Welcome back!!! And I thing this comunity of J2 tinhat needs you, because your absence made me have doubts.
So now I'm starting to have doubts about J2, and that kind of scares me. I've been a J2 fan (tinhat) for years, and some things that are happening these days are making me doubt that JA and JP are a secret couple. So, when I saw Bruce's latest post on Instagram (wow, his account isn't private anymore), I saw a lot of pictures of him and Jared, and they seemed pretty close (they were hugging, holding hands). I mean, I would compare them to JA and JP (a little bit).These things are starting to scare me, because I'm entering a dark place in my mind. I sincerely want to believe that J2 are still J2, but sometimes I hear a voice that brings up arguments against them (like the ones I listed).
Please please please prove me wrong (if that's the case).
Hey!!!😊 Sorry for disappearing! *Puppy eyes * (I could try, because the master at it is JP ^^ )
It's been a busy months 😬
I hope you and everyone here had a awesome christmas!
Now going to the crisis alert :(
Bruce, he's the one who went to the Music and Arts Festival, "burning man" a few months ago with JP,right?
Is it true that I read he immediately made his account private, because apparently GC and JP were getting bombarded(?), if I remember correctly. What I'm curious about is how old are those photos you mentioned? the ones of the kisses and holding hands?
I find it just as curious that he made his account public again... Given the circumstances..
I’ve seen Anson act cozy with JP several times too, kisses, slaps on the ass, holding him by the waist. Idk. But I also think JP is the kind of friend and man who allows others to be affectionate with him, he seems so sweet and affectionate and caring with his friends (and family) and lets others be the same with him.
And some of JP's friends look like JA... I hope you understand me 😉 not in a negative way, but in a positive way 😁, *wink wink* We could call it "convenience" (?)
The smoke and mirrors have been quite intense in these last few years, more than ever.
And it's curious that JP acts this way with his loved ones but not with JA, I find it interesting. It's like the kisses on the cheek that JP always gives his male friends, but we never SAW him give one to JA. I mean, basically what we have today with both of them together are just the panels, and they are a kind of show, so it's not like they're giving us more direct evidence,like before.
It's what they want us to see, and the interesting part is what we don't see.
And I think they are also 'cleaning up rumors' and "mistakes". Creating a good dose of confusion. I think I've never seen so many confused fans haha.
I have been researching for a few months, the lyrics of RC's songs, and the photos in chronological order. Everything post-spn, because it is the period where there are the most leaks and the most confusion and was the controversial period.
I know that interpreting songs is quite subjective; it's like interpreting poems or abstract art. But often there are clues about which direction to go, right?
JA once said that the songs he write (I guess with Steve and I suspect with JP? helping to better adapt the lyrics) revolved around the (gloomy) world of entertainment.
It's his way of escaping, he says it in a song.(That when he is far from his home and family, he feels sad, and that he is only complete when he arrives home, with his other half. That's how I interpreted it.)We also know that there are several romantic songs that the tinhats have noticed. We also know that J2 knows that the tinhats have analyzed the lyrics before. So for J2, it was kind of a red flag. But they hide behind interpretations; they wouldn't be solid-solid evidence.
But in this fandom, even now, not much information is lost.
You just have to start putting the puzzle together, and the pieces will fit on their own.
So as I was telling you, in the last two RC albums, which are the ones I have been analyzing, there are allusions to J2, their relationship, and the beards.
And clearly, and above all, some lyrics criticizing DH in a 'raw' way.
I won't deny that the third album pushed me out of my comfort zone; there are a couple of lyrics that I don't like the tone, and I suspect (and hope) that they are directed at DH."You sold me (happiness) " and you convinced me ("with those eyes") it sounds very violent. Cold.But this song makes me doubt, because everywhere it says that someone else wrote it, and I searched and read the lyrics of that musician and they are in the same style. So I don’t know if it was convenient to say it was someone else, or if it really was that musician who wrote it.I think it was DH who convinced J2 to be JA's (wife)beard. They could have perfectly changed her at the very beginning, but they didn’t, already knowing how things really were with her (because they had known her for a few years already, unlike GC).
And,a couple of others songs seem like that, as if I were reading a dialogue between an internal and external conflict.
Because JA spoke recently at one of the last conventions of this year that exactly in those years (2021/2022, which is when he must have written the last album) when he was in a series, he had a crisis.
He was thinking about his family's situation and about changing careers,paraphrasing what he said.
And what a coincidence, at that time it was noticeable that he was on bad bad terms with DH, to the point that they couldn't even hide it in public.
I'm going to drop some hints I possibly found in his lyrics:
- In one of them (2021) he talks about another person (I'm sure it's JP), who tells him to CHANGE OR WAIT.
Starting from there, the following year (2022), JP in a podcast with his friend MR talks about how they need to CHANGE.
Immediately after, in 2023 is when several changes happen! Including that J2 takes vacation at the same time, and the same rest time. Coincidence?
I think the change is on the side of how they were living their life, the beards, etc. I'll explain it better further down.
-star gun=walker (JP a verse, and the last GC)
JP is full of star tattoos. And for me, the last two he got on his wrist that match GC obviously weren’t for her, but it just so happens that at a convention of these two, GC will talk about the meaning of her stars, which I think JP "borrowed". To me, the two stars could represent J2. (I don’t know if it’s just me, but does his left arm, the one with his wedding ring 😉, have thematic tattoos related to JA? And on the right one, Texas?)
-It's not an 'if', but a 'when'. Referring, for me, to JP's bearding.
It so happens that JP, a year or years later, got a tattoo of the 'If'.
We know, because JP said it, that the 'f' (in italics) stands for 'forte' (in Italian) in music. We know that JP knows how to play instruments and enjoys it; he seems to take it more as a hobby, unlike JA. We've also seen him play pianos, guitars, violins, flutes; I think in one photo I saw a cello. JA has said several times that he is good at music, and he has said that he sings like an angel (and by the way, there's a song—I listened to it at the time, and he sings amazingly).What happens is that he seems shy about it.
But JP said (last year) that his 'wife' is the one who is really deeply involved in music. It's obvious who he's referring to. (It's like when JP has been saying this year that his 'wife' has been very busy working 👀)
Going back to the tattoo, and this is just a suspicion of mine, the i (which, if I saw correctly, is italic) reminded me of complex numbers. That is, real number + imaginary number, right? Something that fits perfectly with his situation. The real (which no one sees because they take care of it) + the imaginary, that is, the bearding. So, all of this is my theory, right? The same i, referring to something he loves, mathematics, and the f of music, which could be about him or referring to JA.
-And the last song gave me hope that J2 are still married.For me, it even seems like some kind of 'message' to the tinhats (?)to try to leave them alone, to not always say where they are, as has happened in the past.
Raven (poor ravens 😔, they are beautiful, but they have a bad reputation) for me it refers to DH, and some people with bad intentions who surround them. And the one who drinks wine and ran away, for me it is DH. And... She ran away to CC. JA has uploaded some photo of DH with alcohol in hand or within reach.
So, I don't really know what to think of that third RC album, it's only two or three songs that confuse me. But we also know that they know that tinhats have read them and tried to interpret them from the beginning.So,idk.
Regarding the photos,I was comparing them, and it has given me a pattern and information about a possible 'modus operandi.' Basically the same pattern as always but with implementations.
As I was telling you before, J2 likes wordplay. I'm going to leave another one here because I found it interesting. Let's place ourselves last year (I think, or this year) when J2 were on a panel, talking about the nicknames they gave each other. JP started off by saying that he called JA 'Jack' (like compressing his name and first surname). Then it was JA's turn (to me this was a wordplay. But since I don’t know much English, I’m not sure if I’m getting it wrong, so I researched it), he said, 'Jared is too...' * and left it hanging, glancing at JP with a smirk 😏, and JP was looking at him somewhat alert. (This is how I interpret the whole exchange between them). Now the 'too' (I researched it, but maybe I did it wrong) doesn’t mean of excess,and also? depends on the context?
Because maybe JA is already telling us that JP is also Jack?😏
And he said it in the present tense 😉
Also, the Jack's in JP bar (J2), that apostrophe, couldn't it also be one of those hints suggesting both Jacks? Another play on words? Because it's always been said and then confirmed that it was named that way because of JA, but what if maybe it's for both?
They continue doing bearding, but each is focusing differently, for obvious reasons.They continue doing some sort of mearding with mishit regarding anything related to SPN.
They still have the third wheels, except for one, for obvious,reasons.Cliff and GC are always around, no matter the setting,hanging around him for the reason we know.
The only change I see is that they no longer post photos together.
And the other change is how they act at conventions, but JA said it was a show.
Yes, it's true that nowadays, the entertainment world relies much more on publicity with fanservice, and the SPN cast is no exception. And when JA talks about conventions being shows, it's the reality, it's fanservice, but you have to look at it from J2's perspective to understand what the real J2 show is, which obviously is not the same system as with the rest of the cast.
They've always done it, but before many times they got away with it (unless Rich, etc. showed up lol) and now they're being more cautious. They could perfectly be 100% fanservice if they wanted to, they have tremendous chemistry, they're actors, they could handle it perfectly. So why don’t they? That’s the key.Because they can hold back and pretend they get along with Mishit (many actors even hate each other and act like they don’t) and if they were in another situation, why not do it too? The fact that they don’t do it is what makes you think they're still together.
Let's see, if there was nothing left to hide, why keep hiding? When they tell us they did something together, for me it's just to cover themselves, because otherwise something would have revealed that they were together at those moments, and if not, they wouldn't tell us. This has happened in the past too. For example, once fans saw J2 in a museum with JJ, and they ended up telling it because a fan "exposed" them, and they were left with sort of alert faces (this must have been around 2016-2018, I think).
JA has said in one of the CD interviews that he and JP see each other and talk all the time (because obviously they have "separate" jobs now). And I suspect that in the interviews, JA, regarding JP, being a wife or partner in life, speaks truths.
And there have been several rumors over the past few years that they have been seen together (more intensely including 2023 and earlier), and they have try to deflected them in one way or another or mentioned them in some cases. I have an example from this year, when JA was promoting CD. Months later, JA said that JP had been with him, and recently JP also confirmed it. Because there have been some rumors around that week, and rumors around the relationship between CD and JP. This is what I mean: if they bring up something they did together, it's because they have to.
There is something that J2 keeps repeating both directly and indirectly (the latter more JP). Both are much more private than they seem. Anonymity and being at peace (JA in recent years has mentioned it a couple of times, including JP.And in songs.That's my suspicion about living in peace, they live in a quiet place where they can be free to be themselves) and keeping their private life private are some of the things they seem to protect the most in the world. And security is another. JP has had some threats(in the fandom); moreover, external threats must also exist given the nature of their relationship. For example, to me, the bar fight they always talk about was in my view, because those guys must have seen J2 very intimate.
And another essential point, besides the privacy and safety of themselves and their family, is their mental health. (There have been rumors that JP – and obviously the same must happen to JA – has had anxiety "attacks" due to the lack of privacy in the past). Putting ourselves in their shoes, it must be very, very stressful to be constantly looking around and being careful about how they act and what they say in public, and they've basically been like this for 22 years.
In short, for me, there's a lot more smoke and mirrors nowadays than before, a lot of confusion like never before in the fandom.
I hope you're feeling better 🤗
I’ll keep researching and getting back to you! I’ll do it slowly, but Scout’s honor, I won’t leave you hanging ^^
Happy holidays to you and everyone!!❤ Big hug!!
