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They were us.

Like literally genetically they were US, just like. A while ago.

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Would you trust a TV caveman with a baby? Probably not

As long as homo sapiens have existed, we have had the same emotional and mental capacity as you and I do today. You nailed it. They were US. Even Neaderthals existed alongside and had offspring with Homo Sapiens for many thousands of years.

There's much evidence that cavemen would have had complex spoken language, culture (learned information passed down), symbolic interpretation, and I think they most certainly would have been able to handle holding a baby. In fact I have my suspicisions that an ancient homo sapiens mother may be a more present, attentive, and knowledgable mom than I could be today.

Do not let media trick you into believing we are the pinnacle of humanity. Unilinial evolution theory (google it quick I beg) is BUNK, GARBAGE, and the root of so much evil.

At the beginning of the next class, my teacher showed us a cave painting of a horse. And then he showed all of our horses, which he had scanned and put into the presentation.

He then pointed out all the ways that our horses looked similar to the prehistoric horse. Same features, drawn from the same angle, etc.

And then he asked us, "Isn't it cool that you draw horses the same way as someone who lived 20,000 years ago?"

Yeah. That stuck with me for a while.

Scientists are now pretty sure the scribbles were made by kids ages 3-6, more or less on their own. The adult cave artists were probably doing what any modern parent might do when they want to keep small children out of their hair for awhile: they gave the kids some drawing tools of their own and a small section of wall to work on, out of the way but still close enough to keep an eye on them, and let them have at it.

The team compared the ancient art with the developmental stages exhibited by modern children: the furiously scribbled circles and push-pull lines typical of 3-year-olds just learning to control their bodies, for example, or the wobbly, right-angled figures of slightly older kids beginning to master fine motor skills.

Both are apparent in the cave, superimposed on each other as though two or more kids were drawing at once. That’s a clue the Las Monedas marks were likely made by “siblings or a mixed-age play group within the sphere of safety around adults, but also within their own space,” says co-author Felix Riede, an Aarhus archaeologist.

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“They’re experimenting to get to know materials that are important in their world. They’re not trying to draw animals, they’re just trying to break the charcoal.” [...]

1. A lot of dudes. Just a ton of fucking people from beginning to end of the process.

2. Ancient people weren't stupid, they just figured shit out the same way we do: fuck around until you find out.

3. We're gonna plan this out and it's gonna take ten fucking years, and you will cope.

4. Sticks and string are surprisingly versatile and can be used for a variety of purposes, like moving stuff and making sure things are even and go in the spot you wanted to put them in!

Wrong and oversimplified. Just because they didn't have modern OSHA didn't mean they did not have any kind of safety regs. Rope harnesses and scaffolding are well-recorded.

Wildly oversimplified. Weekends as we understand them may not have been a thing, but there were definitely shifts and designated days off because people have families and contrary to popular belief a lot of cultures had actual paid labourers and artisans building things, and they tended to have guilds and organisations that REQUIRED time off to be given. Yes, including slaves, because slavery prior to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade varied depending on culture and practice but slaves were still considered to be actual HUMAN BEINGS and therefore to have HUMAN NEEDS AND LIMITS (seeing slaves as not fully/properly human was an advent of the T-AST and a product of semi-modern racial categorisation, and is an anomaly on a historical scale, not the rule)

Deceptive, also fits under point 1: "a ton of fucking people", especially when frequently large structures involved entire communities, and child involvement was much less likely to be in a Victorian Workhouse way and far more likely to be "you're old enough to be your parent's apprentice so you learn the craft alongside", or like running errands for family on the worksite

Also filed under point 1. Never said everyone was a willing participant, just that were a lot of people involved. Also, surprisingly, not as common as people often think!

"The king said so" is a WHY, not a HOW. The same goes for religious reasons btw, because while that is the motivation for the project, it doesn't actually mean anyhing re: the process and techniques of building things, which is what this post is actually talking about

First off, this is only tangentially related to the original post. Secondly, it's incorrect. History DOES, in fact, record the failed megaprojects, often in bitchy letters from the people responsible for actually building the thing to the person in charge. The difference is that, frequently, the actual structure either gets rebuilt correctly so we don't see the fuckup stage and only know about it from said letters, or it's disassembled to reuse the materials, but some, such as the Bent Pyramid or the visible frame half again as high as the façade on the Pantheon, do actually remain for us to see. This is part of that whole fucking around and finding out I was talking about

I want to quickly address a phenomenon which gets overlooked a lot in our very temporal contemporary political climate around Zionism and the incredibly dubious narrative of "Ashkenazi supremacism" and the delegitimization of Ashkenazi heritage that comes along with it: Ashkenazi Jews, especially Litvaks/Lita'iim were once perhaps the MOST ostracized and discriminated against minhag and subgroup both within and outside the B'nai Isra'il, or the Jewish community. Especially amongst Sephardim (originally from Spain, which is in fact, also in Europe) who then resided in the Ottoman Empire within the then cultural capital of Judaism, Salonica, their Polish and Ukrainian neighbors in the Pale of Settlement, and frankly across the Diaspora, the prevailing sentiment was that because of both the Haredi and Hasidic traditions practiced by such Jews and their historic opposition to the then-emerging Reform stream and the Haskalah, they were backwards and savage in comparison to the enlightened and sophisticated Sephardic communities. This can be seen in the rhetoric espoused in many Sephardic cultural organs that originated in the Ottoman Empire's Jewish cultural centers, and this sentiment persisted until very recently.

Even in places like New York, there is still an attitude of superiority taken towards many Litvaks and their descendants, separate from critique of Haredi practice as a whole.

The only reasons why this sentiment is largely forgotten is that firstly, me and said friend live in New York, and the dominant Jewish edot in New York are well, Ashkenazim. Secondly, nearly the entirety of the Sephardic community living in Salonica or what was once the Ottoman Empire was systematically deported and wiped out during the closing years of the Holocaust. This is why Salonica, or Thessaloniki, once a city that served as the center of Jewish culture the world over, now bears hardly any sign of its heritage. This is why the city that once went entirely silent on Shabbat now has not a trace of its Jewish population.

Full disclosure, I am firmly Ashkenazi, with my family roots in the historical region of Lithuania, in modern day Poland and Ukraine, so I don't want to speak too much on the experiences of Sephardim and Mizrahim, who do face legitimate discrimination within the Jewish community. There are legitimate problems here, but if you're not Jewish and especially if you're not Sephardic or Mizrahi, don't try to generalize how these communities feel and use them as a token in your antisemitic narrative. I'm merely pointing out the historical context and historic discrimination Jews who resided in Eastern Europe faced for centuries, which is conveniently ignored by those who feel compelled to construct a dubious faux-CRT narrative about Ashkenazim in the present day; I do not seek to discount the real problems these edot face within B'nai Isra'il and will alway oppose any inter-Jewish discrimination and prejudice espoused by Ashkenazim, or any other group for that matter.

However, I do not appreciate the generalization and tokenization of these communities to support a historically illiterate and deeply antisemitic narrative that gets so commonly pushed amongst the left, regardless of how masked it is in faux-intersectional and "progressive" language. Any mention of Jewish supremacy as a defining feature of Ashkenazi culture is truly ridiculous, regardless of what a few singled-out, fringe voices may say.

Also, gentile is not a slur any more than other out-group terms used by an in-group are. Do people think Black/BIPOC folks using non-Black is a slur? Never, and you'd be laughed out of the room for even suggesting such a thing. Gentile has origins going way back to Biblical times and emerged entirely divorced from any derogatory connotations; the use of the Hebrew-derived goyim in the 2010s was very much popularized by the Alt-Right as a reference to cabalistic conspiracies, as is goyslop and any other variation of the term, and although it can sometimes be derogatory, it's no more derogatory than any other out-group term has the potential to be. Thanks for listening!

For more reading and sourcing for this, here are some lovely books on the topic:

Mazower, Mark. Salonica, City of Ghosts: Christians, Muslims and Jews 1430-1950. New York: Random House, 2003.

“Israel has killed more people than anyone else in modern history.”

“Israel is committing the worst genocide since the Holocaust.”

“Israel persecutes Christians more than any other country.”

“Israel is the least democratic country in the world.”

“Israel is the world’s greatest violator of human rights.”

“Israel is the biggest threat to world peace.”

“Israel has starved more children than anyone else in modern history.”

“Israel has murdered more journalists than anyone else in modern history.”

“Israel targets hospitals for fun.”

“Israel controls the United States.”

“Israel is a colonial project unlike any other.”

The point isn’t simply to criticize Israel. It’s to push every accusation to its absolute maximum.

By starting from the most extreme possible position, they force everyone else to argue from there. Even if you spend an hour correcting the record with facts and context, you’re no longer asking whether the original claim was true. You’re arguing over how much of it was true. Many people are left thinking, “Maybe it wasn’t that bad,” instead of recognizing that the original accusation was false or wildly exaggerated.

That’s why hyperbole is such a powerful propaganda tool. Even when a claim collapses under the slightest scrutiny, it often leaves behind a watered-down version that people continue to believe.

as for "from the river to the sea", yes obviously most people don't know the history and only mean they want Palestinian freedom. I too want Palestinian freedom. but that does not erase the antisemitic, nigh-genocidal origins of the phrase, which was a promise specifically to kill all the Jews of Israel and push their corpses into the sea.

That's. That's literally. The OP. The post. The first. That's what the original. It's right there. But. The post.

Like legitimately this is the point of the original post. I wasn't going to reblog this version, but that's literally the point of the post!!!

Also, using Zionist like that is also a problem! Don't conflate all Jews with Zionism; yeah that's only around ninety percent of us! Because you don't know what it means, because you've been absorbing Jew hatred. So I hope whoever asked this goes deeper into this and really tries to learn. Palestinians deserve to be free and have rights and be safe, but dogwhistles don't help that!

I'm also surprised that it doesn't say that the Arabic version of the phrase is "...Palestine will be Arab" as opposed to free, because that's a lot more blatant for seeing the Jew hatred.