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finally watched project hail mary this weekend (previously read book). Which means I can finally do my post that only works for movie verse! So! You know the fandom road trip conversation where Grace tearfully confesses to being a coward who refused to save the Earth? and you know the fandom road trip conversation where Rocky awkwardly confesses to being a pervert whose been nude and eating in public like a freak the whole time they've known each other? Yeah, same conversation. They both were delicately building up to it for several agonizing weeks. A lot of beating-around-the-bush questions where they non-specifically confirmed that both of them had failed to mention or lied about about some aspects of themselves with the belief that they were never going to see each other again...and now they're going to be spending the rest of Grace's life together so... probably good to get it out there.
When I say same conversation, I mean same conversation. Like I kid you not, they both keep chickening out so theyeventually they decide to blurt it out at the literal same time. That also doesn't work (they keep catastrophizing and backing out) so then they decide to each record a confession while the other is sleeping, then play them back at the same time.
Grace: What do you mean Eridian's wear clothing the same way humans do? Like exactly the same way? It has the same social context? It can't be exactly the same, right? Question?
Rocky: Current Grace Quiet! Past Grace can not get to the fucking point, let finish.
Grace: I - just stop the video, okay! my confession has nothing to do with yours! Let's unpack one thing -
Rocky: [distressed warbling]
Grace: okay, too late, never mind, I β I wasΒ β okay, can you just answer the clothing question first?
Rocky: Rocky hate human Stratt! Rocky kill human Stratt!
Grace: Buddy β it wasn't β
Rocky: This is not confession! This is sad sad sad sad backstory!
Grace: I guess it β I mean of course it's sad, and I'm angry, but you have to admit she was right about me being a coward β
Rocky: Rocky does not have to do anything! Grace save Earth and Erid! Not coward now!
Grace: Ah. Well. so speaking of Rocky not having to do anything β
Rocky: Human try to murder Grace!
Grace: I can't β I don't want to talk about β just β when you say eating is "taboo" do you mean ,like, masturbating in public taboo or shitting in the streets taboo? Is this a sex thing or are you being gross?
Rocky: ...what's difference?
Grace: I. right. One hole. Holy shit Rocky, what the actual heck!
Rocky: Grace not hate humans who kill him? Question?
Grace: Please can you put pants on.
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On Graceβs relationship with DuBois and Shapiro in Project Hail Mary
***book spoilers ahead***
I want to do a quick dive into the infamous scene between Grace, DuBois, and Shapiro in chapter 17 (pp. 283β285 in my copy) because an idea occurred to me and I canβt rest until I dig into it. This is the scene in which DuBois informs Grace of the sexual nature of his relationship with Shapiro.
Something about the conversation didnβt sit quite right for me. Upon reflection, I wanted to take a step back from (or perhaps, as it happens, a step further into) my aroace reading of Grace and get to the bottom of what Weirβs intention was in writing it. While I do believe that the aroace reading is strongly supported by the text, I donβt believe that it was specifically intended, which brings us to these points:
The reader is meant to understand that Grace feels a general social disconnect from the Project Hail Mary team stemming from his poor self-confidence
The reader is meant to perceive his total lack of awareness with regard to how highly he ranks in the projectβs hierarchy of power
These two points, having previously been established, are both cemented by the scene. Grace is uncomfortable being enlightened to the details of DuBois and Shapiroβs sex life, and he doesnβt seem to grasp the fact that both scientists view him as a superior. Itβs heavily implied that DuBois initiates the conversation because he feels the need to report developments in his workplace relationships to a higher-up, and I firmly believe this to be the caseβhe comments on the prudence of informing Grace on the subjectβbut that motivation alone doesnβt account for all of what he says. The way I see it, just about anyone alive (regardless of their personal stance on romance or sex) would feel awkward in Graceβs shoes, which begs the question: Why did DuBois and Shapiro both overshare so brazenly?
The first possible interpretation: Knowing that their relationship is doomed, theyβve elected to completely set aside social decorum in the interest of enjoying their time together to the fullest.
The second possible interpretation: They wanted to test Graceβs receptivity to becoming their third.
Stay with me. We can infer that the conversation was premeditatedβDuBois launches into it very suddenly, and the first thing he does when Shapiro returns from the restroom is update her on the basics of whatβs been said. This is clearly something that they discussed sharing with Grace in advance. Furthermore:
DuBois gently counters Grace on the merits of entering a relationship under the otherwise bleak circumstances
Heβs overly blunt and forthright about specifics, such as the lack of need for condoms and the fact that he and Shapiro have both undergone thorough medical examinations
When Grace demonstrates disinterest, DuBois drops one last hint, which is what really sealed the deal for me: βItβs quite pleasurable.β Grace still doesnβt take the bait, so DuBois begins to back off. After briefing Shapiro on the status of the conversation, he deftly changes the subject by pivoting into science talk, but Shapiro gives another independent push: She interrupts the beginning of Graceβs lecture to openly invite DuBois to sex after the lesson, and then they both look at Grace. Grace interprets this gesture as them being βready for their lesson,β but I would argue that itβs really a classic case of unreliable narration. He misses the cue.
I imagine that at this point, Shapiro (like DuBois) is willing to give up the cause, but we get one more small tidbit of insight: Grace asks (out of what I can only assume is morbid curiosity) if DuBois sticks to his convention of using Shapiroβs professional title during sex, and they both answer affirmatively. Just prior, we hear Shapiro address DuBois by his first name, and prior to that (directly before introducing the topic of sex), DuBois encourages Grace to address him by his first name as well. Granted, that encouragement was promptedβGrace makes it known that he would prefer to drop the formalities in private settings, given that he views the three of them as equalsβbut DuBois is shown time and again to be someone who highly values professionalism in and out of the workplace. He politely declines Graceβs invitation to address him as Ryland.
Power dynamics seem to play a role in his sex life with Shapiro, as evidenced by her disclosing that she βkind of likesβ his use of her title in the bedroom. With that in mind, I donβt think itβs a stretch to conclude that they would both be into the idea of incorporating (what they mutually perceive to be) actual power dynamics into the relationship through the inclusion of Grace.
Circling back to DuBoisβs staunch professionalism, I would cite that as further evidence that heβs coming on to Grace in this sceneβdiscussing the minute details of your sex life with your boss is about as far from professional as you can get. Much of what he says is superfluous and irrelevant to the goal of reporting on the existence of a sexual relationship under obligation, unless you factor in the possibility that an obligatory report wasnβt his only goal.
As a final note, I remember the DuBois-Shapiro scene in the movie sticking out to me even upon my first viewing, just because of how oddly it plays out: The two of them are cuddling up at the pre-launch party, and DuBois seems to intentionally make eye contact with Grace from across the barβwho, being caught off guard and slightly uncomfortable, nods in acknowledgement and looks away. I wasnβt sure what to make of that prior to reading the book, but now it stands to me as a reference to the existing undercurrent between the characters in the text. In both versions, DuBois and Shapiro make a bid for Graceβs attention, and Grace is unreceptive. Given that no pre-launch party scene occurs in the book, I have to conclude that the inclusion of this detail in the movie was intentional and carries subtextual significance.
Obviously, if we take this interpretation at face value, itβs more fuel to the fire that is the aroace reading of Grace. It can be used to argue that he rejects amatonormativity on all levelsβnot just in his scant experience pursuing longterm committed relationships, but in his failure to so much as entertain the idea of a fling or friends with benefits arrangement, even when an easy opportunity presents itself. Romantic affairs never seem to cross his mind. Heβs oblivious to the way his relationship with Stratt is perceived until confronted on the subject by DuBois, and heβs quicker to accuse her of sexism upon learning that she sought an all-male team of astronauts than he is to put stock in her actual line of reasoning. If DuBois and Shapiro were indeed trying to make a move on him, itβs no wonder that it flew over his head.
Even beyond the aroace reading, though, this interpretation still contributes to the narrative: It showcases Graceβs emotional isolation on a broader scale and demonstrates how grossly he underestimates the regard his associates have for him. Heβs woefully out of his depth in the rigid world of international negotiations that he gets thrust into, ignorant to the degree of sociopolitical power and authority heβs been granted through his close proximity to Stratt, and unaware of what makes his participation so crucial to the projectβs success. It only follows that he would also be immune to flirtation, never recognizing his own assets or what might make him uniquely desirable. Thematically, this underlines his later growth in finding a purpose, building the courage and confidence needed to fulfill that purpose, and embracing love (however unconventional its form) as a driving force.
I actually really love this! Especially the insight about them seeing Grace as their superior.... that's an angle I hadn't thought about before.
I've actually always read this moment as
1. A bit of fun for the reader. Taking the idea about the effect of sacrificing yourself for the cause making you go YOLO and turning it into a light hearted and hilarious moment.
2. Setting up Grace's inability to understand how people can go about their lives knowing they're going to die... and even choosing death. Grace is set up a a character who always played his life safe and avoided pain... so his transformation is complete later when he chooses death to save Rocky.
I never read more than that into it myself but I think the "let's invite Grace in as a third" thing is so cute and funny.... so I am a fan lol.
honestly fandom has ruined me because now any time i'm in the desert and i see two vast and trunkless legs of stone or a half-sunk shattered visage i'm like "omg just like in Ozymandias" and its like come on girl not every half-sunk shattered visage is Ozymandias
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I recently learned that "Make A Terrible Comic Day" is a thing from this post. What better way to celebrate than to follow the kind encouragement of @justcakethanks and make a spinoff #eridianwelcomingcommittee comic? justcakethanks's comics are certainly not terrible, but I make no promises about mine.
I am not any kind of visual artist, so each and every drawing in this comic was copy-pasted straight from justcakethanks's comics -- at most, modified a little, like substituting an ellipsis for the original question mark in Grace's reaction, and of course changing the card message.
Fun fact: I started out making this comic with absolutely no idea what would happen in it. I took a bunch of clipped screenshots from the original eridianwelcomingcommittee comics, saved them in a folder and labeled/numbered them, and generated random numbers to start picking which drawings to put in. The "plot", such as it is, bloomed from there.
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I feel like this is Grace instantly mentally transporting into teacher mode. He's busted this fact out in class and the students always lose it and there's a lot of discussion afterwards and a big fat successful class
...and before he can stop himself his brain is like OH CENTRIFUGE BUTTER STORY TIME and halfway through he's like "shit...."
Because he rememembers that this isn't fun preteen story hour these are doctors and scientists trying to save the fucking world.
Fan comics of the eridian welcoming committtee by @justcakethanks - they are a work of art. The committee understands that fire is unsafe for humans, so the hosuewarming was done outside the biodome for Grace to watch. In the second one, they misinterpreted the statement 'we love you to death'. Likely inspired by Valentines day cards.
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uhm so I wanted to participate in the spinoff comics from @justcakethanks !! Sorry if itβs not the greatest, I used my thumbs and a dream π I absolutely adore these three theyβre so goofy
Also I love how the fanart committee is now om charge of every facet of Grace's care. Did they get promoted because they did such a good job with welcoming??
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