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Transcription of J Michael Tatum's thoughts on Eruri
I took it upon myself to write up a transcription of J Michael Tatum’s (writer for the English dub of SnK and voice actor for Erwin Smith) thoughts on yaoi Erwin and Levi’s relationship. I thought this way it might be easier for people to read, since he shares a lot of interesting headcanons and analysis about the series in general!
Source: The Attack On Titan Voice Panel Tokyo in Tulsa 2014.
Question: What are your favorite character dynamics, specifically?
J. Michael Tatum: From the show or just in general?
Q: From the show.
JMT: This is going to sound kind of self-serving, but I really like the dynamic between Levi and Erwin— [applause]. Not because I think they’re a couple; I mean I can dream too, but I don’t necessarily think that the text so-to-speak supports that, though it doesn’t say that they aren’t! But regardless if whether or not they have any romantic feelings for each other, which we can argue until the cows come home, there is definitely something— some mystery to their friendship that we as an audience are left to our own devices to infer, which I think is interesting. I love very subtle exposition, you know, that’s like, how is it that Levi was a real bad-ass and for some reason Erwin was the only guy that was able to get him to straighten up—no pun intended—and [audience laughter] I didn’t really mean to say that I think Erwin and Levi—!
I mean, honestly, even as a writer, I don’t quite know what their relationship is because it’s honestly complicated. It may be that they’re just friends. It may be that Erwin was just like, “I see a lot of myself in you, so I’m going to kick your ass because I know what you need to keep from dying at an early age by being a dumbass.” And it could just be that they have this kind of brotherly relationship that Levi himself is kind of bound and obligated to make. I mean, I think it’s pretty clear that whatever else their relationship is, at some point, one of them saved the other’s life and feels a debt to the relationship—whatever it is—for just being alive, and that drives them, constantly.
But they have this weird… like, when they actually talk to each other —and they only share the screen a handful of times in the entire series; they’re not together very often. And when they are, they’re speaking very curtly, and they’re speaking about military maneuvers like, “Oh, what do you think we should do about the She-Titan?” Or whatever. They don’t go, “Hey, remember that time? Like when we were kids? When you kicked my ass?” They never do! They never discuss their past. They never discuss it.
Again, getting back to what I said earlier about all the drama of human dynamics being compacted into this world where, you know, you don’t have time to speak your mind or talk about things that we think really and truly matter in our life, such as feelings, or, “Can we explore this? I’m confused, I want to talk this out with you.” You don’t have time for that when you’re besieged on all sides by huge giants that want to eat you. So if there IS a romantic element to their relationship —and there may be— it’s kind of sad how it can’t be realized, because they simply don’t have the emotional breadth or space in which to do it, because the first order of business will always be survival. So, I like that they leave it unstated, which leaves your imagination to run wild and go: God, I feel for them, because there’s so much they can’t—like, they can’t even have an obvious friendship because they’re moved by this path like, ‘we have to do this, we have to do this’. Their sense-of-self is very precariously balanced by what they have to do, which is just to live another day. And in their case, that their people live another day because they’re in charge of everyone else’s lives. And the burden that puts on them leaves them no time to go, “[sigh]… let’s go grab a beer and talk about getting a puppy!” [laughter]. I mean, it’s never going to happen while the titans are around so it’s making everyone’s—everyone’s—interpersonal relationships much more succinct. Tragically so, because there’s simply no time to be yourself. No time to live and survive and not get eaten. Think about that for a moment: that’s pretty Erwin.
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The official @anime_shingeki account on twitter has just released this new, updated promotional clip for "Attack on Titan" The Movie: Final Chapter THE LAST ATTACK, which is now showing in Japan and will have a worldwide release in the New Year.
I know the aspect ratio of this clip is different from the cinematic release, but that closeup of Erwin's face fading into the smoke....damn. He really was the last one Levi saw 😭
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Oof this is going to be clumsy as hell because I don't know what's the best way to rearrange this:
In the Attack Fes Ishikawa Yui-san at the end "Although Mikasa sent Eren off with 'itterasshai', what she really wanted to say was 'okaeri' I think" on being addressed with [the above], (Yui?) cried on seeing that Kamiya Hiroshi and Ono Daisuke the two of them were holding back their tears(x2)…
(It's that) Levi and Erwin too have a send-off/be sent off relationship…
So, a good bit of background first. "Itterasshai" is part of a group of set phrases that one uses when leaving and returning to the home. When going out, the person who is leaving says "ittekimasu", literally, "(I) go and come back", while the person who's remaining in the home says "itterasshai", "go and come back [safely]". The exchange on returning home is for the person who comes back to say "tadaima" for "I'm home", literally "just/right now", so more "here I am", while the person in the house says "okaeri" for "welcome home", literally "return home(honorific)"
So "itterasshai" a lot more meaningful than "see you later", it's more like "safe return", and can be said for more than just leaving the home and can be for longer journeys with the sentiment that the person be safe on their trip/forays outside of the home with the implication that they are returning (home) at the end of it, "come back safely" essentially.
So itterasshai is imbued with Mikasa's wish that Eren will return to her, and the meaning of Ishikawa's statement is essentially that "although what she did was to send Eren off on his way, what she really wanted to (be able to) do was to welcome him back". I think it's easy to imagine why Kamiya and Ono had the reaction that they did.
Final line is OP speculating that Levi and Erwin too had the same kind of a relationship.
Square brackets are my notations, normal brackets are the original.
【Attack Fes Original Script】
①Erwin / Levi / Hange
・starting from when Erwin takes over as Commander from the 12th Commander Keith
As this is from memory I apologise for the loosely translated summary!
On Levi asking a "what do we do from here on"-type kind of thing, Erwin "No change from up till now. [We] continue to resist. However, the way of doing it changes, we're going to do it in my way"
Hange "[I] approve! [I] want to catch Titans, two of them, a normal and an abnormal would be good (setting the stage for Sonny Bean?) (followed by messy high-spirited suggestions)"
Levi "Erwin, you said that day, that 'don't regret' 'nobody knows the outcome'"
Erwin "yes, [we] must not let (our comrades who have fallen in battle?) be meaningless. (approximately) I too from here on will continue to show the way [forward] I dedicated my heart to."
Levi "Understood Erwin. I trust in you*."
Hange "…don't forget about me/(my situation/requirements)?"
kind of flow is the sense of it
By 2co-san [=OP]'s memory, feeling now it's about 60% accuracy so just the mood[atmosphere] of it…!
*literally that "I('ll) trust in your judgement" line minus the judgement :)
No real comments to add to this except that once again I'm at a bit of a loss of how to translate Hange's 私のこと watashi no koto, like in "name of love" ;), I think that the koto can refer to the situation or be something like "about me", so contextually I would take it more as "hey what about all the stuff I want to get done?" but tongue-in-cheekily it can also be "hey don't forget I'm still here?" I don't have enough information to decide XD
During the second song Name of Love, it was impossible to breathe due to receiving a heavy blow to the abdomen,
In the chorus, the Midnight Sun from the crate in the visuals at the back what (is it)… illusions/apparitions…??
Oof this felt like a brain twister but this is my final answer on how I think it translates. I really don't have any more input on it unfortunately, not knowing what they're referring to.
In Name 0f l0ve Eruri's scenes from Perfect Game made an appearance (lit. came out), indeed that was "love"
No further explanation required I think :)
Hey, Eruri is scary but…
Are the people who are singing the theme song thinking that it is a huddling (close together) under an umbrella relationship…?
OR
is the thinking that it's a huddling under the umbrella relationship from the singers of the theme song...?
After looking at this back and forth, these are my conclusions XDD but the key point is that "huddling under an umbrella" implies at a romantic relationship because an umbrella or parasol shared by two people, referred to as 相合傘 aiaigasa, which ripping straight out of the wiktionary:
相合傘 has a strong romantic implication, stemming in part from a play on words. The first two characters are pronounced あい (ai), the same as the word 愛(あい) (ai, “love”), and thus the connotation is that both people under the umbrella are in love.
Yes I too have been wondering about that line for a very long time… XDD
Thank you for your ask and hope that helps! :D
(Usual disclaimers for mistranslations etc apply :)
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