The Politics of Loki: The Revolutionary vs The Reformist and the Corrupt System
In this post, I will breakdown the politics of the âLokiâ show, touching on the systemic issues of the TVA, the political ideologies and a general analysis of the narrative and its characters. Please note that this is my own personal interpretation and analysis.
âThe TVA is the problem. It's broken, it's rotten.â - Sylvie
âBurn it down, easy. Annihilating is easy. Razing things to the ground is easy. Trying to fix what's broken is hard. Hope is hard.â - Loki
âThe system is violenceâ is a common phrase when it comes to the sociological concept of structural violence. In our world, itâs most commonly used in reference to racism, classism and sexism, but also in war and policing (and many other forms of violence). Within the world of the MCU and the âLokiâ show⌠It is used to explore the morals and ethics of the TVA, He Who Remains and Sylvie & Loki.
The TVA are portrayed as a fascist organisation, and its agents are operating under a lie from their dictator â He Who Remains. The people who live and breathe the TVA and its mission are victims. They were stolen from their lives, had their memories wiped blank and were put in a system that engaged in violence under the guise of âfor the greater goodâ⌠Arguably, they were groomed. Anyone who discovered the truth or had doubts were punished â asking questions was heavily discouraged and viewed as a form of blasphemy against the Time Keepers. Hunter C-20 was an example of this corruption. The workers are fed propaganda, and are lead to believe that they are âthe good guysâ.
Even when we take a look at the material the agents saw daily within the TVA, we see rules that are there to discourage them from âchit chattingâ and âless meetings, more productivityâ (because talking creates discussion and discussion can create questions), and limiting their breaks/pie to â1 slice per weekâ and how âbartering for extra tokens is forbiddenâ. Itâs small forms of control, to keep them in line.
The âverify through deletionâ and âalways watchingâ tells us the most about how the TVA operates.
The TVA uses surveillance as a form of control, monitoring its agents, the timelines and variants to maintain power. It encourages the agents to âstay in lineâ and self-police themselves, also creating an environment in which people are less likely to question the system/the Time Keepers. There are many forms of surveillance, from literal CCTV and data to the concepts of religion.
The TVA uses both.
The Time Keepers are seen as these âall-seeingâ Gods, saviours of the multiverse and looked up to by the agents â Ravonna Renslayer is an example of this belief, and even when the truth of the Time Keepers is revealed, she still remains staunch in the mission the represented. Renslayer reminds Mobius that the Time Keepers are âalways watchingâ. Knowing you are being watched is not an inherently comfortable feeling for most people, so when Renslayer says this, it isnât a comfort, itâs a warning â a reminder to Mobius of his place in the system. The agents even believe that the Time Keepers created them! The Time Keepers are their âGodâ/âCreatorâ. Even calling the main timeline âThe Sacred Timelineâ is a religious allegory. The story told to the agents (and variants) about why the TVA was created is there to instil fear and cooperation. But also, the TVA/Time Keepers make the agents feel special, like they are saving and protecting the Sacred Timeline â they give the agents a God Complex.
The TVA treats variants as criminals. It mirrors how the real world treats prisoners/criminals (innocent or guilty). When Loki is arrested for his âcrimes against the Sacred Timelineâ, B-15 even says something that is reminiscent of what a police officer would say to a detainee: âOn behalf of the Time Variance Authority, I hereby arrest you for crimes against the Sacred Timeline. Hands up. Youâre coming with us.â When Loki questions them, B-15 tells him: âLast chance variant.â As soon as the Minutemen step through the time door, they have their weapons raised, and when Loki tries to evade, he is immediately met with violence and collared like an animal.
In Season 2, we are introduced to the fact that the TVA has literal torture devices⌠We learn in Season 1 about the Void and how itâs essentially just a giant, free-roaming, (mostly) inescapable prison that banks on a giant cloud monster called âAliothâ, that is described as a âguard-dogâ, to eat them⌠(Or that the variants will likely kill each other.)
Variants are just living their lives, unaware of the system and its influence, yet they are treated like criminals/problems that need to be dealt with â by erasure from existence.
Loki is then brought in, no one answers his questions, offers him any personable explanation⌠They simply log him, strip him (removing any visual evidence of his identity and to give him a lack of autonomy) and process him. Once he is processed, he is given a trial. He has a chance to âplead his caseâ, despite no one telling him what exactly his crime was. Judge Renslayer âhears him outâ and rules to reset him. It had nothing to do with the fact Lokiâs defence was weak or unprepared, it has everything to do with the fact that this is how they operate at the TVA. Everyone is âverified through deletionâ, the trial is set up so every variant that comes through those halls is ruled âguiltyâ. The trial is a farce, smoke and mirrors, to give the illusion to the agents that what they are doing is just and âprotecting societyâ â a mock court. The justice system within the TVA is set up to fail the variants. Itâs similar to how the automat is filled with only keylime pie. It gives the illusion of choice to the agents.
Mobius âsavesâ Loki from being reset, wanting to ârecruitâ him to track down one of his variants (which we later find out is Sylvie). Mobius interrogates Loki, his goal is to break him down and get him to a point where he agrees to help the TVA â itâs a similar fashion to police interrogations that last hours to try and get a confession out of suspects, except Mobius here is using Lokiâs file and role on the Sacred Timeline (according to the Time Keepers) to strip him down and make him more agreeable. (Since I began writing this, another blog has made a post that goes into more detail about this scene, so Iâll save my breath and encourage you to read @khapikat222âs own analysis of this scene!)
Mobius holds Lokiâs life in his hands, he can have him reset at any moment⌠Of course Loki is going to agree to help them â and, of course, use the situation to his advantage by trying to gain the upper hand against his captors⌠But thatâs another topic that Iâve discussed here and here!
âThe first and most oppressive lie ever uttered was the song of freedom. For nearly every living thing, choice breeds shame and uncertainty and regret.â - Loki
Then we have Sylvie. Sylvie is a character who is rooted in anti-establishment politics and believes everyone should have free will. Sylvie is another victim of the system. After being captured and taken by the TVA as a child, she decided then she would make it her mission to destroy the organisation that stole her life.
Sylvie isnât a hero, she isnât a villain, sheâs a revolutionary.
Sylvie grew up in apocalypses, having to raise, protect and teach herself. She grew up surrounded by death, only ever able to see the destruction of things and that shaped her own belief system. Sylvie believes that the only way to fight violence is with violence, because thatâs what sheâs had to live through and do to survive.
The TVA committed an act of violence on Sylvieâs life when they stole her from her timeline as a child. It wasnât personal. It wasnât targeted. It was systemic. And Sylvie, from her own experience, quickly understood that the only way to defeat violence is with violence.
Loki stated himself that he âdoesnât enjoy hurting peopleâ and does it âbecause he has toâ, to maintain the âillusionâ. This quote can be used as a heavy bit of foreshadowing for the plot and characters of the show. Mobius doesnât enjoy hurting people, but he does it because he has to because thatâs what the Time Keepers (He Who Remains) has demanded of him. Sylvie doesnât enjoy hurting people but does it because she has to, to survive and fight back against a system that was designed to oppress her. We know Sylvie doesnât enjoy hurting people as during Season 2 Episode 3, whilst attempting to kill Victor Timely, Sylvie says: âDo you think I want to do this? Any of this?â And then later says that she âcanât let him liveâ. In the end, Sylvie spares Victor. Itâs clearly a difficult decision for her, going against everything that she believes, but she does it. She holds back.
Loki has used violence in the past as a way to assert control (both over his own life and others around him). For example, trying to destroy Jotunheim, bringing an army to Earth and trying to subjugate its people. Loki is certainly not a âpeaceful protestâ kind of guy. However, Loki has learnt from his past that violence only seems to breed more violence, continuing the cycle. He has heard the (sanitised/biased) stories of Asgard and the wars across the Nine Realms and how the war may have been over, but the effects of it still remain. He has witnessed his own actions and the destruction it caused for a city, himself and his family. Loki was also stuck in a system on the Sacred Timeline, he understands it.
By the time Loki and Sylvie reach He Who Remains, Loki starts having doubts. Loki is willing to believe He Who Remains and factor in his reasoning for the TVAâs creation because Loki has always had to factor in everyone elseâs moves on the chessboard. Sylvie, whilst she did spend years on her plan, is more impulsive when it comes to situations. Now, that isnât to say Loki doesnât have impulses â for example, his attempt to destroy Jotunheim felt more impulsive than planned due to the fact his emotions were erratic after finding out the truth of his heritage. However, Sylvie has such a strong belief that the system must be completely destroyed, and the dictator must be removed, that she is not willing to factor in the consequences. She is headstrong, independent and doesnât trust anyone else but herself. Iâd argue that Loki, whilst claiming to be independent, is very dependant on others, especially when it comes to his sense of self and his identity.
Plus, Loki has tried to be in the role of the dictator, he had ruled Asgard for a short time in âThorâ, and his attempt to subjugate Earth under the guise of liberation during âThe Avengersâ, whereas Sylvie has never had the chance to have the power to be in that position. Loki benefitted from hierarchical rule as a Prince of Asgard with his upbringing being in a palace and the title of âGod of Mischiefâ, and he has been in a position that let him believe he was âaboveâ other beings â like mortals. Unlike Sylvie, Loki has experienced both sides of the coin with privilege and oppression. He benefited from the system, whilst also becoming a victim to it. This contributes as to why Loki can see how the system could be changed rather than simply torn down.
He Who Remains even tells Sylvie and Loki: âYou may hate the dictator, but something... far worse is gonna fill that void if you depose of him.â He frames himself and the TVA as the âlesser of two evilsâ, which is typically something youâll hear a lot when it comes to politics/governments and their leaders. This sort of rhetoric is essentially telling people not to hope or want for more, for something better. It is phrased as an ultimatum, yet, doesnât leave the decider with much choice. Once again, itâs control via fear: fear of the unknown, of something worse, of something new. He Who Remains even tries to tempt the pair into taking over the system, using power as a means of persuasion.
Upon seeing the vastness of the multiverse and the potential consequences that could arise if he or Sylvie make the âwrongâ choice, Loki is hesitant to finish the mission. He entered the TVA as a prisoner, but also an opportunist as he planned to attempt to âoverthrow the Time Keepersâ, and by the end of S1, Loki evolves and takes in the scale of it all â âit isnât about youâ, as Sylvie told him in their first meeting. Sylvie, on the other hand, remained the same and held fast to her own mission. It was about her, yes, but it was also about the billions of people whose lives had been stolen or dictated by the TVA.
Loki is a reformist and Sylvie is a revolutionary. Both share the same goal of change, but want to reach said goal by different means.
Loki would prefer to transform the existing system, and in Season 2 opts for dismantling and rebuilding the TVA, because thatâs what heâs witnessed from Asgard and Odin (or at least, thatâs how it was framed to Asgardâs people in their history). Loki knows how it feels to have been lied to, to have your whole life be a lie, so he can sympathise with the TVA agents in a way that Sylvie struggles with. Sylvie knows the agents were variants, and whilst she can understand that they are victims themselves, she struggles to get past the mental barrier of how she views them being the enemy.
Sylvie told Loki: âit would be easier to burn this place down and start from scratch.â Thatâs revolutionary thinking. This is Sylvie stating her stance on what she thinks should happen to the structure that He Who Remains built. Again later on, she also told Loki âthat sometimes it's okay to destroy something.â Sylvie didnât want to simply âreplace one nightmare with anotherâ, she wanted to do a complete overhaul rather than just swap leaders â she rejects the existing system.
However, Loki tells Sylvie: âSure. Burn it down. Easy. Annihilating is easy. Razing things to the ground is easy. Trying to fix what's broken is hard. Hope is hard.â This falls more in line with reformist ideology. Loki wants to change what already exists, something slower and more gradual with, ideally, little to no violence. Loki has tried using force and violence in the past to achieve his goal and it hasnât worked for him. He even makes a dry comment to Sylvie about her machete, the weapon that killed He Who Remains: âWell, your machete hasn't solved any problems thus far.â
Loki doesnât think violence is the answer. Sylvie does. However, both characters are eventually willing to try and understand each other and form a middle ground. Sylvie is willing to let Loki try and fix the Loom with the help of Victor Timely, and she is willing to put aside her own views for the sake of others. It isnât easy nor is it smooth or without its clashes, but she tries. However, ultimately, she still believes that the TVA is ârottenâ and âbrokenâ, and that it needs to be dismantled.
To Sylvie, Loki is compromising with the system. She met Loki when he was dressed in TVA uniform, and then after the Citadel when he finds her on her branch, he is still wearing the uniform â just no longer with the âvariantâ label on his jacket. Sylvie sees Loki as part of the problem, she sees him as a sympathiser/enabler. Loki is still playing He Who Remainsâ game, existing within the rules of the system he set up, even after Sylvie freed the timelines. Sylvie sees trying to reform the TVA as repackaging the same product and selling it as something brand new and better.
However, by the end of Season 2, Lokiâs stance and approach has shifted. At the start of the series, Loki states he believes that âfreedom is a lieâ, and that âchoice breeds uncertaintyâ, but his actions in the shows finale represents his change in perspective. It can be debated whether Loki originally even truly believed that sentiment or not, but either way, his actions regarding freedom have changed. Loki realises that trying to fix a system that was always set up to fail its victims, a system that exists under He Who Remainsâ rules and logic⌠Itâs never going to work. Thereâs no room for anything other than âright or wrongâ in the system, and that isnât true free will. So⌠Loki does what Sylvie had been telling him from the start⌠He dismantled the system by destroying the Loom.
The TVA was created to keep the âSacred Timelineâ in check, to prune branches, to prevent true choice and free will. The Loom was the last part of He Who Remainsâ structure/system that could lead to the TVA, as an entire organisation, reverting back to their old ways. Loki removed that possibility from the equation. Rogue agents who believed in the original mission may still remain (as shown in Deadpool & Wolverine), but the organisation as a whole cannot revert back so easily to their old practices because the whole reason they were pruning branches to begin with (keeping the Sacred Timeline/Temporal Loom stable) has been taken away.
Whilst the new TVA has changed their mission and now keep the branches safe, allowing people free will and choice, it is still a system that can be weaponised â like any system. However, now it has a better chance at being something better, with the dictator and his rules gone, it can now function as something closer to a true democratic society, not like the illusion He Who Remains created. The people of the TVA are the protectors of the multiverse, taking on the role that they believed the Time Keepers had, focusing on finding actually dangerous variants who threaten it all and appropriately dealing with them â instead of any old variant who created an innocent, tiny deviation unknowingly and treating them like a criminal.
Loki and Sylvie are both complex, nuanced characters that are capable of making wrong and right decisions. They are both capable of doing better and taking time to understand the other, to see both the small and big picture. Their dynamic was never going to be smooth sailing, they are both intrinsically different when it comes to power and control. Loki originally wanted to overthrow the Time Keepers and take their place, whereas Sylvie wanted to kill them and burn down their system. Loki wears his God status with pride, whilst Sylvie denounces her own. Loki accepts the hierarchy and has used it to his advantage in the past, whilst Sylvie challenges it and defies itâŚ
Sylvie: âSounds like, whatever we do, weâre playing God.â
Loki: âWe are Gods.â
In the end, the show isnât asking the audience to pick a side, to choose between reformism or revolutionism, itâs asking the audience to understand the arguments and explore the tension between the two characters â âwhyâ and âhowâ these two characters got to where they are in their respective beliefs. Itâs about change and how no-one is âtruly goodâ or âtruly badâ, but it makes us question the morality and ethics of people and the systems they are a part of. It gives the hope that we can wish for better, and not settle for a system that ultimately harms us.
âHope is hard.â â Loki






















