I haven't seen them, but there MUST be posts about NPD!Vox, right?
For him, it's either 'perfection' or nothing
The exact wordage of 'failure' haunts him in a complicated and significant way
Always aiming higher, never satisfied with what he's got
Upset to the point of tears when Alastor ripped into him, and it stuck with him for years
Had a crashout where he was overtaken by a delusion of godhood
His source of power is symbolically sourced directly from the public's good opinion of him
A Vox with NPD gives that extra spice to his tears and breakdowns, but also his happiness and where he finds his joy:
His relationships with Velvette and Valentino began as business partners before it could turn into anything more personal, and it took years to reach that point
And he doesn't seem to notice just how dedicated they are to him, in their own way. They didn't abandon him at his worst, which is more than most villains can say.
Rejection Dysphoric Vox. He's always found it difficult to deal with criticism without getting disproportionally emotional. If he's not careful, just the slightest comment could cause him to tear up, which is a nightmare to deal with for a man doused in toxic masculine norms.
His demon form responds directly to his audience's affirmations. He's always needed regular acknowledgement to keep from going crazy. As a human, it drove him to fawn and smooge and play the show business industry like a fiddle. As a demon, it's now his lifeblood.
And to be clear: I do not encourage anti-NPD ableism. NPD!Vox is just another angle to pick the character apart, not a way to explain the worst of him.
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Interested in taking a closer look into the living world of Alastor and Vox?
Alastor's last known biological age drop was late 30's to early 40's, and he canonically died in 1933.
Vox's last known biological age drop was also his 30's and 40's, and he died in the early 1950's.
This means that Alastor's childhood was the Edwardian era, his young adult years shadowed by the roaring '20s and WW1, and his adult years were during the Great Depression. Vox, meanwhile, was born up to a decade later, meaning his childhood was WW1, his young adult years the Great Depression, and his adult years spanning WW2 and the baby boom era.
So if you ever wanna explore media that takes place during these time periods, here are some of the more historically accurate ones! Each centering around some relevance to Alastor and Vox's time and setting: Great Depression South, 1950's Northeast(?), big cities, entertainment industries, bachelor life.
Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018), the triple-A video game. Bonus points for including New Orleans as an explorable city, taking right smack during Alastor's childhood years. Nothing beats the feeling like you're walking right by Al's childhood shanty house on your way to the French Quarter.
To Kill A Mockingbird (1962), taking place in Great Depression Alabama. A closer look at what race inequality looks like in the poverty-striken parts of a city, chipped enamel sinks and all.
O Brother, Where Art Thou (2000), taking place in the deep south during the 30's. A comedy retelling of the odyssey featuring tweed suits and cloche hats. Less of the city and more of the wet fauna of Mississippi.
Malcom X (1992), a biopic of the American civil rights activist. Spans his entire life, from the 1920's to the 1960's, from the deep south to inner-city Boston. A look at not only how black American men lived back then, but also how white people reacted to them. Bonus, a little segment on how mixed black men lived.
12 Angry Men (1957), the all-star classic, taking place during contemporary times. A cast of nothing but Vox look-alikes and sound-alikes! Enjoy tidbits like the rotary cloth towel dispenser in the washroom, and a rounding stance against racism that aligns very much like ours today.
L.A. Noire (2011), the video game, taking place in the late 40's. Technology limitations of the time means certain environmental details are kinda cardboard-looking, but otherwise you can actually walk around in boomer-era Los Angeles. Bonus points for having a chapter focused solely on the predatory cinema industry.
The Help (2011), the mediocre drama starring Emma Stone as the 'unattractive' nerdy lead. But the historical accuracy of 1950's Mississippi is there, focused primarily on the lives of women - white and black.
The Hours (2002), another white-woman-feature and how they make do as 'accessories' to men like Vox, bonus points for segments featuring a heavy emphasis on 50's family cooking.
Mafia (video game series), spanning from the 30's to the 50's. Some take place in places neither of them wouldn't have touched (like Italy or Hawaii), but otherwise? Enjoy a meticulously crafted Great Depression/boomer-era city!
You might notice a lack of certain movies/games like The Great Gatsby or Fallout. It's 'cause this post is about true historical accuracy, and not the Mr. Sandman-fueled parody we see in Back To The Future. Other movies like Seabiscuit or The Sound Of Music might have the historical accuracy, but not the setting adjacency to Alastor or Vox's lives.
Do you have anything to add to my list? Please share! Lets all immerse ourselves in a (shittier) time for the sake of our blorbos.
"I carried that guilt to my grave, and I ended up in Hell."
What if that's what determines the Sinners and the Winners in the Hazbin Hotel universe? What if it turns out to have nothing to do with sin, or guilt, or whether a sinner thinks they 'deserve' to be in Hell? It's all just a coincidence?
THEORY: did you die with a juicy secret? Welcome to [Place B]. Did you die with nothing to hide? Welcome to [Place A].
Picture it. We meet this 'Anubis'-esque character that sits at the crossroads, and she's this huge gossip queen that hungers for the best tea. If she's satiated by what you 'took to the grave', go down the left path. If you bored her 'cause you died with nothing to hide, go down the right path.
It's nothing to do with christian morality, heck maybe nothing to do with 'bad' shit at all.
It's that you've got something hidden in your pocket that gets sucked into the toll booth that is the crossroads, and you end up in Hell.
There's a certain indie game title called The Forgotten City, and spoilers for the game, but the player character begins to piece together that you and the rest of the residents of this underground inescapable city had 1) lost consciousness near a river and 2) had SOME sort of coin in your pocket.
AKA, you're all in the roman afterlife by pure chance cause of those two factors. It's just a coincidence that keeping some painful attachment is what the figurative Cerberus demands as payment, and that if you lack that, you get sent to [Place A] instead of [B].
(The Forgotten City's big twist was that the Roman 'afterlife' is the same as the Greek one, which in turn was the same as the Egyptian one - and underneath it all, its true existence is an ancient alien creation by the alien who'd be called Hades, joined by a being named Karen Charon, and his wife Persephone.)
Angel Dust killed his dad and took it to his grave. Vox killed his way to the top and never told anyone.
Sure, Hell sucks and Heaven is ... what it is, but wasn't all that artificially engineered after these two places already existed? Lucifer was cast down to [Place B] to be punished, and Adam died with no great regrets or secrets.
("Money? Oh man! The Devil makes you need money?" "The Devil doesn't make us do anything." "So why use money? This is stupid." Johnny The Homicidal Maniac was one of the patron influences on 2000-2010 emo culture, which in turn spawned Hazbin Hotel.)
I think it'd be a tactful and graceful way to address the show's big lore questions. Instead of endorsing Christian morality - or any religion's morality - they make their own approach based off of attachment philosophies.
'Cause attachment philosophy is what spawned modern self-improvement therapy. That's why self-improvement is so hard. YOU made your Hell, got comfortable with it, trained your neurons to default to it, and to abandon that is to let go of attachments.
Alastor and his relationship with MASCULINITY and VIOLENCE
“When men feel small they are dangerous.”
- Nina MacLaughlin, Wake, Siren: Ovid Resung
One repeating characteristics of real life (serial) killers is their toxic masculine sexuality. And from there, we see that toxic maleness seep into how we design and perceive male antagonists.
Hazbin Hotel is trying to break the mold in many ways. It's an inverse of a 'Disney princess fairy tale'. It bring to the forefront the most vulnerable of the queer population. It has its most popular character clearly set up to be a future antagonist ... we just don't know when or why.
In real life, male killers are known for their insecure, pitiful efforts for control and domination, very often stemmed from sexual repression. They target those that they want to violate. They try to ensnare those that they're attracted to. Their violence is intertwined with their masculinity.
Alastor is written to be different. Not just on a meta scale - the creators have gone on record to say that Hazbin Hotel isn't a true crime drama - but I do believe Alastor has very particular hangups about his masculinity that is bleeding through in the form of violence.
Let me explain:
Alastor's Physical Design = overall masculine score of 8/10
Al has many masculine traits. He's got buck antlers, a padded suit, a towering height, and a full body cane. On many characters, these would all be nods to a male patriarchal figure. Like a southern sugar baron, or a British aristocrat.
The biggest visual hint to Al's masculinity is his antler rack. It grows bigger when he gets bloodthirsty. In the show proper, it's probably a visual cue of a manifesting 'animalistic' side. But it can also mean that Al relates his masculinity with violence.
Antler racks are very culturally masculine. A hunter displaying a huge mounted antler rack is basically just a less crass way of showing off the huge chub of a rival male he's slain.
Alastor having antlers was most certainly one of the few ways of making demonic form look more like his animal inspiration, like Vaggie's segmented white hair, or Vox's hidden gills. Notably, sinner designs with animal traits tend to not prioritize sex dimorphism: Husk doesn't have huge chunky tomcat cheeks. Angel Dust doesn't have spots of shiny iridescence.
There's only one example of clear sex dimorphism can think of: in Helluva Boss, Stella and Andrealphus are clearly female and male peafowl. Andrealphus displays a huge train, while Stella has a less extravagant tail display if any at all. But in that case, they wanted to show something of a species lineage between the two siblings. They had a female peafowl design, so her brother would be the more flamboyant male.
Gun to my head, giving Al antlers probably wasn't "this is MASCULINE SYMBOLISM" and more like a "this is a deer character". The only other 'male' deer trait Alastor uses is an elk bugle. Which is a sexual tool. It's used to attract females and challenge other males. I seriously doubt the creators are implying that Alastor is in rut when he bugles. Like his antlers, it's there for the directing and not the literal.
Al's actual body is also more masculine than it may seem. He's got huge shoulders and a wide chest compared to his hips and legs. These don't get skinnier the more elongated he grows, they get even wider and bigger.
Think the sexual violence of Silent Hill's Pyramid Head, mid-life crisis dad Mr. Incredible, Bluebeard-equse bride killer Barkis from Corpse Bride, Zeus-expy Lord Gwyn from Dark Souls. It's about that inverted triangle figure that speaks to adult maleness. And from there, a common theme emerges - the dark sides of masculinity in the form of murder, assault, infidelity, and abuse of power.
Designs that want to add androgyny sometimes include both a hyper-masculine chest and shoulder PLUS a lithe emphasis on the limbs, like the xenomorph, or 80's rock glam.
Along those same lines, what softens Alastor's masculine silhouette is his shingle bob haircut. I have no idea if this is the intention, but Al's hair (as has been pointed out before) is a very close rendering of the female shingle bob of the roaring '20s, complete with shaved nape. Only his coiffed bangs break the clear comparison.
(Jordan Baker from the 2013 Great Gatsby film had a classic shingle bob. This flapper mainstay was intended to be androgynous and youthful.)
Alastor's beginning (humanized) designs were more 'scene' raccoon-tail hair. As time went on, the length shortened, but the shaggy edge cut remained. Perhaps at some point, the designers took to designing it after the shingle bob, as opposed to the Sasuke chop or Visual Kei rattails, but it's perfectly likely its just the modern evolution of Al's middle school beginnings.
Alastor's Acting Direction = overall masculine score of 2/10
Al's body language took a 400% increase in fruitiness since the pilot. A stage/entertainment persona will always be more flamboyant - and therefore 'less masculine' - but now he's got the limp wrist, the hip checks.
I hypothesize that this change came with Amir's acting. Sometimes the artists reference how the actor gestures during their recordings. Sometimes it's a case of going, "hmm, the body language is kinda understated compared to the VA, let's up the camp".
On a meta level, his effeminacy pairs well with his androgynous appearance ... HOWEVER, androgynous men can have strong feelings about their own manhood. The cross dressing queen of the 1980s expresses his masculinity through sex, not clothing, whilst the closeted stock broker husband does the opposite. An OnlyFans femmeboi has a purely male identity that morphs 'girls clothes' into 'HIS clothes', and his straight weeboo fan goes in the completely opposite direction to trans-spot people based off of length of hair or color of socks.
We don't know how Alastor's 'old fashioned'-ness translates into his relationship with masculinity, but we've picked up some cues: he tips his head to people and offers his arm to a lady. He takes the 'male' lead during partnered dances. He always covers 90% of his body, even in supplemental merch designs.
But he also dressed himself in a nun's habit for fun. He uses flamboyant hand gestures and modern campy slang. Al's been in hell for nearly a century at this point, and his appearance alone would be improper for a man of the 1930's (long hair, no hat).
Plus, people of the past weren't always as conservative as we might think. It's for sure a man living in roaring 20's/great depression-era New Orleans would have had close contact with the local queer crowd. Add onto that his mixed race, you've got a man who spent his living years with as much potential for social equity as the modern audience.
(The 'Pansy Craze' of flapper nightlife referred to drag performers and lgbt+ visibility in both American and European mainstream media. It would remain strong until the Hays Code and rise of Fascism.)
At the same time, the progressives of the past could hold views we'd find very shocking. The pioneering civil rights activist W.E.B. Du Bois was an advocate for government eugenics (which was considered a liberal movement, btw). Susan B. Anthony HATED the idea of the black man voting.
For all we know, Alastor represents the man who loves women, but also the practice of being more competent than the woman. He's there to provide his services 'cause women need him. And on that note, we've one more angle to tackle Al's masculinity:
Alastor's Motives = overall (hypothesized) masculine score of 7/10
There's one Alastor trivia that we pay extra attention to: his reputation as a 'momma's boy'. From there, a lot of us have headcanoned him as being the neglected, illegitimate child from a mixed union. The Jim Crow laws during the turn of the century would have forbidden anybody of the "one drop rule" of marrying a white person. Was his father a white man who abused his illegitimate family?
There was a very, VERY slim chance that a woman of color with a bastard son had disposable income. Alastor was in his early 40's when he died in 1933, which meant he lived through the latter years of the 1800's. The times of horses and dirt roads. You ever played RDR2 and strolled through Saint Denis? Yeah, if mom and Al lived there, it would have been in the shanty shacks of the segregated slums.
(Rockstar made great lengths to condense real-life 1899 New Orleans into the fictional Saint Denis. On the outskirts of the city, populations of color live in neglected neighborhoods.)
We don't know if show canon will ever make a character's living years a plot point. After all, Angel Dust was a full on WW2 vet mobster. Vox was (supposedly) a cult leader. Husk lived through 5 wars and the moon landing. We can see hints of these origins in the show proper, but not a full-on flashback of someone's tragic origin story.
By Alastor's estimated birth date, USA slavery had been outlawed for roughly 40 years, but it was a slow process that involved individual states doing their own thing, and lobbies disrupting the process, A 24-year-old mother in Louisiana wouldn't have been born into the slave trade, but her own parents likely might have been involved.
This is assuming Alastor is mixed Black specifically. We don't know for sure: his creole ethnicity and association with voodoo screams Haitian descended, but perhaps he's First Nations, or SEA, etc. But all nonwhite races suffered during his time. It would have been illegal for him to work in the same building as white people. He couldn't touch the same bibles, or the same watering holes, or the same seats in public transit.
Common work for the financially insecure woman would have been hard labor like a laundress, farm labor, livestock husbandry, scullery maid, and other dirty jobs that had her enter through the back door, out of sight. She might have earned 30-50 cents a day. As attitudes changed for the slightly better, she could have found work as an in-house maid, nanny, seamstress, retail clerk, or a switchboard operator for the new-fangled telephone industry.
During all of that, we have an adolescent Alastor who's starting to find his way. He could have wrangled a spotty education from the nuns at church, which got his foot in the door when it came time to earn a proper payroll. Perhaps he has a military career from WW1 to help cushion things. Perhaps he was able to pass 'white enough' to work directly for the privileged white man.
(Being an Overlord is a dead-ringer to being a slave owner. You become more powerful by the quantity of those you 'own'. The imagery of chains is unmistakable. Having the two black characters - both having Overlord experience - be the ones who bring it to the forefront muddles the waters of Hell's soul economy.)
Vox is a much more blatant visage of toxic masculinity, and he makes an effort to broadcast himself as a sea captain, a pope, and a chef. Lucifer follows the same lines and has himself be a referee, a 'Boss', and another chef role. Alastor, on the other hand, he's the nun and the busboy. His two hired minions become the maid and bartender, while he has a not-particularly-glamorous-but-vital job of facilities maintenance.
Vox and Lucifer - two grandstanding masculine characters - see themselves as the leaders. Alastor in comparison values the hidden labor of domestic staff. Even down to the eggbois. In life, there would have been almost no way a man of color would be the chef, captain, ref, king, boss, whatever. He'd truly be the busboy, the maid, the bartender.
If we're gonna take his mixed heritage at face value, we already have a mess of suppression he had to contend with. Then he gets his demon powers. And suddenly, the hierarchy of race and privilege gets to be toppled. By his hand.
Maybe not as a conscious 'fuck the white man' sort of decision. But instead a 'I worked HARD to get to where I am now, and I'm gonna milk it for all its worth."
("Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.")
The male entitlement of the white man is different from the man of color. But it's still there. My Asian brothers compare themselves to whiteness for sure, but they also compare themselves to their Asian sisters. And there is a certain masculinity entitlement that's implanted within them.
Simply put, men of color see themselves as the main contender to the white man. If they get that slice of pie, they don't see themselves standing next to their women counterparts. They don't see themselves working next to - or under - the white woman. If it was a 'fair' slice of the pie (from their perspective), it's a matter of breaking through the white male barrier in lieu of the man of color. Women are an afterthought.
Alastor isn't after the Senior Manager promotion or whatever. We're not sure what he's after, but it rings of a bid for freedom. He feels constrained and chained down. His abilities are muzzled. He's likely had a long time of 'earning' his place as a feared Overlord, and now it's threatened.
And look: I get it, liberty is certainly not a gendered aspiration. If anything, it's associated with the downtrodden, not the entitled. But its the situationship of a man suddenly losing his birthright liberation that would make aspirations for freedom drenched in his masculinity.
We see this in ep. Dad Beat Dad specifically. He is seething with contempt the moment Lucifer barges into the hotel doors, and immediately tries to fill the 'paternal' shoes of Charlie's emotional support. Al only calms the fuck down once he gets to monster-munch a large group of hotel invaders, and from then on, he's seemingly not threatened by Lucifer finally making a proper fatherly connection to his daughter.
(A king is the 'father' of his people. As an actual christian angel, he's the divine emperor patriarch of hell. There's something to be said about a man who feels very threatened by this.)
'Cause Alastor's 'father' beef isn't so much for Charlie as it's for the hotel. Lucifer and Alastor battle for the position of 'dad', but more accurately they're battling for the position of 'patriarch'. The Hazbin Hotel is Alastor's labor of love as much as it is Charlie's. It's a position of power he'll fight hard to prove.
There are those who see the sexless man as less masculine. And not just sexless as in 'not sexually active', but also the man who has no relationship to marriage and fatherhood. The boyish, slobbery, depressed Eddie of Silent Hill 2 has no interest in protecting the wandering child character, whilst James (the player character) is stuck in Silent Hill 'cause of dead wife problems and he expresses concern for the child. By the end game, it's the sexless Eddie who packs this huge magnum revolver and initiates some fucked up boss battle in a meat locker full of hanging pig carcasses. A villain of toxic masculinity whose aggression stems from a lack of healthy sexuality.
In a different world, Alastor might also be the sexless masculine disaster. He is not a sexual figure in his wardrobe, or canon sexual orientation (asexual). His relationship with women lack romance, sex, or marriage. He's a cannibal; someone who desecrates flesh.
He DOES have this ... very tentative, spotty, and developing relationship with fatherhood. Not just with Charlie, but also with Niffty (who is 22 compared to Alastor's early 40's). Even singing to the children of Cannibal Town could be a nod to a grown man not being entirely sexless.
True to Hazbin Hotel being dedicated to breaking the mold, Alastor's sexless character instead softens him. We make an abrupt switch from the 'evil deal-making devil man' to 'cute guy has an actual human side his friend pokes fun at' within 10 minutes. This is in stark opposition to the sexless male archtype before this point.
In a world where the sexless masculine monster becomes murderous because of his sexual problems, Alastor is an outlier.
I believe he's still written to have his masculinity linked to his violence, just not through the sexual lens.
Alastor's Overall Masculinity Score = 7/10
Higher than you might have thought? It surprises me, too, but I retain that the current canon Alastor of Season 1 is a very subtle exploration of maleness through violence and a yearning for power. We see it in his bid for freedom - which is actually a self-entitled bid for power. We see it in his mark of ownership of the hotel. We see it in his self-reliance as a man of competence and skill.
The male antagonist of this caliber can go in so many fascinating directions. We want to see him crash and burn, for sure. We want to see that maleness taste a bit of well-earned karma.
One of the most popular children's toys of Alastor's estimated birth year (1890's):
(The Children's Bicycle was part of the cycling boom of the Victorian and Edwardian era. Market saturation made these luxury toys a touch more affordable than they used to be - this one priced at $20 - but that would still equate to roughly $800 in today's money, back when daily wages were $1-$2 a day.)
One of the most popular children's toys of Vox's estimated birth year (1900's):
(Sold by famed architect John Lloyd Wright, Lincoln Logs were originally made out of bonafide California redwood, and marketed to kids of all ages and genders. A full set cost $4, the same buying power as $150 today.)
One off the most popular children's toys of Husk's estimated birth year (1900's):
(The Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls were amongst the first sold with an additional product tie-in. In this case, children's storybooks. The little picture books would be sold for cheap, and the dolls themselves often retailed for $2, roughly $60 today.)
One of the most popular children's toys of Angel Dust's estimated birth year (1910's):
(Wooden Red Wagons had been handmade by parents for decades at this point. Immigrant Antonio Pasin started producing and selling them in toy shops, which grew into a nation wide corporation, and from there he invented the stamped steel Radio Flyer pulley wagon. It would be sold for $10 until steel became more premium.)
One of the most popular children's toys of Niffty's estimated birth year (1930's):
(Stereoscopes had been a known technology since 1832. The brand new View Master used newly-invented color film to make vibrant 3D images. At first, the reels focused on landscapes, but later expanded to feature movie stars and cartoon characters. A View Master sold for $2, while a pack of seven reels cost $1.50.)
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Alastor Headcanons: His Body, Anatomy, and Sexuality
His Hellish, cervine body has a light, single-coated coat. He would get molts if Hell had photoperiodism, so if you want an Al that gets floof during the fall and winter, then thank the longer nights and cooler air.
By square inch, deer have more hair follicles than humans, but not Alastor. So even though he’s got visible down on every exposed bit of skin, it’s not particularly dense, making it ineffective at thermoregulating - it doesn’t block enough sun, doesn’t regulate the heat, and doesn’t parse cool air. He’s lucky that he’s a Louisiana-summer-swamp homebody, otherwise Hell’s heat would suck.
If Al ever took a modern health check whilst alive, he’d learn he’s prone to hypotension and high cholesterol. Casual cocaine consumption also messed up his gastrointestinal system, putting him at a high risk of ulcers and hernias. Luckily, he never got one of those ‘cause the surgeries available at the time for ulcers had a whopping 33% mortality rate. He did have repeated potty problems, though, and it was public knowledge that cocaine was the cause. Didn’t stop him.
Heck, I’m not sure if I headcanon Hellaverse bodies as having the same properties of their living counterparts. If they do, then Al’s high meat consumption + cocaine use = nasty shits. He’d be constantly dehydrated, with a horrible acid reflux. And that’s not even taking into account if he drinks alcohol, coffee, or smokes tobacco.
When mortal, Alastor’s body hair was curly, and there was a single very sparse stripe of minimal hair down his sternum that really only betrayed how svelte his figure was, if anything. By adulthood, he had long since accepted that he’d never be the image of masculine fevor.
And yes, the dick has also changed upon death. It didn’t outright turn into an actual deer’s dick, but it now rests inside a pouchy sheath to protect its coat-less flesh. He actually likes that development. Extra coverings. Nature’s own athletic cup.
His asexuality + his age (early forties) means that he has trouble getting it up. If he’s ever getting down and dirty, half the time it’s ¾ mast at most, and it won’t stay hard for long. A lot of his cums are dry, limp ones, and only if he makes the effort at all.
Sinner bodies change based off of what they like about themselves, what they don’t like about themselves, and are largely intended to be ironic caricatures. Alastor’s very aware of the whole ‘deer symbolism’ thing he’s got going on. As the years went on, he also noticed that his chest expands in direct relation to his antlers, and so does his scrotum. Yeah, you heard me.
Basically, I headcanon that Hell sometimes takes a Silent Hill-esque tulpar approach to a sinner’s body. A buck’s rack is symbolic of masculinity, and so is violence. The more bloodthirsty Alastor feels, the more his body morphs its superficial masculine traits. Popular fanon has Al’s father been abusive whilst his mother a supportive and loving figure. In Alastor’s world, violence is masculine.
And by the way, did you know that deer antlers are actually a controlled form of cancer? It begins as cartilage supplied by blood vessels and living tissue, then turns into bone and dies, sitting there as dead weight until the skull decides to sever it. Alastor’s antlers aren’t bone, they’re carbon - the hardest element in mammal bodies, lightly conductive to electricity, and a great transceiver for radio signals. His talons are the same. Sharpened carbon/iron is very deadly.
Alastor’s radio powers have a hard limit on their bandwidth - he can only use the lowest and widest wavelengths. So no atomic powers for him. He can’t even microwave his enemies. Radio waves can transmit very far and deep, but have the lowest effect on atoms. AKA, they’re perfect for relaying sounds and images without irradiating a country.
Now, radio waves need a transceiver to broadcast. Alastor’s entire body is one big transceiver, with his antlers acting as antenna, his body bulk encoding the frequency modulation, and his feet electricity conductors that receive energy from the ground. If none of his body is connected to a power source (like, he’s floating in the air or something), he can still do radio shit, but only AM waves, like real-life radios before electricity.
Now, all that frequency translation takes its toll on the body. Constantly passing low-vibration waves throughout his organs mean a weak heart, varicose veins, brittle bones, lung inflammation, and more. All that, combined with his low BMI and poor diet means he is a sickly man. Tuck into the bedsheets like a dying Victorian child sort of sickly. A doctor from his lifetime would be prescribing him a diet of milk toast and citric acid tablets.
You know he’s letting huge walls down if he so much as coughs whilst in your presence. In public, he’d never be seen rubbing at his aching chest or slouching from his cramping intestines. He’s got an Image to put on, after all.
Don’t coddle his various aches and pains. He knows perfectly well why his body is fucked up, and he doesn’t intend to do anything about it. To him, his wack deer form is riddled with battle scars, proof of his power and hard work.
Charlie represents the shallow, self-righteous ideal of redemption. The Christian-based morality of avoiding pre-marital sex, not being a user, etc, and if you follow these oppressive rules, anybody could be redeemed!!
Alastor represents vengence, the cop in your head, the pay-evil-unto-evil. His name means 'vengence', his whole shtick is preying after fellow Overlords. No, not everyone can be redeemed. Some deserve their place in hell.
I'd love to see the both of them grow as the show continues.
at some point, you're gonna have to realize that the all-loving christianity in your head doesn't match the one that a queer woman animator might face.
Bastardized biblical narrative of sacred texts → satirical critique of Christian morals
Flawed representation of sexual and racial minorities → diverse expanse of demographics in various stages of life
My point? There's a difference between an objective critique versus what kind of penmanship you'd rather see on screen. You don't order a milkshake at a home depot. You don't offer an honest critique that aims to make a vision less of what it is, as opposed to a critique aimed to better its goal.
A fair critique: Alastor's magic sometimes has random vevè floating around. Louisiana Voodoo is a closed practice, which makes the creative use of its symbols appropriation. Iwa beacons don't suddenly manifest and fly around like sparkles according to Voodoo religion.
A fair critique: The relationship between Alastor's mixed race, his association with Voodoo, his cannibalism, his violence, his poppet imagery, it aligns very close to real-life lawful persecution of New Orleans Voodoo, which was broadcasted to include cannibalism and blood sacrifices.
A fair critique: The large, bell-shaped stiffness of Alastor's coat means that the animators have to struggle with compromising its starch-stiff form. Do they have it swing like fabric should? Or do we have it pop into place whenever Alastor turns around, and have it conspicuously and awkwardly look like botched animation timing?
A "critique": Alastor's head is bigger than his torso, you can't see his antlers clearly, and having him on the side of the good guys is glorifying ___.
I'm not saying people shouldn't express their own preferences, their gripes, and their biased criticism. Far from it.
But this might be your wake-up call to realizing that your 'criticism' has been biased gripes all along, and not the fair perspective you thought it was.
Hazbin Hotel does not criticize redemption at any point, Charlie continues to insist on it and the ''war'' was because Adam decided to kindly warn that he would attack the Hotel first, so Charlie was just preparing a defense. We have rumors that Viv plans to redeem even the V's and Sir Pentiuos' redemption only strengthens Charlie's ''argument''. This series ends up falling into misinformation about how christian morality works.
If she wanted to criticize the Institutionalization of the Church then she should have made sure that Heaven had either very rigid rules (which could be ignored by superiors) or arbitrary rules that changed in favor of whoever was in power, but never do something like ''the Heaven doesn't know what makes someone go to Paradise'', by doing this Heaven cannot be classified as ''the corrupt boss'' but rather as one of the confused soldiers who can only try to continue doing their job. And I'm not even going to talk about the fact that, apparently, Hell really tried to attack Heaven, that is, the Exterminios were not an unfounded decision.
We've only seen one layer of heaven's management. Obviously, something is pulling the strings 'cause Pentious' revival was purposeful - to what end, we don't know, but even if the judicial court doesn't know the rules, that doesn't mean heaven is completely unmanaged, does it?
Plus, we also don't know HOW, exactly, are the characters gonna be redeemed. If Valentino gets redeemed by repenting his adultery, then yeah that would go against HH's satire of christian morality. But if Husk gets redeemed yet still continues to enjoy gambling and drinking, then that'd be an example of pointing out that, hey, the concept of christian sins are arbitrary; none of those are sins in other cultures. If Val gets redeemed but still continues to sexually assault people, then that'd also be a critique along the same lines.
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Bastardized biblical narrative of sacred texts → satirical critique of Christian morals
Flawed representation of sexual and racial minorities → diverse expanse of demographics in various stages of life
My point? There's a difference between an objective critique versus what kind of penmanship you'd rather see on screen. You don't order a milkshake at a home depot. You don't offer an honest critique that aims to make a vision less of what it is, as opposed to a critique aimed to better its goal.
A fair critique: Alastor's magic sometimes has random vevè floating around. Louisiana Voodoo is a closed practice, which makes the creative use of its symbols appropriation. Iwa beacons don't suddenly manifest and fly around like sparkles according to Voodoo religion.
A fair critique: The relationship between Alastor's mixed race, his association with Voodoo, his cannibalism, his violence, his poppet imagery, it aligns very close to real-life lawful persecution of New Orleans Voodoo, which was broadcasted to include cannibalism and blood sacrifices.
A fair critique: The large, bell-shaped stiffness of Alastor's coat means that the animators have to struggle with compromising its starch-stiff form. Do they have it swing like fabric should? Or do we have it pop into place whenever Alastor turns around, and have it conspicuously and awkwardly look like botched animation timing?
A "critique": Alastor's head is bigger than his torso, you can't see his antlers clearly, and having him on the side of the good guys is glorifying ___.
I'm not saying people shouldn't express their own preferences, their gripes, and their biased criticism. Far from it.
But this might be your wake-up call to realizing that your 'criticism' has been biased gripes all along, and not the fair perspective you thought it was.
Bastardized biblical narrative of sacred texts → satirical critique of Christian morals
Flawed representation of sexual and racial minorities → diverse expanse of demographics in various stages of life
My point? There's a difference between an objective critique versus what kind of penmanship you'd rather see on screen. You don't order a milkshake at a home depot. You don't offer an honest critique that aims to make a vision less of what it is, as opposed to a critique aimed to better its goal.
A fair critique: Alastor's magic sometimes has random vevè floating around. Louisiana Voodoo is a closed practice, which makes the creative use of its symbols appropriation. Iwa beacons don't suddenly manifest and fly around like sparkles according to Voodoo religion.
A fair critique: The relationship between Alastor's mixed race, his association with Voodoo, his cannibalism, his violence, his poppet imagery, it aligns very close to real-life lawful persecution of New Orleans Voodoo, which was broadcasted to include cannibalism and blood sacrifices.
A fair critique: The large, bell-shaped stiffness of Alastor's coat means that the animators have to struggle with compromising its starch-stiff form. Do they have it swing like fabric should? Or do we have it pop into place whenever Alastor turns around, and have it conspicuously and awkwardly look like botched animation timing?
A "critique": Alastor's head is bigger than his torso, you can't see his antlers clearly, and having him on the side of the good guys is glorifying ___.
I'm not saying people shouldn't express their own preferences, their gripes, and their biased criticism. Far from it.
But this might be your wake-up call to realizing that your 'criticism' has been biased gripes all along, and not the fair perspective you thought it was.
Charlie represents the shallow, self-righteous ideal of redemption. The Christian-based morality of avoiding pre-marital sex, not being a user, etc, and if you follow these oppressive rules, anybody could be redeemed!!
Alastor represents vengence, the cop in your head, the pay-evil-unto-evil. His name means 'vengence', his whole shtick is preying after fellow Overlords. No, not everyone can be redeemed. Some deserve their place in hell.
I'd love to see the both of them grow as the show continues.
In the first episode, Adam asks Lute how many she (personally) killed this extermination, and it was 275. Lute, being a top commander in the army, probably has a higher kill count than most. Your given exorcist likely isn't racking a kill count in the hundreds.
There's never more than a handful of exorcists on screen at a time, but they do animate amorphous blobs representing a large crowd when the second extermination happens. The exorcist army probably consist of at least a thousand, perhaps up to 10,000.
Carmilla Carmine says that the initial extermination was far more deadly than most, resulting in 16% gone.
She also says that, together, the Overlords collectively own 'millions of souls'.
The current population of earth IRL is 7.900+ billion. Assume that only the Christian-adjacent population are at risk of being condemned to HH's hell, estimated to be 2.300+ billion. Maybe a bit more than half go to hell, making it 1.150+ billion.
16% of 1,150 billion is 1,840 million.
There are 1,000 millions in a billion. The Overlords could collectively own as many as 9,999 million souls, or as low as 2,000 million souls.
So, which estimate do you think is most likely?
Hell's Pride Ring houses 1-2 billion sinner souls.
It houses >900 million souls.
It houses half of the entire world's population, around 3-4 billion.
We know that the Pride Ring is overpopulated. The entire square miles of habitable earth is roughly 57 million. Half of that would be 28.5 million, a bit smaller than Australia. 4 billion people inhabiting Australia would certainly count as overpopulation. For 1-2 billion people, it could be as large as Argentina, possibly as small as Mongolia (60 thousand square miles). For 900 million people, which is India's current population (and is struggling with overpopulation IRL), it could be as small as Iran, or Mongolia.
So, which estimate of the Pride Ring is most likely?
Similar to Australia (28.5 million square miles)
Similar to all of Asia (17 million square miles)
Similar to India (1.2 million square miles)
Similar to Mongolia (6 hundred thousand square miles)
Similar to Japan (3 hundred thousand square miles)
Alastor's Whitewashing And Appropriation (Hazbin Hotel Discourse)
Now that Hazbin Hotel is entering mainstream consciousness, it's a good opportunity to bring attention towards some issues that need addressing.
Indie queer productions have an unfortunate trend of propagating racism, sexism, transphobia, ableism, etc. That's nothing new, and we all have to come to terms with it. A good way to do that? Just get the conversation going. Put the word out there that, 'hey, I have sincere complaints about ___.'
Alastor is, without a doubt, one of the most popular characters of the main cast. We can celebrate the victory of Alastor being a beloved canonical aroace character, while also criticizing his flaws.
Mainly - his race, his cultural appropriation, and his strong link towards racialized violence.
(1) Alastor is canonically mixed race Creole. His skin is medium-toned, but fanartists are sometimes drawing him as light-toned.
Although we don't know his full ethnic makeup, Alastor is canonically portrayed with a darker skintone than some fanartists choose to depict him as, whether in his current demon form, or a fanon-popularized mortal form.
'Creole' isn't a race, it's an ethnicity, and Creole people can have any array of complexions. But that doesn't excuse the trend of literally bleaching his canonical skin hue.
As many people have pointed out, it'd make a lot of sense if Alastor was specifically mixed black, thanks to his association with voodoo, and also according to Depression-era racial census of New Orleans. We know that mixed race black people can look like Pete Wentz, Vin Diesel, and Wentworth Miller. Him being relatively pale, with a pointy nose and straight hair, it wouldn't contradict a black identity.
In the show proper, there's been a wild array of lighting effects, and they also put a shallow gradient burn over the bottom half of the screen at most times, which can complicate accurate skintone shade picking. But you can clearly see that Alastor is darker than many other characters, and is more similar to characters voiced by people of color - Niffty, Vaggie, Carmilla. In fact, his skincolor value is on par with Vaggie's, just with more saturation, giving it the illusion that it's brighter.
(2) Haitian Voudo/Louisiana Voodoo is a closed and heavily marginalized practice. Cannibalism and violence have been long-standing smear campaigns made against it.
A 'closed practice' means that you need to be initiated into it, not just choose to practice it. New Orleans Voodoo has been couched in political prosecution since its inception, and continues to be marginalized. According to the historian Carolyn Morrow Long, "Voodoo, as an organized religion, had been thoroughly suppressed by the legal system, public opinion, and Christianity." Because of its association with free black people (and the country of Haiti), you can imagine the hate crimes it's faced for decades.
Some of its most infamous fearmongering included reports of human sacrifices, cannibalism, and animalistic orgies. "{...} the Westerns’ view on Vodou was proof that the “black republic ‘’ cannot claim to be civilized."
So of course, a mixed-race cannibalistic serial killer using 'evil' magic couched in floating vevè symbols can leave a bad taste in the mouth. Just because the symbols are accurate ones doesn't mean the misappropriation isn't there.
It has never been blatantly stated that Alastor is a Voodoo practitioner, or has any real history in Louisiana Voodoo, aside from in the pilot where Charlie briefly says the word 'voodoo' in reference to Alastor's magic. But the inclusion of actual vevè symbols is a solid enough connection. And it's an unfortunate one.
Compare with Disney's Princess And The Frog, where the directors made an effort to include Mama Odie as a more accurate depiction of a manbo, while the antagonist Dr. Facilier is hinted as not being able to practice real voodoo at all. There are more delicate and considerate ways to approach Alastor's association with Hollywood 'voodoo', and hopefully, we will get to see them as the show goes on.
(3) Wendigos are specifically from Algonquin folklore. Many pop culture interpretations of Wendigos are inappropriately abstracted from its cultural context.
Canonically, Alastor's demon form resembles a deer because he was mistaken for a deer by a hunter, and shot square in the forehead. We've seen him let out elk bugle sounds, and also his antlers growing in conjunction with his power. When he puts his game face on, his entire body gets spindly, his teeth grow sharper and longer, his hands turn into huge claws, and he sometimes eats his victims alive.
This, of course, is making some viewers ring comparisons to 'wendios', thanks to Alastor's large appetite and preference for human flesh.
Similar to his 'voodoo' connection, the show has never gone on record to say Alastor is supposed to be a Wendigo, or that his history and appearance was meant to invoke a Wendigo. The connection here is a bit weaker than his Hollywood voodoo, and it's mostly an audience reaction that I find questionable.
For those who don't know, a Wendigo is specifically from Algonquian folklore. a malevolent spirit who eats people and is never sated. English-speaking audiences owe their awareness of Wendigos to Stephen King, The X-Files, Supernatural, Until Dawn, and more. Very few of these depictions were respectful towards indigenous culture. Most of the time, 'wendigos' have been almost entirely divorced from its indigenous American contexts.
It's a classic example of appropriation. They take some cultural facet from a marginalized people, do minimal research, and depict it with little owe towards its creators. That's insulting no matter who you are. It's a form of violence when the culture is a persecuted one.
A character can be a skinny deer demon that eats people without trying to cash in on the whole 'wendigo' thing. This might be what Alastor is supposed to be, but the audience is using the word 'wendigo' inappropriately.
So. In one single character, we've got the whitewashing, the Voodoo and Wendigo appropriation, the anti-Blackness, and an overall racism.
It's no surprise that Alastor remains one of the most divisive characters of the show.
This would be like, if Niffty (voiced by Japanese-American Kimiko Glenn) kept being drawn as a pale woman with bulbous blue eyes, had weird radioactive atomic powers thanks to her method of death back in the '40's, and was obsessed with spearing people through their stomach with long blades. It's not super great.
So far, Hazbin Hotel's canon material has avoided many of the overtly bigoted humor and hijinks so common in adult TV, and that's something of a victory. But what's not problematic doesn't cancel out what is.
The more a reasonable criticism is circulated amongst its audience, the more driven the creative team is to pay attention.
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Imagine if the whole entire seasons-long scheme Alastor clearly seems to be setting up by getting Charlie to make a deal with him ends up completely falling apart...
...simply because he specified that Charlie wouldn't have to HURT ANYONE.
Like it's pretty clear that at the time, Alastor made that caveat simply as a way to assuage any concerns Charlie might have and get her to take the deal. And to a nihilistic, self-centered cynic like Alastor, it probably didn't seem like a big deal. After all, so long as he doesn't ask Charlie to directly hurt anyone, he can get her to do just about anything. Say... doing something that would sever his contract with Lilith or something that would grant him incredible power.
But the funny thing is... 'not hurting anyone' is a very general, very BROAD caveat. With a LOT of ways it could be interpreted.
And someone as both kind and thoughtful as Charlie is WELL aware that actions have consequences.
Therefore, even if a request from Alastor did not require Charlie to directly hurt anyone, if fulfilling that request would lead to someone being hurt... well that would mean that Charlie would be hurting that person.
And imagine if by this point, Alastor has made it clear that HE wants to hurt people. In fact, all he wants is to hurt people.
So if his request to Charlie would enable his ability to hurt people... then that would mean that CHARLIE would have hurt people.
And just like that, Alastor's deal with Charlie becomes absolutely USELESS to him. Because Charlie can see where the results of her actions would lead, Alastor CAN'T ask her for anything that would lead to someone being hurt. Therefore he CAN'T ask her for anything he actually wants.
Or heck, maybe this could be taken even further:
Imagine if Alastor gets everything he wants from his request to Charlie. Freedom from his contract to Lilith, freedom from Hell and likely a LOT of power to go with it! He finally has EVERYTHING he's ever wanted!
...and then Alastor discovers that he simply... can't actually HURT anyone.
Because the ONE term of his contract with Charlie is that Charlie 'wouldn't have to hurt anyone' by fulfilling his request. Therefore, Alastor CAN'T hurt anyone now, because that would mean that Charlie would have hurt someone.
Thus, Alastor frees himself of Lilith's leash... only to find that he has unwittingly put himself on Charlie's leash.