job”–he’s thought out every backstory detail and how to deliver it to the mark, but he lays on the perfectly constructed backstory too hard without reading when to dial back the complexity or exposition. (Prior to the team, it’s implied that he did most of his criminal activity on-line rather than in-person, so the exhaustive planning and documentation was his practical grifting approach.)

If you assign Eliot to be a chef, he’s gonna be a chef. He’ll get distracted from the con by the fact that they’re running out of onions and he just can’t get the flavor of this sauce quite right, but everyone around him will believe he’s a chef. If you ask him where he went to culinary school, he’ll glare at you and maybe throw out some sparse details (trusting Hardison to back it up if anyone tries to check it)–dig too far, and he’s probably gonna be relying on dodging questions or having Hardison in his ear feeding him backstory details.

If you assign Hardison to be a chef, he’s going to have thought out and documented every detail of his backstory, researched his character’s favorite recipes so he can discuss them in detail, etc. You ask him something–anything–about his character and he’ll answer in such detail that your head will spin. But if you tell him the kitchen’s down to its last onion and ask what he wants you to do about that, he’ll be caught completely by surprise and flummoxed about what to do (unless Eliot is in his ear telling him who to send on a supply run to and what menu items to scratch in the meantime).

toomuchtoomuchtomention

@onyxbird, I love this distinction, thank you!! What I’m hearing from your lovely meta is that Eliot gets so stressed about Hardison overcompensating. if you want to lie, stick as close to the truth as possible, don’t give out too many explanations, and act casual. BE casual. But Hardison has to constantly prove how smart he is, how prepared he is, how well he fits in–so he automatically stands out. Online you need receipts all the time, but in real life you can trust non verbal cues.

exuberantocean

Can I point out?

Hardison’s grifting in the style of a dedicated D&D player.

Eliot is grifting in the style of a man with a past he’s ashamed over.

gnar-slabdash

Oh no

The difference is Hardison is just making up characters. It’s fiction to him, here’s what a millionaire diamond smuggler would be like, here’s a fun adventure story to tell.

But Eliot is discovering different people he could have been. In another life he could have been the minor league baseball star, the country singer, the chef, the gym teacher. And just for a little whole he gets to be that other person, maybe a better person, maybe a happier person. Of course he gets wrapped up in it, and of course it’s hard for him to have to stop being that version of himself. What if things had been different. What if he hadn’t done what he’d done. What if he could just be this instead.

missed-oblivion

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@gnar-slabdash how very fucking dare you be so so correct and break my heart like this 😭😭😭

hedgiwithapen

I want to point out also that when Hardison has No Time To Prepare– like mile high job, or bank shot job, he does great! he goes with the flow, a little nervously, but he grifts solidly. A little awkward, but normal-human-levels of awkwardness, people go “oh yeah, Teme the violinist is just Like That” he gets the mark’s company to throw him a birthday party! he wins a court case! It’s only when he has time to plan ahead of time that things get a little iffy– the difference between a stilted, scripted skit and solid improv. you assign Hardison to be a chef, and you get a mess. but If Someone needs to be a chef and Eliot’s not there and you shove Hardison in the kitchen, I believe he could make it…at least long enough to channel Eliot, shout ‘who put raw onions in this?’ and run while everyone’s distracted.

operahousebookworm

I don’t think Hardison trusts his ability to read people. He got really used to hiding behind computers where reading people wasn’t even part of the equation, and of course he had those two big jobs where he messed up on that front. So when planning he doesn’t incorporate points of flexibility where he just runs with it because he thinks that’s a tool he doesn’t have.

But of course, Nana taught him how to talk to people, and he’s learned a whole lot from the team. He absolutely has that ability, as long as he’s not getting in his own head about the lack.

ylvalev

#I think it’s also important to remember#that Hardison is like 10-20 years younger than the rest of the crew#he doesn’t have anything like the same sort of experience as the rest of them#especially not with having to face the marks in brick space#and the other four absolutely forget that#because of how very smart he is#but Hardison’s default social strategy#isn’t charming the way Sophie and Eliot are#he makes a joke#he is over the top and melodramatic#and makes sure no one takes him too seriously#so that they know he’s safe#and who doesn’t like to laugh?#but that means he grifts the same way#(which does make his overact in a way that’s insincere)#but now the hell else is he supposed to do it?#and they never try to show him how#because again#he’s SO GOOD at what he does know how to do#but it’s deeply frustrating on every rewatch#how little we get to linger in Hardison’s character#in comparison to everyone else#eliot spencer#alec hardison#leverage#meta appreciation#long post for ts (via prev)

faejilly

#possibly related to his impulse to joke/diffuse/make them not take him seriously/think him safe is that he is a tall and fit black man #I feel like that might also be slightly relevant to how he deals with people while actively committing crimes right in front of them (via @ylvalev)

scotchiegirl

It boggles my mind thinking about how good Eliot is at reading body language. I mean, just remembering that post about the moment in Nigerian Job where Eliot knocks Hardison's legs out of the way but steps gracefully over Parker's legs and how that was telegraphing "I'm safe to be around" to both of them in their own body languages, and there's a similar moment in The Tap-Out Job right before Eliot shows his knowledge of boxing by having Parker and Hardison spar while he coaches them:

Eliot: Let me show you something. (slapping Hardison on the shoulder) Hardison, come here.

Eliot: (guides Parker into position with a hand to the waist) Can I borrow you for a second?

I mean this is exactly the same thing. Hardison he can tussle with and frequently does to show he can pull his punches (both verbally and physically) but Parker hasn't reached play-fighting stage just yet so he's still gentle side first with her. They've obviously progressed to a level of closeness where Eliot feels comfortable guiding Parker, teaching her, and also feels comfortable that she'll go along with his demonstration, but he still asks. It's the kind of perfunctory ask where you're sure the answer is yes, but it's still an ask. It's just a beautiful little moment and I love it.

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three-blogs-in-a-trenchcoat

I love how Leverage went

Here's the cat burglar. She wears comfy clothes and has zero social skills. She has sex appeal but only if you're into a very specific type of woman, and crucially she has zero idea she has it. She probably doesn't know what an innuendo is.

Here's the hacker. He's a Black nerd, and also the most moral character of the bunch. He's a nerd but also not socially awkward; in fact, he's the second best at grifting, right after the person who's been doing it for decades.

Here's the muscle. In his heart of hearts, he is a chef. He is tough and manly but he uses that to look out for the working class and children and everyone else the system leaves behind. He's feared by politicians and he reminds his friend to tip the delivery person.

Here's the femme fatale. She's over forty years old, and she's the one seducing the mark. She's the heart of the team. Her calling is to be a director. She loves attending her own funeral.

Here's the mastermind. He's the only one who doesn't start out as a career criminal. He manipulates his own crew, kills two people after promising them he won't, and takes deals behind their back. He was in seminary school.

Also, here's their nemesis. He's Mark Sheppard.

b0rtney

Had a friend express worry that Eliot Spencer gets injured so often in leverage and I had to reassure them: no no. U dont get it his old job was "getting the shit beat out of you constantly for the sake of people who dont care if u live or die," and then afterward he had to drag himself home, patch himself up, and do it all over again tomorrow. NOW he gets minor cuts and bruises (usually), and the moment the job is done his whole clingy crime family gets to go "oh that looks like it hurts let's get you some bacitracin and bruise cream!! Do you wanna cook dinner to feel better?" And then they all make sure he is never in any true mortal danger and he always gets a say in what he does for the job. This is like a working dog who got house privileges and now enjoys fat naps in front of the fire and fancy wet food after his long day guarding the flock. Hes doing great actually.

beautifulscreaminglady

"Sophie's not allowed to be the mom friend that's icky to me! I don't like that!"

Sophie made her damn self the mom friend when she leaned across Nate to feel Parker's forehead for a fever and I will die on this hill

rewatching episode 1 of leverage and dear god hardison and eliot wanted each other SO bad in the scene where hardison watches elito kick four guys asses in three seconds and then eliot watches hardison get into the high security vault door and they both stare at each other and smile

#leverage #alec hardison #eliot spencer #leverage ot3 #parker isnt actually mentioned but shes there in spirit

alexxuun

They share one brain cell in the entire spiderverse. Different people, same font.

Trust me guys. This is in the next movie. I was in the writing room. (Lie)

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dragon-in-a-fez

personally I'm annoyed by the socioeconomic conditions that made words like "unalive" necessary but simultaneously impressed by the linguistic adaptations young people have made to continue talking about important things while subject to those conditions and I think if you can't hold both of those thoughts in your head you might just be old man yelling at cloud

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beif0ngs

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water---damage

Dr. Gachey with foxglove, 1890

dovewithscales

Some of Van Gogh’s best work was done during a period of his life that he spent in a hospital being treated for his mental health problems. I could be wrong but I think Starry Night was among those.

This is consistently the case. Creators tend to do their best work when they are in a healthy place and receiving proper treatment and not being self destructive in their efforts to cope. Go figure.

All our experiences, good and bad, inform what we create, but suffering is not the price of great art. Suffering is what prevents artists from completing great art.

redshoesnblueskies

(I bring to mind this @tkingfisher / Ursula Verson quote about once a week <3)

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saphushia

been catching up on hermitcraft and i really like the lore tango's making for do3,,, i like how it sounds like within the story he's just some rich old guy sending adventurers to their doom. type of guy to have a taxidermied ravager in his mansion and tell you longwinded dramatized stories about how he hunted it in his younger days

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brytning

When I need to remind myself to put something on the grocery list and I don't have my phone on me, I use the Scrabble tile magnets on the fridge. But sometimes I don't have enough of the right letters and have to get creative.

brytning

The list is getting longer and we are running out of letters.

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