sometimes i have strong opinions but they're also so inane that halfway through writing a post i'll be like "yeah, this is Absolutely not worth the energy it's taking" and delete everything. but then the opinion is still in my head. and i still want to share it. so within five minutes i go "you know, i bet i can phrase it more succinctly this time" and anyway. you all see where this is going. sometimes i do this four times in a row before i give up on the specific inane opinion and instead write a vague post about the concept of opinions as if that'll satisfy the urge to post the entirety of my inner monologue online. may or may not be relevant to what you're reading right now. and now all our lives have been enriched. you're welcome
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"there's like 8 rich guys standing between us and shorter working hours / week" posting is fine until you think about it for two seconds and realize that the most rabidly anti-reformist group of people are the people with a bar and two employees who would amputate one of their worker's arms if it meant getting a 0.8% income tax cut
right wing handwringing over birth rates has always unsubtly been a combination of wanting more white babies/wanting control over women, so it's bothersome that the popular response to that is just pointing out the cost of living. "we Would be having more kids if you guys made some positive changes to society" and such. pronatalist sentiment is becoming so much more explicit that I don't think many self-styled progressives are ready to reconcile with the fact that many women simply do not want to have children. we already see how women are demonized for refusing to undertake the thankless burdens of their mother and grandmother's generations lol, I can't imagine how full abdication from child rearing will come across to some people.
I can't even see "we Would be having kids" as a strategic approach to get conservatives to consider advocating for a higher quality of life considering that they truly could not care less if you, specifically, are poor. it's true that more couples would have kids if it was cheaper, but that will not be enough for these types until women's subservience is codified. even now, they consider the lack of child rearing in today's insane society to be a matter of selfishness. they view themselves as completely different animals than you. they have and will continue to advocate for more advantages for people of their specific backgrounds and income brackets to reinforce this lol.
I think this rhetoric also ignores that the right wing want the inverse for Black and brown people - this logic of âraise living standards and weâll have more kidsâ is a white perspective that ignores white supremacist medical violence, forced abortions, forced sterilisation, mass deportations, mass incarceration, police murder, imperial aggression, and forced removal of children from families as institutional programs of population control (Canadian residential schools, for example, were built for this exact purpose).
Increasing white birth rates is only one half of the equation for the right wing, and this raising-living-standards rhetoric fails to address this completely. Even in the outlandish scenario where the right wing accepts this logic and institutes robust welfare programs, do people think the state will offer these things to black, brown, and indigenous people? In any scenario where this happens it would just be Aryan UBI
i wish we were able to talk about women's rights without someone mentioning how much they do or don't want to have sex with them. i don't care if you're a lesbian Stop finding worth in women purely from their perceived attractiveness
"I think women should not be expected to shave for societal respect / to avoid discrimination" "yeah𤤠i love bush" ok well that's not what we're talking about is it.
i hate how many posts about trans women deserving respect always devolve into "I love girldick" or "trans rights but I don't want to date a trans person" because that's entirely unrelated to the topic at hand. you should not respond to feminism with "YESSS I loveeee you because I see you as nothing but a sex object" you people sound like other men I get stuck talking with that end up saying "free the nipple so I can see boobies in public" and thinking they're feminists. why can't we just respect women regardless of your attraction to them or not. why does it need to be brought up in every conversation regarding their rights
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been reading cicero's rant about words being given obscene meanings and i don't think i've ever seen a latin sentence that made me burst into such immediate and violent laughter before
had a couple people be like "i have no idea what this means" so to clarify: the word penis in latin originally meant tail and only later got the sense of, uh. penis. so this is cicero complaining that nowadays all these hooligans are using the word "penis" for naughty purposes
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Nolanâs Odyssey thoughts. I brought in a notebook and filled 9.5 pages of scribbled thoughts throughout the three hours I was suffering. I hated this movie and I really tried to go into it with an open mind as much as possible and damn it really sucks. This movie really put the no in nostos.
(obviously spoilers ahead)
Random big thoughts
This movie felt like it was made for high school English teachers to show but then 95% of the way through making it, they were like actually nevermind and added in some f-bombs and a few (like 2-3 nonsexual nudity) shots of asses to solve the problem.Â
Odysseus hates the gods and at times barely believes in them, but also refuses to push back against anything that could be seen as a prophecy. Itâs so fucking weird because itâs equivalent to a modern atheist being like âChristianity is dumb and probably a crock of bullshit, also donât lie because itâs a sin and God will be madâ.
I wrote this down verbatim, âAn Odysseus that hesitates about returning to Ithaca is like the sun hesitating to riseâ and I do believe I cooked with that. Same is true with a Penelope that doubts Odysseus and a Telemachus that doesnât need a father, which this movie has.
Hereâs the thing, up until Odysseus lands in Ithaca, the movie is fine. It isnât good, it isnât horrific, itâs a little cringe and a little irritating for me as an enjoyer of the Odyssey, but it wasnât bad. If I turned off my brain from know-it-all Greek mythology enjoyer Asha to action movie enjoyer Asha, I think I could have had a decent time. However, it all falls apart when Odysseus returns home, any ounce of characterization is crushed to bits and it just sucks and makes no sense. Reminder, I honestly enjoyed the Troy: Fall of a City miniseries so accuracy is not always my hill to die on but god, I would like the hill to at least be in eyesight.
Random little thoughts (in no order)
UGLYYYYYYY ass costumes like I knew they were bad but itâs such an eyesore. There was not a single outfit that I was like âthat looks niceâ.
This is one of the first movies Iâve ever seen where I wanted MORE gore and MORE things that made me sick to my stomach. Like, show me Odysseusâs men starving, show me blood spraying down when men are taken by Scylla, show me more soldiers drowning.Â
They massacred the characterization of every woman (fork found in kitchen, Nolan canât write women, but still)
Thereâs a lot of things in this film that changing from poem to movie was pointless. My most memorable example of this being that Eumaeus is visually impaired, Eumaeus also at one point says Odysseus was like a son to him. These arenât huge deals and donât affect the plot but to those amongst us who enjoy the Odyssey, itâs just annoying.
Iphigenia is sacrificed by Agamemnon before Odysseus leaves Ithaca?????????
Thereâs a lot of time and plot spent centered on Argos (yeah the dog).
Odysseus only has 3 ships the whole film, holyyyyy budget cuts.Â
On Calypsoâs island, Odysseus forgets everything because she keeps drugging him with lotus flowers. He doesnât remember how he got to her island, doesnât remember his family or Ithaca until she like⌠weans him off and he starts to remember that. He basically feels none of the time pass.
Half of Helenâs face is physically scarred from the Trojan War, itâs implied that Menelaus mutilated her. Thereâs a disgusting line where Menelaus says, âthis is the face that launched a thousand ships, although now it would maybe be five-hundred.â GROSS
The Laestrygonians look like cybermen and no I will not elaborate.
There is a scene where Athenaâs temple is destroyed in Troy and itâs implied that whatever happens to the temple, happens to the god. (like a soldier wacks off Athenaâs statueâs head, it switches to a scene of Athena being held down and nearly decapitated) Itâs a neat idea but in a movie where the gods are ridiculed by the main character, it just doesnât work.
No Achilles or Anticleia in the underworld SIGHHH
No Nestor or Peisistratus SIGGGGGHHHHHH they hate to see yappers represented.
Telemachus and Odysseusâs reunion is so ass, like thereâs no bout of emotional resonance at all, theyâre two worlds apart.
Telemachus sucks as a character Tom Holland you are British how did you make Telemachus so fucking American. No one talk to me about Telemachus he sucked so fucking bad in this movie.
No wedding bed anything insane and might I add fucking crazy. Again, this is classic Odyssey stuff.
At the end of the movie, Odysseus and Penelope travel west(?) and leave Telemachus as king of Ithaca, to honor the fallen soldiers. This is the Greek mythology equivalent of retired American couples moving to Florida I think.
The Cyclops
The cyclops doesnât speak to Odysseus (the men donât even know itâs a sentient being until after they stab it in the eye) which means we get no âNobodyâ scene which is already a travesty because I fear thatâs classic Odysseus. And I do feel like the cyclops being more of a monster ruins the whole point of it being about breaking xenia. If Polyphemus is just an unnamed monster, what makes him any different from Scylla or Charybdis??? Â
Small thing to be pissy about but to get past the cyclops they tied hay to their back instead of hanging from the bellies of the sheep.
We also get no scene of hubris from Odysseus, again this is classic Odysseus.
The Suitors
Antinous called beggar Odysseus a âplatelickerâ and then after a few times I swear on my life he said âplatelickaâ it was insane and I wish I was jokingÂ
This movie creates a lot of Antinous lore that I think is fairly unnecessary since Antinous already had lore (Eupiethesâs pirate background) but let me explain the Antinous lore to the best of my memory.
So Odysseus holds a lottery for his army. A young Antinous and a younger Sinon draw lots and Antinous draws the lot that indicates he will fight. Sinon, maybe 13 years old, swaps their lots because he wants to go to war with Odysseus. Antinous (probably 16-18 years old) tries to protest but Odysseus wonât let them change back. Antinous interprets this as âOdysseus knew he might not come back and wanted me to be in charge of Ithacaâ.Â
Penelope is in the hall right before Odysseus starts killing, inaccurate but why I mention this here is because she doesnât let Melantho come with the women to safety. She leaves her in the hall to die in the slaughter. Now if you know me you know I am an Melantho ENJOYER and so I hate to see my girl done badly (maybe the Melantho shit will be itâs own rant).
Antinous x Melantho I CALLED THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT A YEAR AGO
In the end, Odysseus doesnât kill all the suitors (although he does kill Antinous). Insane because to make things right in Ithaca Odysseus HAS to kill the suitors. Itâs the reason that he kills the 12 disloyal maids in the poem because if they live, they represent his own failures blah blah blah whatever I hate it here.
The gods (or lack of)
Athena is the only god with form we see and Iâm going to be real honest with you, I didnât have the brain power to try to figure out what was going on with her.Â
Zeus does destroy the ship after the sun godâs cows thing and let me just say if you canât handle flashing lights this is not ur film because the lightning goes CRAZY and not in a good interesting way but in a âmy retinas are burned outâ way.
No Hermes and no Aeolus sorry my plot scaffolding kings.
âAsha, did you like anything in this movie?â
Probably surprising but yes. When Odysseusâs men are turned to pigs by Circe, she has to physically mold them from man to pigs so she like⌠rips their hair out and pulls their ears and pushes up their noses until they turn to pigs which was so fucking fascinating to me. I hated the Circe scenes with her and Odysseus but goddamn Nolan you cooked with that body horror. Like, if the ending of this movie wasnât hot garbage I would recommend it for that scene alone.
I also thought the scenes pre-Trojan war in Ithaca were cute, newlywed OdyPen and Odysseus being like a father figure to the younger men of Ithaca (maybe 2 mins of screen time altogether, not much to write home about but I enjoyed the scraps we got).
Soundtrack was good occasionally
Thatâs all I wanna write about for now. Who wants to start a GoFundMe for Homer to get a gun and a time machine to kill Nolan?