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I've brought it up on a few other social platforms, but if anyone has access to any ICO PS2 manuals in one or more languages from across Europe and Asia, I would love to hear from you. I already have access to the text of manuals written in [Japanese], [Spanish], [English], and [Dutch]. So any languages outside of those are welcome. Please reach out to me via email: [email protected]
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Requesting Research Materials
I've brought it up on a few other social platforms, but if anyone has access to any ICO PS2 manuals in one or more languages from across Europe and Asia, I would love to hear from you. I already have access to the text of manuals written in [Japanese], [Spanish], [English], and [Dutch]. So any languages outside of those are welcome. Please reach out to me via email: [email protected]
若き日の頃 鉄の意志は 荒波を乗り切った だが今は水面は静まり返っている まるで私の心臓のように
Original lyrics by Fault Lines. Arbitrarily translated into Japanese because I felt it suited The Queen.
Art commission drawn at my request by Mint on Instagram. They did a wonderful job!
In a playable build created just two weeks before the final NTSC-U disc was mastered, Ico shouts Yorda's name as they're being separated. Due to the lack of both captions and visible mouth movement, it's likely this was a short-lived, experimental adjustment to the established scene. EDIT: This was not an experimental adjustment, but rather a remnant of the game's cut down script that was late to be removed. Why it lacked a caption at this stage of development I can't say for sure. But if you want to hear another shout of Yorda's name that was cut, you can hear it in the audio mix of this 'Behind the Scenes' video.
Decoding Yorda's Language
Your first playthrough gives you the code. Your second playthrough gives you a translation. But what about the process in-between?
I picked apart 86 captions from the game files of ICO to figure out exactly how Yorda's fictional language was actually encoded from Japanese.
And I showed all of my work. So you can not only double check it, but add onto it!
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Hi, lala here, could you please elaborate on the topic "torture chamber" on your ICO iceberg?
I love your content and dedication to ICO!
Hi! Thanks so much for asking! At the time of writing that entry into the Iceberg, all I knew was that "Torture Chamber" was written onto a concept sheet depicting an early stage layout for the game. Found only in the pages of Famitsu's ICO 20th Anniversary Issue (published Dec 16th, 2021) on Page 25.
Of course, I never would've picked out or accurately translated the text without help from Glitterberri, who shared my curiosity about this sheet when I shared it with her. It's specifically that large rectangle crossed out near the center. This concept likely marks the moment it was cut from the game. In this layout, it may have been near Stage 5b (now known as West Crag) and Stage 8a (now known as Trolley). Of course, those stages probably didn't resemble what they are in the final product. But since discovering this, I've spoken with the designer of the stage. And he revealed the following information and images, which will be cited where possible: - The Torture Chamber was actually one secret section of a room listed earlier in the layout: 11a, which we now know as the Dynamite Room. [1] This means it also bordered 1b (now known as Dark Room). - It moved in the Castle layout a number of times. Once being set beside the Chandelier room. [2]
Thanks to the above image, we know that the Torture Chamber is a secret room, with the door usually closed. [speculation] The implication of the stage layout concept changes when viewed with this information. Ico first visits 11a for the stated purpose of 11a: Dynamite. But later, as he traverses the Castle in the game's climax, he would be required to access the secret torture chamber in order to progress. [/speculation] - "What I had in mind when I made it was not to torture Yorda, but rather the imprisoning and torturing of traitorous soldiers, off-island invaders, and the like." - Various props, detailed in Lightwave 3D (the animation/modeling program that the team would design the rooms in, before porting to PS1 and PS2) were shared in an earlier Bluesky post. [3] And most of those near the bottom are set in the Dynamite Room.
In the far bottom left, you can see the torture chamber's ベッド ('bed'), as it was labeled in the earlier picture. (It's a very generous label if you ask me.) There's a short manacle attached to the wall by a chain, just beside it. Between the conveyor belt pictures is a glimpse of the 水道 (water supply), which we know is also located in the chamber.
And that's all we know about that specific area currently. If we learn more, it's likely you'll see the Dyanamite Room page of the wiki updated.
Yorda's Hieroglyphs
In honor of a twitter thread hosted by TeamICOfan非公式企画 (run by the artist wncky, aka サトヱ), I've made a list of guesses for what each of Yorda's hieroglyphs represent.
Each glyph has a corresponding letter in the English alphabet. The organized rows of them that appear on Page 2 of the Official ICO Guidebook denote which is which.
The rule, with only one confirmed exception, is that each hieroglyph will depict something beginning with that English letter. But it's also worth remembering that Japanese language still plays an important role in the interpretation.
Some of the English words selected could derive from Kanji with synonyms and associations (typically listed out in a JP-to-ENG dictionary) that native English speakers may not think of. The images used in this post were taken from the Team ICO Wiki. I have consulted official sources such as the artbook and the captions within the game's files and I find they're accurate enough to present on their own.
so was the ico cover art inspired by giorgio de chirico’s art??
Yes. Though not entirely. It was discovered last year, by Reddit user GutereuxMarde that the composition of ICO's Japanese and European cover art was directly lifted from "Tropique du Cancer" a painting from 1945 by Ramsès Younan.
Younan was clearly paying homage to several contemporary artists of his age. Perhaps in an effort to define the voices that made up the surrealist movement. You can see, at the center of the scene, easels with recreated paintings. There's both a Picasso piece ("Tête de femme au chapeau bleu a ruban rouge"), and a Salvador Dalí painting ("Atavistic Vestiges After the Rain"). And obviously, the surrounding architecture is very much inspired by Giorgio de Chirico. I'm not an expert, but I believe those particular mannequin models to the left are Younan's own personal touch on the piece. The portion lifted for the cover of ICO, seen at the right end, was not directly lifted from one of de Chirico's pieces as far as I know. Which makes it all the more curious that Fumito Ueda seemed to confirm it was based on de Chirico in an interview, rather than the lesser known Younan:
OPM: The Japanese cover of Ico is a clever homage to the surrealist painter Giorgio de Chirico. Was Ico inspired by de Chirico? FU: I designed the Japanese cover, and I thought the surrealistic world of de Chirico matched the allegoric world of Ico.
[Source] (Note: 'Designed' does not mean he painted it. That's a common misconception. It likely means he just added the elements that weren't in the original composition as a sketch layer and, obviously, that he had to approve of the final product. Credit should go to Nanako Ohmura and Chika Fukui for digitally painting and touching up what Ueda outlined.) But then, as noticed recently by some members of the Team ICO community, evidence was found (in the Shadow of the Colossus art book, Page 203) to suggest that a prototype cover for ICO instead took its composition directly from de Chirico. A PlayStation 2 cover that seems to display 'Nostalgia of the Infinite' is seen below, nestled among other prototype covers, including the cover of a PS1 ICO disc.
We don't have confirmation that this is for ICO, but it would explain why Ueda so readily credited the wrong painter. The team had probably looked through a number of the popular artist's paintings, but came to agree upon a work which they either believed to have belonged to him, or was close enough for Ueda to have forgotten it was by someone else.
Annon-Guy: Hello there.
You translate Japanese writing?
Not in a professional capacity. I am an amateur. Right now I am incredibly reliant on jisho.org as my Japanese-English dictionary, and Google Translate (very occasionally) as a means to double-check what prepositions and adverbs apply to what part of an SOV sentence structure. I can sight read hiragana and katakana, but I often have no idea what I'm reading because I lack experience with the language. I've been trying to expand my Japanese vocabulary, but progress has been slow for various reasons. Anything I've translated personally on this blog probably took longer than you'd expect (I triple and quadruple checked every word for both the transcription and translation of the ICO Japanese Manual), and it was likely done because I knew no one else would care enough to do it.
A new ICO video is up! This one is about how the Shadow Creatures behave in combat, focusing mostly on the US version's simpler design to draw attention to the differing priorities between enemies.
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I have a new video up. Enjoy!
I have a new video up. Enjoy!
This iceberg chart serves as a table of contents for the ICO encyclopedia I've long been building up in my brain. Feel free to reach out and ask me about any of these entries (but don't anticipate a quick response, especially when I need to gather a lot of sources to fully explain the entry). Transcription of the image under the cut. Higher resolution image
In a playable build created just two weeks before the final NTSC-U disc was mastered, Ico shouts Yorda's name as they're being separated. Due to the lack of both captions and visible mouth movement, it's likely this was a short-lived, experimental adjustment to the established scene. EDIT: This was not an experimental adjustment, but rather a remnant of the game's cut down script that was late to be removed. Why it lacked a caption at this stage of development I can't say for sure. But if you want to hear another shout of Yorda's name that was cut, you can hear it in the audio mix of this 'Behind the Scenes' video.
If you think its a waste of time to consider the story implications of game mechanics, this video probably isn't your cup of tea. If you enj
My final video of the year is up! This one is a bit more speculative than usual, but that just leaves it more open to audience interpretation. I'd love to hear what people think of this late-game R1 function and why it works like this.
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New video is up! This one is a rare cut content video. Not many have heard this track before now.
What a character design. They look so atypical, and yet, its very clearly a Fumito Ueda concept.
