Himbo Lover

Treehouse’s localization of Fire Emblem Fates is infamous already, but how much was changed or removed is often still misunderstood. So I’m compiling my long posts about it here!

Here is a link to my sources post!

Where I get translated stuff!

Here are links to posts I’ve made so far!

Before Branch of Fate Story Changes

Birthright Story Changes

Conquest Story Changes

Revelation Story Changes

Character Changes: Takumi

Character Changes: Peri

Character Changes: Niles 

Shura’s Inconsistent Age

Character Ending Changes 

And it probably doesn’t help Eshmel’s seiyuu is also what I’d argue was the start of rise of isekai and this kind of harem everyone loves him protagonist, Kirito from Sword Art Online

Alt text:

Hong Hua (VO: Jennifer Sun Bell)

A powerful mage who fights alongside you to defeat Balor. Her magical strikes are swift and precise.

Likes: Memories of happier times

Interests: None

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Other roles of Jennifer Sun Bell:

Jormungandr in Fire Emblem Heroes

Perenna in Fire Emblem Shadows

White Fox in Marvel Rivals

Caesar King in Zenless Zone Zero

Tamaki Iwato in Suzume

Well support conversations are confirmed to be there, as seen in the direct when they talk about the inn.

Now romance based S supports? No clue about those.

Funniest possible situation is if everyone except Eshmel can have paired endings, a complete reverse on what Engage did. That would be hilarious.

For Dietrich, considering he joined this thing by sheer chance who knows if he even has a wish. For Leda I would assume it would be related to her revenge even though she seems dead set on killing them herself. As for Theodora I would guess hers is related to her wish to improve the standing of her people.

You have a good point.

Dietrich just wants to fight, so maybe as he goes through the games his wish will turn out to be fighting the gods or something.

Theodora... well, who knows! She's participating to gain respect for her people since they're hated by so many, but I don't know how that will translate into a wish. At least... not without some very icky implications that she wants to enforce some political stuff on others by way of the decree of Solel.

And Leda... well we saw she's in the games just to have a chance to kill Bertrand, so if he's the last person on her list... yeah, who knows what she'd wish for. Maybe that'll be her "oh wow I've killed so many people yet I'm so empty that I don't have anything I desire despite being granted the opportunity of having anything I want" moment.

Oh yeah, I know about Primrose and how similar Leda is to her, I just wanted to talk about Leda/revenge in context of how FE has done it in history.

And then, from character to character: let's say Sothis could do this. What's stopping her from doing it any time she wants, for any reason? How could anyone trust her? Would they even be able to tell something is wrong, or could she basically puppeteer them? If the only solution is to hope the character is A Good Person, then every interaction they have is suspect.

I'm also worried that it would give Agarthan stans something legitimate to harp on Sothis for, and in doing so, justify her murder.

Well, in Corrin's case, they were a traumatized child who forgot a childhood friend because said friend was banned from ever seeing them again. So there's a logic there that needs no big/otherworldly explanation.

But like you say, with Sothis and the very nature of the event in Dagda, it speaks to so many snags and issues. Should she be involved with a massive memory wipe or rewind even when she's no longer physically alive, what's stopping her from then influencing Fodlan in the same way? There's no current logic we have that would prevent her from doing so. She could theoretically send Eshmel and Fortuna to Fodlan instead to fix things and stop Rhea from "breaking the taboo" and whatnot.

And since Sothis is just... not that well utilized or written as seen in 3H, we effectively just have to take her word for it that she's doing the right thing. Because how could she not be, she's Byleth's mind friend! Ignore the fact that we never get her properly interacting with Rhea and the small times we do, she's kind of being a bad mother, what matters is that she's the Sassy Goblin™️lodged in your brain.

There was a thread on reddit that was like "why can't FW just be an alternate universe instead of a prequel or sequel" and people said in response that it'd be lame and "invalidate 3H"... as if the very idea of being directly related to 3H as it is already wouldn't either invalidate 3H or FW as it is. The major events of FW either have to not matter as much if they never reached Fodlan especially considering it involves Dietrich (forgot to mention that in my last post, like he's literally a noble with a Hero's Relic, there's no way people are just gonna glaze over his involvement in a huge dramatic thing happening in Dagda), or certain endings of 3H have to be ignored to support whatever timeline Dagda follows.

Like you said, the game could have been completely independent from Fodlan, hell, it could have been set in an entirely new universe with its own lore! Make up a new major god in a new setting! Make up new lore related to these characters! Most of the stuff that's been revealed already is new as it is, there's actually no reason yet why it has to be part of the Fodlan verse specifically. Sometimes it reads as if they started out with something new, then pivoted back to 3H because they want it to sell considering its price tag.

People having random crests in fw probably isn't that big of a deal

I agree! (I risk possibly contradicting myself because I don't remember if I said anything about Crests and whatnot, but this is how I feel at the moment lol).

Also, hopefully the 4 leads' stories don't take a backseat when part 2/the avatar comes around, unless the game goes "they tunnel visioned to their doom" with the solution being the power of friendship trope (I'm not against that trope). Because it looks like Cai and Leda's stories can just be done in part 1, unless Balore does something to Cai's dad and Leda's target. Dietrich and Theodora look like their goals can last in part 2, killing powerful targets and (iirc) strength for her kingdom, respectively.

I myself was wondering about the protag face-offs. It makes me wonder if none of the main 4 actually win the games, but were so notable during them that they each became venerated as heroes. Because then it becomes a question of how does the fate/time travel work.

Perhaps in each of the 4's respective paths, they each win the games, and Sothis/Fortuna are so powerful that they're able to pull from multiple contradictory timelines. That still does beg the question why they all get statues post-timeskip. Unless maybe the statues aren't celebratory, but representative of those who doomed Dagda?

From what I've heard since I didn't play it nor other Warriors games besides Hyrule and FEW1, Byleth basically amounted to being an homage to DWs Lu Bu, so yeah they really didn't do anything with them nor their relationship with Shez, including the Agarthans vs Nabateans conflict. Again, it left it on cliffhangers and half-explanations, leaving people to draw their own conclusions because they didn't give the game any DLC.

Eh, I think 3 of the 4 so far are fine enough. For me it's only Dietrich literally being a retread of Jeritza's personality only now likely having more than 4 supports is so lazy.

That said, it'll ultimately depend on how they stick the landing with them all. Like, I love Leda from what I've seen so far, but I hope they don't retread too much from past revenge stories, Dimitri included. Theodora I just need her path to not be too heavy on lore and detached objectives because it runs the risk of being dull if there's not at least some emotional core behind it all. And Cai... well I just want him to succeed at the very end I guess.

I wager they just really wanted to do it regardless and were developing it soon after the bulk of Engage was finished. That said, I agree, it's a bit worrisome that they immediately went back to a recent setting.

It started with the grandmaster outfit for F!Robin having shorts, and IS took it as permission to make the female avatars look as disparate from the male ones as possible ever since, it's quite nuts.

Me after seeing how utterly smoking hot Bertrand is: Leda listen hear me out just hear me out revenge bad maybe two sides to every story and all that just hear me out listen-

The duality of mankind