I'm back in the fucking building (Hazbin Hotel)

As someone who has always hated the theories about how Alastor is a pure, irredeemable evil character who is going to turn against the hotel and be the final villain, I have always had a variety of reasons why this point of view made no sense to me. However, I have recently come to understand that, beneath many of these theories that Charlie will kick out Alastor and turn on him, lies a disdain for Charlie as a character. Something that I have heard a lot of people with these theories say is that Charlie needs to be taught a lesson that some people are not capable of redemption. They see her as a foolish little girl with silly dreams about redeeming the worst of the worst because she doesn't know any better and needs to be taught a lesson about how wrong she is. These people want Alastor to be the one to finally break her naivety. To force their point of view on her and make her "mature" into someone who agrees with them that some sinners should be classified as irredeemable.

I genuinely believe that anyone who is waiting for the narrative to show that Charlie is wrong about redemption is going to be disappointed. There are a lot of flaws in Charlie's methods that she still needs to work through. She also has a naive understanding of what good and evil entail. Despite this, the narrative has consistently validated her belief in redemption. Season 1 had her prove the validity of her beliefs to heaven. Season 2 proved it to hell. It seems that Season 3 is going to have to prove it to the audience, as there are a lot of people who still doubt her in the audience.

Something that I have heard a lot of people with these theories say is that Charlie needs to be taught a lesson that some people are not capable of redemption.

This is something I come across as well, and it ties in neatly with a post I recently saw here on Tumblr stating that 'some of you have never watched The Good Place and it shows'. The message of that show, which I also truly believe will prove to be a core message in Hazbin Hotel, is that anyone can be redeemed. Exactly as Charlie says multiple times throughout the show, for example in response to Vox in 2x3 when he asks her if she thinks even he could be redeemed.

It's not that some people cannot be redeemed, it's that some people do not want to be and will not put in the effort to try.

Keeping in mind that unless angelic steel is involved, the sinners in Hazbin's Hell have eternity ahead of them. Eternity. Just take a look at Zestial: that guy's been in Hell for centuries!

Are some people seriously going to say that if a person, no matter how cruel they may have been in life, were to dedicate decades or even centuries to bettering themselves, that still wouldn't be enough to redeem themselves? Say a person killed 10 people in life. This is horrible, absolutely horrible, and yes they would deserve damnation for their crimes. But if, once in Hell, they were to genuinely try and change, dedicate themselves instead to helping others, to saving lives if possible, whatever is within their power to put good out into the world, and they make a consistent effort to be a different, better person for years, would that still not be enough for them to find redemption?

The concept of redemption in our human, mortal perspective is a tough one sometimes, I understand. In life, we don't have eternity to right our wrongs. Depending on what crimes a person commits and what hurt they cause, there comes a point where a human lifespan is not long enough to make up for the damage they've done, no matter how much one may try. You can't wash away a lifetime of hurting others by donating away every penny you have and doing genuine good in volunteer work or whatever at the end of your life. Sometimes the damage is too great to be repaired in your lifetime (in the very worst cases at least).

But in Hazbin Hotel, as in The Good Place, these human souls are not bound by time. They get eternity to try, to stumble, to fall, to get up and to try again. They get eternity to learn from their mistakes, to acknowledge the damage they've caused, to try and be better tomorrow than they were today (props if you get this reference)

Under circumstances like these, Charlie is not naïve for believing that anyone can be redeemed (even if some never will be). I'd rather say it's naïve and shortsighted to believe that people cannot be redeemed when offered eternity to try.

The ones who will never find redemption, their problem is not a matter of being incapable of change, it's that they're not willing to try (for whatever reason this may be; some might genuinely enjoy cruelty and evil, some might believe themselves incapable of change or undeserving of redemption, or a multitude of other reasons)

Charlie doesn't need to be proven wrong. Charlie is entirely correct. And her staunch belief that people are always, always capable of change if they just try is perhaps the most mature belief in the show. Her methods need work, but her belief is solid, and she does not need to be proven wrong.

He should have been awarded a medal for his efforts. For example: the best tractor driver, cook, sapper, etc. Well, so far, just a diploma.

I like the way Vox communicates with Charlie.

A meeting of the most "normal people"(I don't count Husk, he drinks) in two structures. Both had ambitions. Like two sides of the same coin. Only Vox has the experience, but Charlie doesn't.

He had given her more information than her father had in all these years. At least as far as business was concerned.

If Sam turned evil...

No, listen, obviously it would never happen, but like hypothetically, if Sam turned evil...

...The group has simply no recourse for that, I feel. Like, if Jammer, K, or Evan turned evil, someone (if not everyone) else would immediately be like "Hey, stop, this isn't you."