salt vinegar and everything sinister

But the trend of making Simon super religious and view Grace as an angel, or something divine, has very much been noted. And I'm not really sure where it comes from besides taking an idea someone suggested and the entire fandom running with it

Simon himself states he's not really religious. He comes from what is arguably a death cult, which he already displayed some doubt in and questions regarding Eden's beliefs as a child in flashbacks, and has been out of the cult (technically, at least physically) for over a decade. While we can argue that while physically out, he may not mentally have made that jump, and I can understand if that's part of it. He still holds certain aspects in high regard, such as the tree seed/ sprout. He has a connection to The Guy That Told Him to Cross The Wires through them both being of Eden. He feels abandoned by the people of Eden.

But in a death cult, more than anything, Simon wants to live, and that says a great deal about how involved he is now. Which is to say, he isn't.

He states he is not religious, and when the conversation revolves around God, he says he'd rather not go there. Simon likely has very complicated feelings about religion and god and angels and divinity on a good day. And Simon hasn't really had a good day, like, *ever*.

Plus we're factoring in his time on the Iron Lung? Where his closest brush with divinity is the Eye. The pinhole god. The possible origin of the Quiet Rapture. He sees something terrible and horrific and immense and beyond comprehension, and while it helps, it also condemns him to a different fate. It has condemned them all.

I do not think Simon would worship Ryland Grace. I do not think he'd revere him as an angel. I don't think he'd have the near fanatical view regarding him that I've seen in some fics. And nothing against those. I know we're all having fun, and I know I am. I'm reading fics I come across with reckless abandon and glee

But I don't think he'd see Grace as something divine. On a pedestal? Oh yes, absolutely, at least until much later

But if we say he did see Grace as something divine? If he saw him as an angel?

He would probably be terrified

Ive seen the idea of swapping the scenarios theyre in, so instead i swapped their vibes. Simon having the best time in that blood ocean, making friends with mutant fish that can speak telepathically, while Grace is fighting for his life against an alien rock that generates hazardous atmosphere.

idk if anyone else has done this and given a name to it. i googled what the opposite of a 'bloody mary' drink is and it came up with a 'bloody caesar'. i dont know about that one chief. Iron hail? please tell me someone else has thought this through

Simon is missing his left arm, up to the shoulder. Like at the bicep.

Simon is not just a eel, he's fused with the seed and explodes into a tree.

The seed was on the left arm, fused, reversed Pinocchioed him, and got ripped off.

He kills Elli by exploding into a fucking tree.

He met God.

God gave him prophetic visions and fucked him up. Promised Simon would live, and like a Genie, didn't specify how.

Also some time manipulation bullshit was happening.

Homeboy is played by Mark(iplire), who is Korean. (Draw him Korean you cowards /j)

Simon would not necessarily be impressed/ emotinal from looking at stars. In a flashback he's seen stars before, but knows they're ghost light. He would be grateful being able to see them again though.

He WOULD be very emotinal about any plant life. He found a new will to live when he found the little seed. He had a breakdown when the little charm cracked.

His "job" on Eden was to nourish the last tree with the people he killed. Hence his nickname.

There's a lot symbolism regarding trees (the hull window crack)

Simon is resourceful and smart! Like smart smart! Let him be smart woth Rocky and Grace!

Yes, Simon can be aggressive, but is only in situation where his life is threatened. He's also remorseful. He's apologetic and does want to make up for his wrongs, even if it wasn't his fault.

His left eye glows :3

Grace is not a coward.

Like Simon, Grace did not go down without a fight. He ran, yes, but when he was being sedated he shouted how he would sabotage the mission. Do everything he can to make it fail, just so the wouldn't risk putting him on the exhibition.

He is incredibly brave. He did a space walk without training. He trusted rocky that he wouldn't explode in the space bridge. He CLIMBED ON THE BURNING EXTERIOR OF THE HAIL MARY TO RETRIEVE THE COLLECTION DEVICE.

Grace is not a crybaby. He crys for very real, reasonable reasons! When he was betrayed? When they found a solution to save their stars? When Rock gave him a way to return to Earth? It would be weird for him NOT to cry! (Edit: person in the tags you're so right)

He would be scared meeting Simon, but he would not be a coward.

They BOTH have a "This is bigger than me" mentality. They both risked everything to ensure the survival of humanity. They were willing to die.

It's not selfish just wanting to live.

I don't think either of them would have a problem doing anything to survive. (Eating the Taumoeba or Me-burgers)

the Institute making a spy to infiltrate one of the most well armed and paranoid factions in the wasteland: we're gonna make this fucker so goddamn autistic that its gonna be hard to believe he's NOT a robot

Simon was named ‘The Butcher’ before the explosion, but not because he was a target kind of killer for Eden. He was just like any other soldier until the Filament Station. He was a soldier of Eden that was fighting in the 9-day battle, which is when he specifically was given the name not by Eden but by COI due to his kill count in that battle. And when the explosion happened it just racked up the kill count.