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celebrating and encouraging the slaughter of jews makes you a bad person, it is irrelevant to me what political camp you stand in

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It is so crazy to see how far the conversation surrounding the Jewish people has shifted. I know this horse has been beaten to death on here but I am constantly SHOCKED by the intensely antisemitic things that come not just from non-Jewish “progressives” that I know but from Jewish people themselves!!! “Israel had Charlie Kirk killed” “Israel is using blood of people to xyz” genuinely what are you talking about these are your people you’re talking about!!!
Not pertinent to anything in particular but I do think it's kinda weird that we keep depicting cavemen in media crawling around on all fours covered in dirt with tangled, matted hair, speaking in broken, cobbled-together toddler language when like.
They were us.
Like literally genetically they were US, just like. A while ago.
Like
Would you trust a TV caveman with a baby? Probably not
A real life caveman though??? I think they'd be at least okay at it
This is actually really important and comes up in Anthropology classes all. The. Time.
As long as homo sapiens have existed, we have had the same emotional and mental capacity as you and I do today. You nailed it. They were US. Even Neaderthals existed alongside and had offspring with Homo Sapiens for many thousands of years.
There's much evidence that cavemen would have had complex spoken language, culture (learned information passed down), symbolic interpretation, and I think they most certainly would have been able to handle holding a baby. In fact I have my suspicisions that an ancient homo sapiens mother may be a more present, attentive, and knowledgable mom than I could be today.
Do not let media trick you into believing we are the pinnacle of humanity. Unilinial evolution theory (google it quick I beg) is BUNK, GARBAGE, and the root of so much evil.
We've been human for a long, long time, and we are not inherently better than all those who came before.
One the most profound experiences of my life was visiting Font de Gaume, which has 12 thousand year old paintings. They use a technique where the horses appeared to run across the wall when seen in flickering firelight. There was a bison the wall staring at us with such attitude, I could practically hear him. I had the most profound feeling of those ancient artists reaching forward to lay their hands on my shoulders. To say, "This was my world." It was a profoundly moving experience.
Some years later, I went to the Orkney islands where we visited a tiny family run museum of artifacts from the chambered tomb at the other end of the farm. They handed me a pestle once held by some neolithci human.They'd worn groves where the thumb and forefinger would be for better grip.
One time, in a French history class, my teacher randomly at the end of the class had all of us draw a sketch of a horse. And we were all like ??? Okay???
At the beginning of the next class, my teacher showed us a cave painting of a horse. And then he showed all of our horses, which he had scanned and put into the presentation.
He then pointed out all the ways that our horses looked similar to the prehistoric horse. Same features, drawn from the same angle, etc.
And then he asked us, "Isn't it cool that you draw horses the same way as someone who lived 20,000 years ago?"
Yeah. That stuck with me for a while.
In Spain, there's a cave full of ancient, ice age era drawings of bison and reindeer and other animals of that period... And one small section of chaotic scribbles just a little away from everything else. These scribblesv were so incomprehensible, they were originally just called the 'Panel of Enigmatic Signs'... Until it occurred to someone that drawings only three feet off the ground probably weren't made by adults.
Scientists are now pretty sure the scribbles were made by kids ages 3-6, more or less on their own. The adult cave artists were probably doing what any modern parent might do when they want to keep small children out of their hair for awhile: they gave the kids some drawing tools of their own and a small section of wall to work on, out of the way but still close enough to keep an eye on them, and let them have at it.
What's most charming about the whole thing is the way the cave scribbles look exactly like what you'd find on the wall of a preschool today. Artistic styles vary widely across different times and cultures, but child development is as near to a universal human experience as it gets.
Wisher made detailed 3D scans of the drawings, which helped her understand the uneven pressure applied to the charcoal and the direction the lines were drawn. The team then compared the panel’s composition with age-appropriate artistic efforts by modern children. Kids across cultures go through the same developmental stages, which influence their physical ability to draw, until about the age of 6, Amir notes.
The team compared the ancient art with the developmental stages exhibited by modern children: the furiously scribbled circles and push-pull lines typical of 3-year-olds just learning to control their bodies, for example, or the wobbly, right-angled figures of slightly older kids beginning to master fine motor skills.
Both are apparent in the cave, superimposed on each other as though two or more kids were drawing at once. That’s a clue the Las Monedas marks were likely made by “siblings or a mixed-age play group within the sphere of safety around adults, but also within their own space,” says co-author Felix Riede, an Aarhus archaeologist.
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Adults at Las Monedas would have been aware of what the kids were doing and presumably had lit fires or torches; without ample firelight the cave is pitch black.
adding the paleolithic child scribble pic & my favorite quotes from the same article linked above:
“They’re experimenting to get to know materials that are important in their world. They’re not trying to draw animals, they’re just trying to break the charcoal.” [...]
The authors say the same combination of developmental psychology and archaeological analysis could be applied to “enigmatic” symbols in other ancient caves. “I hope this makes it easier to identify children’s art in the past,” Wisher says. “Our attention is drawn to figurative art, and we tend to overlook these small scribbles—but I think they exist. And that’s probably thanks to children, bored while mom and dad are making stag drawings.”
HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT
HADESTOWN NATION WE STAY WINNING
The answer to "How did these Ancient People do this????" is basically always
1. A lot of dudes. Just a ton of fucking people from beginning to end of the process.
2. Ancient people weren't stupid, they just figured shit out the same way we do: fuck around until you find out.
3. We're gonna plan this out and it's gonna take ten fucking years, and you will cope.
4. Sticks and string are surprisingly versatile and can be used for a variety of purposes, like moving stuff and making sure things are even and go in the spot you wanted to put them in!
5. I want to make this easier and more efficient to move. If I put this on the round thing and push, it will move. If I put this in water, it will move. If I get some animals and rope and have a whole bunch of them drag it, it will move. All of these things are a better option than one guy trying to pick the whole fucking thing up.
"I'm not calling the people who believe in this conspiracy theory racist" I am. They're racist. Maybe not out of malice, but the fact that they believe in this is in itself racist. These conspiracies are always about brown people. Machu Pichu, the Pyramids, Göbekli Tepe, Easter Island Rapa Nui, it is ALWAYS POC. It's never the Parthenon, it's never the Colliseum, despite the fact that these were built around the same time as some of the other sites these conspiracy chucklefucks like to throw around, it's never something fucking European. It's always "primitive people" with "stone tools" and "no understanding of modern engineering" so "clearly someone must have taught them this or given them the technology because CLEARLY they were just too Primitive and Savage to figure it out themselves." Fuck off with that shit.
Okay I need to correct this before I lose my mind
Wrong and oversimplified. Just because they didn't have modern OSHA didn't mean they did not have any kind of safety regs. Rope harnesses and scaffolding are well-recorded.
Wildly oversimplified. Weekends as we understand them may not have been a thing, but there were definitely shifts and designated days off because people have families and contrary to popular belief a lot of cultures had actual paid labourers and artisans building things, and they tended to have guilds and organisations that REQUIRED time off to be given. Yes, including slaves, because slavery prior to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade varied depending on culture and practice but slaves were still considered to be actual HUMAN BEINGS and therefore to have HUMAN NEEDS AND LIMITS (seeing slaves as not fully/properly human was an advent of the T-AST and a product of semi-modern racial categorisation, and is an anomaly on a historical scale, not the rule)
Deceptive, also fits under point 1: "a ton of fucking people", especially when frequently large structures involved entire communities, and child involvement was much less likely to be in a Victorian Workhouse way and far more likely to be "you're old enough to be your parent's apprentice so you learn the craft alongside", or like running errands for family on the worksite
Also filed under point 1. Never said everyone was a willing participant, just that were a lot of people involved. Also, surprisingly, not as common as people often think!
"The king said so" is a WHY, not a HOW. The same goes for religious reasons btw, because while that is the motivation for the project, it doesn't actually mean anyhing re: the process and techniques of building things, which is what this post is actually talking about
First off, this is only tangentially related to the original post. Secondly, it's incorrect. History DOES, in fact, record the failed megaprojects, often in bitchy letters from the people responsible for actually building the thing to the person in charge. The difference is that, frequently, the actual structure either gets rebuilt correctly so we don't see the fuckup stage and only know about it from said letters, or it's disassembled to reuse the materials, but some, such as the Bent Pyramid or the visible frame half again as high as the façade on the Pantheon, do actually remain for us to see. This is part of that whole fucking around and finding out I was talking about
This addition has been annoying me for months and recently got reblogged by a popular blog and I needed to say SOMETHING because it was pissing me off.
god bless you for replying with a correction I have wanted to correct it for so long but have not had the energy, magnificent, very good. Anyways here is my absolute favorite failed mega project which you mentioned:
Ayyyee the bent pyramid she is magnificent

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No that thing you dislike isn’t “spiritually Israeli”. You know what is spiritually Israeli? What's the core of Israeli spiritual life? Judaism. But you aren’t gonna say something is spiritually Jewish out loud to devalue it, are you?
Oh, you meant it has colonialist vibes? That it’s a fascist or right-wing power structure? That it’s the result of genocidal actions? Then why aren’t you saying it’s spiritually American or French or British? Why are you so intent on using a Jewish country (no matter how immoral its actions) to critique things you dislike? Why are you ok mocking things by lumping them in with the spiritual (ie. jewish) aspect of Israel? Please, explain to me how that actually isn’t antisemitic.
A few days ago, I got into an argument with a leftist friend about the word goyim, or gentile, which she said she was reclaiming against Ashkenazi Jews and their colonial ambitions since it was a "slur" against gentiles, and compared my irritation at using the word (which I don't have to explain the use of the word amongst antisemites to push ZOG/protocols-esque theories) to me getting angry at her, a white Latina, for making deportation jokes. This spiraled into a discussion about "Ashkenazi white supremacy" and she cited that Ashkenazi Jews have always, since the dawn of time, had a superiority complex and had a racial power dynamic over Sephardim and Mizrahim, and that threw me for a loop.
I want to quickly address a phenomenon which gets overlooked a lot in our very temporal contemporary political climate around Zionism and the incredibly dubious narrative of "Ashkenazi supremacism" and the delegitimization of Ashkenazi heritage that comes along with it: Ashkenazi Jews, especially Litvaks/Lita'iim were once perhaps the MOST ostracized and discriminated against minhag and subgroup both within and outside the B'nai Isra'il, or the Jewish community. Especially amongst Sephardim (originally from Spain, which is in fact, also in Europe) who then resided in the Ottoman Empire within the then cultural capital of Judaism, Salonica, their Polish and Ukrainian neighbors in the Pale of Settlement, and frankly across the Diaspora, the prevailing sentiment was that because of both the Haredi and Hasidic traditions practiced by such Jews and their historic opposition to the then-emerging Reform stream and the Haskalah, they were backwards and savage in comparison to the enlightened and sophisticated Sephardic communities. This can be seen in the rhetoric espoused in many Sephardic cultural organs that originated in the Ottoman Empire's Jewish cultural centers, and this sentiment persisted until very recently.
Even in places like New York, there is still an attitude of superiority taken towards many Litvaks and their descendants, separate from critique of Haredi practice as a whole.
The only reasons why this sentiment is largely forgotten is that firstly, me and said friend live in New York, and the dominant Jewish edot in New York are well, Ashkenazim. Secondly, nearly the entirety of the Sephardic community living in Salonica or what was once the Ottoman Empire was systematically deported and wiped out during the closing years of the Holocaust. This is why Salonica, or Thessaloniki, once a city that served as the center of Jewish culture the world over, now bears hardly any sign of its heritage. This is why the city that once went entirely silent on Shabbat now has not a trace of its Jewish population.
Full disclosure, I am firmly Ashkenazi, with my family roots in the historical region of Lithuania, in modern day Poland and Ukraine, so I don't want to speak too much on the experiences of Sephardim and Mizrahim, who do face legitimate discrimination within the Jewish community. There are legitimate problems here, but if you're not Jewish and especially if you're not Sephardic or Mizrahi, don't try to generalize how these communities feel and use them as a token in your antisemitic narrative. I'm merely pointing out the historical context and historic discrimination Jews who resided in Eastern Europe faced for centuries, which is conveniently ignored by those who feel compelled to construct a dubious faux-CRT narrative about Ashkenazim in the present day; I do not seek to discount the real problems these edot face within B'nai Isra'il and will alway oppose any inter-Jewish discrimination and prejudice espoused by Ashkenazim, or any other group for that matter.
However, I do not appreciate the generalization and tokenization of these communities to support a historically illiterate and deeply antisemitic narrative that gets so commonly pushed amongst the left, regardless of how masked it is in faux-intersectional and "progressive" language. Any mention of Jewish supremacy as a defining feature of Ashkenazi culture is truly ridiculous, regardless of what a few singled-out, fringe voices may say.
Also, gentile is not a slur any more than other out-group terms used by an in-group are. Do people think Black/BIPOC folks using non-Black is a slur? Never, and you'd be laughed out of the room for even suggesting such a thing. Gentile has origins going way back to Biblical times and emerged entirely divorced from any derogatory connotations; the use of the Hebrew-derived goyim in the 2010s was very much popularized by the Alt-Right as a reference to cabalistic conspiracies, as is goyslop and any other variation of the term, and although it can sometimes be derogatory, it's no more derogatory than any other out-group term has the potential to be. Thanks for listening!
For more reading and sourcing for this, here are some lovely books on the topic:
Mazower, Mark. Salonica, City of Ghosts: Christians, Muslims and Jews 1430-1950. New York: Random House, 2003.
Nair, Devin E. Jewish Salonica: Between the Ottoman Empire and Modern Greece. Stanford Studies in Jewish History and Culture. Stanford: Stanford University Press, 2016.
populism is so fucking predictable.
He described the major pro-Israel lobby as an organization “for whom the only thing more frightening than democracy being allowed to run its
I’ll put the disclaimer on this, even though it shouldn’t have to be said: this is not a defense of AIPAC, the Israeli government, lobbying, political spending, or warfare. it is an explanation of blatant antisemitic dog whistles and conspiracies. yes, there is a difference between this and informed criticism, and yes, Jews are entitled to find this alarming. and yeah, it’s also boring, and a tired, centuries’ old narrative. we recognize it.
H a h a h a what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck.
This is terrifying.
If you detach antisemitism from nazism I’m not listening to a single fucking thing you say because you are actively engaging in holocaust inversion and denial. Fucking reflect and stop stealing Jewish trauma because you refuse to see us as human
Especially including "Zionists are the new/real nazis!" And "zionazi" like tbh I do not believe any of these people don't know exactly what they're doing by now.
Once you remind yourself that Israel is a country of just 9 million people, smaller than New Jersey, you start to notice that the accusations made against it are rarely ordinary. They are almost always framed in the most extreme and exaggerated terms possible.
“Israel has killed more people than anyone else in modern history.”
“Israel is committing the worst genocide since the Holocaust.”
“Israel persecutes Christians more than any other country.”
“Israel is the least democratic country in the world.”
“Israel is the world’s greatest violator of human rights.”
“Israel is the biggest threat to world peace.”
“Israel has starved more children than anyone else in modern history.”
“Israel has murdered more journalists than anyone else in modern history.”
“Israel targets hospitals for fun.”
“Israel controls the United States.”
“Israel is a colonial project unlike any other.”
The point isn’t simply to criticize Israel. It’s to push every accusation to its absolute maximum.
By starting from the most extreme possible position, they force everyone else to argue from there. Even if you spend an hour correcting the record with facts and context, you’re no longer asking whether the original claim was true. You’re arguing over how much of it was true. Many people are left thinking, “Maybe it wasn’t that bad,” instead of recognizing that the original accusation was false or wildly exaggerated.
That’s why hyperbole is such a powerful propaganda tool. Even when a claim collapses under the slightest scrutiny, it often leaves behind a watered-down version that people continue to believe.
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Jews are .2% of the global population! .2! Point two!!! How many of these claims are also said about Jews! It's the same thing, it's the same, there's legitimate criticisms about Israel and its government, but half of that point two percent lives in Israel and most of the time the end of the argument that these """just antizionists""" are using wind up ending in "and Israel shouldn't exist anymore" and wanting Israelis dead!

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“This thing can’t possibly be an antisemitic dog whistle, it’s just a commonly used phrase!”
My dude you are so close to understanding how pervasive antisemitism is
This is a rather interesting point. Not trying to derail away from antisemetism (antizionism is NOT antisemetism, conflating all jewish people with zionists is not a good thing to do) but i do find it interesting that it claims 'from the river to the sea' is antisemetic when it is an extremely popular pro-Palestinian phrase that you see very often. I'd very much like to hear a more knowledgable person's take on this as opposed to my own.
the very phrase "conflating all jewish people with zionists is not a good thing to do" is in itself a problem. by this you are implying that zionism, ie the desire for Jews to live in their indigenous homeland of Israel, is a bad thing. the "bad zionism" you're thinking of is an extremist sect that started with Jabotinsky and today are called Kahaneists after Meir Kahane. judging a movement by its worst most evil members is not okay, all the more so when it's a group by and for marginalized people.
as for "from the river to the sea", yes obviously most people don't know the history and only mean they want Palestinian freedom. I too want Palestinian freedom. but that does not erase the antisemitic, nigh-genocidal origins of the phrase, which was a promise specifically to kill all the Jews of Israel and push their corpses into the sea.
it's fine not to know, but you have to learn to question. and to understand that a marginalized group knows what bigotry against them looks like.
"i do find it interesting that it claims...when it is an extremely popular..."
That's. That's literally. The OP. The post. The first. That's what the original. It's right there. But. The post.
Like legitimately this is the point of the original post. I wasn't going to reblog this version, but that's literally the point of the post!!!
Also, using Zionist like that is also a problem! Don't conflate all Jews with Zionism; yeah that's only around ninety percent of us! Because you don't know what it means, because you've been absorbing Jew hatred. So I hope whoever asked this goes deeper into this and really tries to learn. Palestinians deserve to be free and have rights and be safe, but dogwhistles don't help that!
I'm also surprised that it doesn't say that the Arabic version of the phrase is "...Palestine will be Arab" as opposed to free, because that's a lot more blatant for seeing the Jew hatred.
Also, yeah this was before October 7th which explains the number of notes.
It’s been astounding to watch the evolution of antisemitism in real time over these past three years. Being raised in a predominantly Jewish area in the diaspora, I never thought it’d affect me; that was a mistake on my part. It has pervaded so much of life, both online and offline. It’s disturbing how commonplace it’s become. And the fact that if people did a modicum of research and learned about the history and evolution of antisemitism, it could be lessened. Unfortunate that I don’t have faith in people to do that.
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the problem with writing fantasy is that i have to constantly stop myself from having people say "jesus fucking christ." jesus didn't exist here dammit. i need a fake swear that means the same thing i think

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i like when a piece of media says that an all-powerful character "sees humans as insects" because that really could mean a lot of things. maybe they view us as insignifigant and will squish us under their boot. maybe theyre actually studying and cataloguing us for their thesis paper. maybe theyre campaigning for human protection because we're an important part of their ecosystem. maybe they see a human and go "ew ew ewwwwww someone get the cup and get that FREAK out of my house." .
I see my mother She's at the window She's letting down her long black hair She won't let me in there