I recently rewatched season 1 and these characters are niggling at my brain even more than usual....
The show is about many things, but to me ultimately all the main characters' arcs explore the questions: What do we owe to ourselves? What do we owe to the people around us (especially those we love, but also others with whom we're connected/implicated)?
I'm thinking about how Simon flinches and bats Wille's hands away when he keeps trying to touch his face on the football field, the same night that Simon has the confrontation with his dad and Micke shoves him into the wall.
Thinking about Simon’s face when Wille yells at him about the drug situation:
Whereas when Simon has serious conversations with Wille, he tends to be so quiet, controlled: their conversation at Lucia when he gives in and comforts Wille; the “I don’t want to be anyone’s secret” breakup; the “I’m glad you said those things to them but maybe this just isn’t going to work” birthday breakup.
Obviously Simon holds his own. He has a temper as well, and raises his voice, and physically attacks August. He and Wille both escalate.
But when Simon says he can't do it anymore after Wille explodes at his parents and throws things, that's, what, 6 weeks? after Simon stood there as Wille made August kneel, execution-style, and pointed a loaded rifle at August's throat and forehead as he verbally threatened to shoot him – and goes on to fire the rifle. (Wille is so deranged with rage here the screengrabs are unsettling so I'm omitting... also Edvin is phenomenal).
I’m not suggesting Simon is scared of Wille, or that Wille poses a threat to Simon. But Wille is volatile. It’s one of the things that makes him so interesting to me as a character. All of his jagged edges, discomforting impulses, hypocrisies, intense emotions he's been told he has to suppress to be acceptable, to be "good."
I feel like we focus on the ending as a hopeful moment of “love is all” (and it can be that too!) but it’s so much more interesting to me as an expression of how the show explores choice.
In those final moments, we see Wille and Simon each choose themselves. For Wille, it's to tell his mother he wants to step down. And for Simon, it’s to follow his deep desire to give Wille – to give them – another chance.
Earlier in 3.6 when Sara tells Simon “you were right to give people another chance, it’s brave” hasn't been canonized the way other moments in the show have, but to me it's such a pivotal scene. Ostensibly they’re talking about Micke, but of course it’s about Wille too.
Simon knows it might all still fall apart, but he says yes anyway.
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For all that we emphasize how devoted Wille is to Simon (as he is!), the fact that Simon gets out of the car at the end, and puts himself out there – yet again – to hear what Wille has to say, and then takes the risk of saying yes is such a remarkable moment of grace. For both of them.
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There are lots of reasons why fandom is "quieter" now than it used to be. Some theories are more compelling to me than others, and they all have a different scale of impact. We'll never know for sure, of course, but I like to think about it. Thus, this poll.
Of the list below, which reason do you find most compelling or do you think had the biggest impact?
New entrants to fandom don't know the old ways
fandom olds didn't teach the newcomers how to fandom
covid/surge in fandom due to quarantine and lockdowns
"antis" and other harassment campaigns against creators
creators posting complaints about comments (people worry about commenting wrong)
rise of discord popularity - fandom is walled off from each other
tumblr porn ban and other reasons people left the site
capitalism turning fandom into a passive "view and move on" commodity
rules from social media impacting fan culture (eg. don't comment on old posts)
general state of the world / burnout
social anxieties in an increasingly complex online culture
"surveillance state" worries and not wanting to be perceived
Remaining time: 5 days 21 hours
This is an incomplete list, so if your most compelling reason isn't listed, feel free to add it in the notes.
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Guys, former @/skamenglishsubs is on YR Reddit as @/henrik_se and they asked if anyone has saved their "Subtext and Culture" analyses of season 3. If any of you did, can you reach out to them?
the most essential part of a fandom are those people who immediately tell you to write it, draw it, make it when you share your ideas, you have no idea how many fanworks are born just because someone encouraged it
heard a story about a guy renting out his flat to the same two people alternating week after week and of course my brain immediately went ’wilmon’. so now i’m imagining a situation where one rents the flat on the odd weeks, the other on the even ones because of work or something. and eventually they figure out it’s always the same person coming in after them, so over time they start to leave little notes like ”hey there’s some brownies in the fridge because i felt like baking but couldn’t eat them all” or ”i think you left your shampoo here last week, it’s by the sink” and the like. maybe one of them misses a week and the other wonders what happened. and maybe, just maybe, there’s a mishap and one week they end up there at the same time…
hopefully you guys are still excited about this in something like 6 months because i may or may not have spent the past half an hour drafting a rough plotline for it…
(if someone wants to come up with a reason for why wille and simon need to be renting a flat every other week hit me up)
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"dealing is so fucking low" MY LOVE MY DARLING, HE MAY BE DEALING BUT YOU WERE USING!!!
my beautiful son, how about we TALK before we get aggressive and we recognize that we should maybe separate ourselves from substances as a whole, considering that they only seem to be causing us more drama
Is it bad that this is the kind of shitty hypocrisy I find so fascinating in Wilhelm? It’s just so realistically teenage to me that in a moment of pressure he’s falling back on something he probably absorbed from Erik or similar sources. (Taking drugs is fine if you don’t get caught, dealing drugs is seen as low.)
Like. Idk. I love a good argument that reveals internal bullshit a character hasn’t quite gotten rid of.
So class-coded, in that way YR does so well, in that it's embedded in the characters' unconscious, internalized mindset, expressed in moments of pressure.
I'd add on: Micke taking drugs because he needs them due to neurocomplexity, and even more so because he's an addict? Because he can't help it? Low. Uncouth.
Versus the Forest Ridge boys taking them to party? That's just how you have a good time, when you know that even if you're caught your parents will just sidestep legal prosecution, send you to a different prestigious fancy boarding school, and/or donate a bunch of money to your current school and fund a new padel court.
Or even versus August taking drugs to excel (or even Vincent – it feels like there's a suggestion he amplified his diagnosis to get more meds so he can give them to August). That's just being canny, and getting an edge.
I really wish YR hadn't evaporated August's prescription med dependence storyline partway through the show.
It offers super interesting narrative class parallels, and also generational dynamics.
We sometimes talk about the uncomfortable similarities between Wilhelm and August, but less often about what it might mean that both Simon and August have/had fathers who are addicts, and who have in different ways profoundly let them down or left them to navigate life on their own.
“The LEGO Movie was my favorite movie of 2014, but it strikes me that the main character was male, because I feel like in our current culture, he HAD to be. The whole point of Emmett is that he’s the most boring average person in the world. It’s impossible to imagine a female character playing that role, because according to our pop culture, if she’s female she’s already SOMEthing, because she’s not male. The baseline is male. The average person is male. You can see this all over but it’s weirdly prevalent in children’s entertainment. Why are almost all of the muppets dudes, except for Miss Piggy, who’s a parody of femininity? Why do all of the Despicable Me minions, genderless blobs, have boy names? I love the story (which I read on Wikipedia) that when the director of The Brave Little Toaster cast a woman to play the toaster, one of the guys on the crew was so mad he stormed out of the room. Because he thought the toaster was a man. A TOASTER. The character is a toaster. I try to think about that when writing new characters— is there anything inherently gendered about what this character is doing? Or is it a toaster?”
— Bojack Horseman creator Raphael Bob-Waksberg commenting on how weird gendered defaults in entertainment are, and why we should think twice about them. Excerpted from this longer original post.
(via 360degreesasthecrowflies)
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i love making friends in fandom, i love playing with our toys together, i love coming up with increasingly niche aus, i love lifting strangers up, i love motivating people to create, i love watching someone get excited over an idea and immediately running with it, i love yelling in tags together, i love seeing someone gain confidence in their writing/art because people were kind to them <33