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Alright… I keep seeing Liu Qingge slander in fanfics and meta— especially with respect to Shen Jiu— and it’s starting to get on my nerves.
Liu Qingge did not hate Shen Jiu because of a misunderstanding on his part!
Liu Qingge did not assume he was a rich and arrogant young master (I have no idea where this idea came from), nor is there any indication he particularly cared about the brothel visits. He hated Shen Jiu because of his actual behaviors!
Shen Jiu treated him horribly after Liu Qingge beat him in Cang Qiong Mountain’s annual martial arts tournament:
Within Cang Qiong Mountain, the one he undoubtedly hated most was Liu Qingge.
Liu Qingge had achieved success in his youth; his talents were extraordinary, his spiritual energy vast, and his swordplay awe-inspiring. His family background was excellent, and both his parents were alive. Any one of these things would have been enough to make Shen Qingqiu gnash his teeth and toss and turn for three days and three nights, let alone all of them together in one person.
During Cang Qiong Mountain’s annual martial arts tournament, Shen Qingqiu’s opponent had been Liu Qingge. Naturally, the conclusion had been an overwhelming loss on his part.
There was no shame in losing to the future Bai Zhan Peak Lord, or perhaps one should say that this was how it should be. That it was normal.
But Shen Qingqiu would absolutely never think such things. What he saw wasn’t the bystanders’ amazement at how he’d valiantly held out for so long but Liu Qingge’s matter-of-fact arrogance as he held the point of Cheng Luan’s blade inches from his throat.
Qing Jing Peak prided itself on being the gentleman’s peak, and Shen Qingqiu took to playing a gentleman like a fish to water. Yet Liu Qingge was always able to make his rage boil to the surface, to the point that he didn’t bother wasting energy playing nice with his sect sibling.
The thing Shen Qingqiu most often said to Liu Qingge was: “Liu Qingge, I’ll definitely kill you one day!”
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As Shen Qingqiu had turned a deaf ear to his every plea, Yue Qingyuan found it difficult to speak further. After all, he couldn’t straight-up tell him something like: If you hadn’t used every means to ambush Liu Qingge after the meet in order to teach him a lesson, the two of you wouldn’t fly into a rage at the slightest contact now, nor would you loathe the mere sight of each other.
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A lot of fanfics have Liu Qingge dragging Shen Jiu out of brothels, but in actuality the only time he confronted Shen Jiu at one was due to Shen Jiu giving a different Bai Zhan disciple a severe beating:
Though conflict often erupted between Shen Qingqiu and Bai Zhan Peak, the conflict this time was truly overblown. A Bai Zhan Peak disciple had gone to this small, remote town for a task, where he had just happened to see a familiar person enter the largest brothel in the area, the Warm Red Pavilion. From top to bottom, Bai Zhan Peak felt the same as Liu Qingge: none of them harbored any goodwill toward Shen Qingqiu. Therefore the disciple had obviously refused to let this chance pass by; he’d directly followed Shen Qingqiu into the brothel, then mocked him for being a hypocrite and actually entering this sort of place, saying that he’d lost face for their entire sect.
After a couple of undiplomatic words, Shen Qingqiu had beaten him severely, leaving him with serious injuries. When this disciple returned to Bai Zhan Peak, he’d run into Liu Qingge. After questioning him, Liu Qingge had been steaming with rage, he had promptly rushed over on his sword for payback, ready to hit Shen Qingqiu back for every blow.
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So Liu Qingge only interrupted him at the Warm Red Pavilion to get payback on behalf of another Bai Zhan disciple. The text doesn’t mention him making a single comment about the brothel visit itself.
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The only misunderstanding between the two occurred after their mutual hatred was well established:
In the chaos of battle, Liu Qingge and Shen Qingqiu accidentally pressed their backs together, and their faces simultaneously contorted with looks of revulsion. Shen Qingqiu had already shot out a spiritual blast, which brushed by Liu Qingge’s shoulder as it passed. Liu Qingge, angered, immediately retaliated with a blow.
Great. The entirety of their combat forces were now ignoring the enemy in order to fight amongst themselves.
“Are you blind?” Shen Qingqiu yelled. “What are you hitting?!”
Liu Qingge wasn’t any more polite. “Who hit first? Who went blind first?!”
Shang Qinghua lay on the ground, eyes still rolled back. He had clearly seen when, moments ago, a faint white shadow peeked out from behind Liu Qingge. Shen Qingqiu’s attack had passed Liu Qingge’s shoulder to disperse it.
As he watched, the blows his peers rained down on each other grew fiercer and fiercer, their eyes going red with bloodlust. Forgetting to play dead, he sat up and called weakly, “You guys, don’t fight. Liu-shidi, you misunderstood; in fact, Shen-shixiong was just—”
Shen Qingqiu flung out his hand, and several deep, deep cracks were smashed into the wall by Shang Qinghua’s head. Dust and pebbles streamed down.
“If you’re going to die, then die completely,” Shen Qingqiu said icily. “Don’t change your mind halfway.”
Without another word, Shang Qinghua collapsed and went back to contentedly playing dead.
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That sounded about right. He had gone to all that trouble to do a good thing, but the result hadn’t met his expectations. But if that was the problem, then he should just go and explain himself to Liu Qingge—just admit he was trying to help him out! But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t do it.
If you won’t do it, just let me help you explain, thought Shang Qinghua. But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t compromise his own pride. Maybe he was too embarrassed. People really shouldn’t twist themselves into knots—that’s just self-torture.
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Shen Jiu absolutely could have explained this misunderstanding, or let Shang Qinghua do so, but he wouldn’t do it!
Liu Qingge does not need to learn not to make assumptions. Shen Yuan was nice to him precisely once and he was perfectly willing to reevaluate their relationship.
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“And if you’ll give me 40% of the MOST POPULAR VOTE, I’ll give you my SPECIAL REWARD... A year’s supply of NON-GLOOBY SLIME!!! Never or BARELY used!!!” Tenna concluded his speech with a huge smile, jetting his hands up in double peace signs.
The crowd roared in confused enthusiasm as Tenna gave a gracious flurry of low-FPS bows, pausing only for the occasional stink-nose at his audience plants who weren’t throwing enough 3D roses.
Eventually, the room fell silent. It was Senshi’s turn to speak.
He puffed out his chest, took a long, sweeping look over the audience… and shook his head.
“I can see not all of you are eating properly.”
The crowd murmured with embarrassment.
“I don’t know who needs to hear this, but it’s time to take the turkey out of your icebox. I have seen the ingenious technology with which your people store food... and I have also seen the waste which results from such convenience.
“The food you take had a life. Beasts grew fat on the grass of the field, plants grew from the sun’s rays, and mushrooms grew from minerals in the cracks of caves. And yet, it sits in your iceboxes, collecting moisture until it perishes.
“Eat what is given to you. Because its life will make you stronger, too.”
Without another word, Senshi left his podium and stepped away from the stage. The crowd murmured in confusion. “Is he really like that?” somebody said. “I only remember reblogging the photosets of him tripping and showing ass.”
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Back in the Green Room, Tenna wrung his antennas nervously.
“Y-y-you think they liked me!? They HAD to!! I mean, I don’t know what Asgore was thinking, getting that weird haircut and running that food waste campaign, but… YOU thought I did good, didn’t you, Kris?”
Laios nodded aggressively, a streak of blue face paint peeling from his forehead.
“You did AMAZING, Tenna! By the way, now that we’ve seen all your insider campaign secrets, do you have any more videos of Susie? Especially her tail... If I could get a look at that, I could finally tell if she’s a dinosaur or --”
THWACK. Fake antlers butted Laios’s head.
“LAIOS?? Weren’t we dressed up to help SENSHI???” Marcille hissed, gesturing awkwardly with her hooves.
Suddenly, Tenna turned to the two adventurers.
“Hey, WAIT a second. SOMETHING’s not right here...”
Laios and Marcille held their breath.
“Where the heck are my POINTS!?”
Just then, the door opened. Chilchuck took one step into the room, whistling and holding a large bag.
Everyone turned to him.
Chilchuck paused, took a step backwards, and closed the door.
“CHILCHUCK!!!” yelled Tenna.
“How come Chilchuck got to stay Chilchuck!?” yelled Marcille at the same time.
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Meanwhile, in outer space somewhere, some guy was making out with a rock.
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if we're talking about housing/shelter for mizi specifically.
something about mizi in alnst knowing that shine gives her shelter because shine finds her endearing, and wishing that shine will keep loving mizi because mizi wants to live a little longer. and then sua in zomst saying that mizi doesn't have to pay sua back for shelter, specifically because sua loves mizi so much that she's happy that mizi would be relying on her.
when your access to shelter is dependent on the shelter provider loving you uh oh
i just got more curious about how this scene played out in their reality. The same placation and means Sua goes through to have Sua use her for comfort or confide in her do not work on Mizi this time when she presses Mizi too hard after they grew apart this much. Even though Mizi clearly still loved her and stayed by Sua's side, I think Mizi regressed to her guarded, mistrustful demeanor again for that moment and literally and metaphorically "ran away" from Sua, the conflict, and their bond.
I'm not sure if she lost trust in *Sua* particularly after how distant they became and how traumatized she was by the industry and how alone she felt in it, and having to keep up a facade for Sua too at first so she wouldn't worry her, but this parallels how much Mizi loathed herself as a child in the comic, "Ache". She couldn't let Sua in back then because she couldn't trust her. She saw Sua's sweet words as unsettling; her gradually taking away the responsibility and agency felt nothing like comfort; it was probably like Sua didn't see her as her own person, and painted Mizi as this "can do no wrong" girl who just needs Sua to show her how happy she can be.
I already thought Sua was taking away Mizi's little show of agency over her own body by just taking her cigarette was the trigger because Sua was callously exerting control while not properly negotiating and confronting how much Mizi was suffering when Mizi was resorting to that kind of coping mechanism; they were choosing to work around and avoid it before Mizi blew up. And thats probably it but this also shows their relationship is falling apart under a toxic and crumbling foundation- it's evident just how much they are used to being in this same position but at some point, Mizi can't keep relying on the same old tactics, and her stress with no outlet gets to her. Mizi hadn't learned how to process her own feelings, self-regulate, and confront them, so she takes her frustration and resentment out on Sua and can't bear to see the aftermath. When she refuses the comfort and escapism, she can't accept it because she feels so guilty, and she hasn't outgrown how she used to be as a kid
when I see the backstory and the reason they grew so close, I think this scene is showing me the consequence of Sua's enabling, their mutual enabling that led to their big fight and led to Mizi pushing her away, which would've probably been for good if Sua didn't desperately bring Mizi back in and possess her in the way she did, but in that way, thats the "Good ending" in Sua's eyes. it's a fitting conclusion (And again parallels ALNST Mizi so well... when she grieves in the aftermath of Sua's death and abandonment and regresses back into that sad kid who just wanted her friends back, or when she was angry at Sua and regresses and immediately receives Sua's pampering and forgiveness unconditionally, it allows her to sink deeper, disregard Sua's pain for her own comfort at times, and then lose her as consequence for her own ignorance. But here, Sua always gets to stay with her in any way she can, rather than live in a world without her )
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I don't think Shen Jiu should be the perfect shizun to Ning Yingying. I don't think he should have even been a good shizun to her. I think he should see Qiu Haitang in her kindness and naiveness and purposefully keep her in the dark so she can never be cruel. He should look past everything else she is and only see her as someone who could become a savior to someone who is hurt, a light in someone's endless darkness. He will never care for what she will think once she learns what he has done, because why would he ever let her know? Now, let's just hope some hurt kid who needs light doesn't show up, and give her a reason to question his actions...
