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Except for the thing with Beren which is a horrible and I'm not touching, what are the odds that Thingol has ever successfully said no to Luthien?
Because canonically, she's his favorite person in the whooooole world, and I think I could textually demonstrate Thingol seems to be rather fond of indulging anyone he even vaguely likes, so Luthien has probably been Spoiled™️
So like, Thingol's love language is clearly Giving People Stuff
And he also immediately caves if he likes you
"NO ONE CAN COME INTO DORIATH except if they really really really need my help"
"Go away, kinslayers! No, not forever, I'm just mad right now. You're family and I would never cut ties with you 🥺 Actually none of this is your fault, and Fingolfin's people have also been through enough I'm so sorry for 2/3 of the Noldor actually"
"This trial is over, Beleg." "Pretty please? 🥺" "Okay but only because it's you 🥺"
My point being, there's a crack version of Leithian that ends in:
Mandos: No, you may not have your boyfriend back.
Luthien, who has always had everything she wants and has never been told no in her life: If you don't give my boyfriend back I'm going to cry
Mandos: I'm not Thingol, I won't immediately give in just because you're pouting, this is ridicul--oh shit oh my god no don't cry I'm going to talk to my boss don't cry don't cry
Wait, actually. I think this is only 90% crack as opposed to 100%. BoLT has my back:
“Put away thy light words, my child, and say has this wild Elf of the shadows sought to do thee any harm?”
“Nay, father,” said she, “and I think there is not evil in his heart at all, and be thou not harsh with him, unless thou desirest to see thy daughter Tinúviel weep, for more wonder has he at my dancing than any that I have known.”
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Since @winwin17 recently brought to our attention that Tolkien wrote male elves typically do the cooking, here’s my ratings of the sons of Feanor by kitchen performance:
Maedhros: has fed everyone since he was old enough to reach the counter. Always cleans up afterward. 10/10.
Maglor: decent but whenever he accidentally curdles the cream he sighs, “thus are all fair things marred,” and starts composing lyrics about the sundering of the Noldor from Valinor. 8/10.
Celegorm: comes in, drops a skinned whole deer on the table, and leaves (Aredhel is equally guilty of this btw). Knows zero (0) vegetarian recipes. 2/10.
Caranthir: usually quite competent but once lost his temper at the twins and screamed, "if Father returned from the Halls of Mandos and saw what you'd done with the stew, he'd immolate again but on purpose this time." Hard to live that down. 6/10.
Curufin: bakes elaborate pastries even though baking is "usually reserved for women." Occupies half the cupboards with his precision instruments for measuring flour. I made art of this at some point in my life. 9/10.
Amrod/Amras: can actually prepare venison in addition to hunting deer. Proficient cooks but also fond of experimenting with new mushrooms species they find in the forest. Once made everyone hallucinate yellow gnomes for a week. 7.5/10.
Alright, folks, here it is - the Maglor poem I promised! It isn't perfect, but I think it's good enough.
So here I give to you:
Maglor's 'The Raven '
Trigger warnings and notes first!
This poem is heavily inspired by the poem 'The Raven' by Edgar Allan Poe. It borrows form and meter, and even certain phrasing from that poem, which is about a man driven mad by his lost love and the Raven that comes to visit him and taunts him with lack of information concerning the afterlife, replying to all his questions with one word: "Nevermore."
I did include a raven in my version of this poem, although mine doesn't center as much on the raven as Poe's does. You'll also see more than one occurrence of that maddening "Nevermore," but again, it is not as central to my poem. Oh, and mine is longer than 'The Raven.'
As a quick disclaimer, this won't be as perfect a poem as 'The Raven,' as I am just an amateur poet. I am not a fan of Poe's works in general, but that doesn't mean he didn't produce some brilliant writing.
Now, trigger warnings: 'The Raven,' which this takes inspiration from, is quite dark in nature. This poem about Maglor is also quite dark, and heavily features themes of hopelessness and suicide. (I went with the version of the lore where Maglor kills himself in the end.) The style of this poem is very hypnotic almost, and can really hammer itself into your head. So if you're not in a good place right now, this might not be the poem for you. Also, I want to say that I do NOT believe suicide is the answer - even for people who have done very evil deeds!! It's the route Maglor takes, but this poem isn't meant to beautify or romanticize it, or portray it as the correct way to deal with things.
So with all that out of the way, here's the poem.
Maglor's 'The Raven'
Once upon an evening dreary,
Far he wandered, weak and weary,
Wandered singing, low and mournful,
With his harp, upon the shore.
Worn his raiment was, and yearning
Was his song that o'er the churning
Of the dark Sea came returning,
As so oft' it had before;
For here walked one of the Eldar,
Mighty singer of the lore -
Maglor, son of Fëanor.
In the restless wind now blowing,
Raven-dark, his hair was flowing,
Yet he seemed naught but a shadow
Of himself in days before.
Here he wandered, lost, forsaken,
For a fell Oath he had taken,
When he, with his kin, unshaken,
Swore the Oath of Fëanor,
In that fair and far-off country
Far removed on sundered shore,
Blesséd land of Valinor.
Broken now, though once undaunted,
Roamed the Elf, by darkness haunted,
Ever vainly seeking solace,
Peace of conscience to restore.
All his brothers long outliving,
Yet the Oath, still unforgiving,
Ever all his steps had driven
Toward the gems for which he swore,
Swore at any cost to capture,
Though they lay in Morgoth's hoard,
On a dark and distant shore.
Ah, the years of tears unnumbered,
Even when the dread Oath slumbered
In a sense of peace deceiving
For a time, if nothing more.
Yet in passion, wrath, and raging,
Brothers death-bound, though unaging,
Once again their fate engaging,
Each in turn his blood outpoured,
Till remained yet one still living,
Wand'ring lone upon the shore,
Maglor, son of Fëanor.
Falters now his song and singing -
Nigh at hand a Raven winging
Out of yonder misty darkness
Comes to light upon the shore.
Now the Elf, with desperate pleading,
Cries, "Ah, Raven! Apt our meeting!
Canst thou bring me what I'm needing,
Just a word from Valinor?
Or perhaps take message thither
Yonder to that shining shore?"
But the bird spoke: "Nevermore."
Though astonished, Maglor ponders,
Elven gaze flits ever yonder,
Seeking, searching, now by habit,
For the light of Valinor.
But the mist his sight is veiling,
As the Western sun is paling,
And no ship for him is sailing
To the home he once adored,
To that fair and far-off country,
Whence he'd dwelt in days before.
Would he see it nevermore?
Now the Elf cries, "Raven, tell me,
If compassion can compel thee,
Am I now forever severed
From all loves known heretofore?
Far-off now are those once near me,
For all Elvenkind now fears me!
Shall their faces never cheer me,
Never comfort anymore?"
But the Raven gave no answer
Different from the one before,
Just that one word: "Nevermore."
Lifting up his voice, lamenting,
In the sea-spray unrelenting,
Cries the Elf now to the Raven,
"Shall this curse last evermore?
Lost I've roamed, myself abhorring,
Never ceasing my imploring;
Can the Valar now restore me,
Twice-damned son of Fëanor?"
But the bird remained in silence,
Silence only, nothing more,
Chilling Maglor to the core.
Now upon his knees he's falling,
All his evil deeds recalling,
Dropping tears of bitter anguish
In the sand upon the shore.
"Such a high price I am paying -
All the bloodshed and the slaying
For those gems, yet not allaying
All my guilt, though grieving sore!
Tell me, Raven, is there hope here
For a son of Fëanor?"
Sighed the Raven, "Nevermore."
To the cliffs his steps now steering,
Heart and hands still burning, searing,
From the pain when he, unworthy,
Took the gem of Fëanor.
Though into the Sea he'd cast it,
This soul torture still outlasted
Pain of body, and surpassed it,
Aching, bleeding more and more,
Bleeding in his pain and pining
While his grief and tears outpoured,
Raven watching, like before.
Now aside his harp he's casting -
"Shall the Darkness Everlasting
Be my fate and not release me,
But enchain me yet the more?"
But his cry is met by thunder,
Tides of grief that pull him under,
As his heart breaks all asunder,
Like the dark waves on the shore,
Like the Sea that far below him
Rages restlessly and roars,
Mocking Maglor more and more.
Thus, his pleading unavailing,
With a wild and woeful wailing,
To the tempest cries, tormented,
"Curse the Oath of Fëanor!"
And his cry still distant ringing,
Maglor of the mighty singing
To the Sea himself now flinging,
Here his voice to raise no more,
'Neath the waves he falls in silence,
He whose song is nevermore,
Maglor, son of Fëanor.
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Well, that's it. I'm not sure I'm convinced Maglor couldn't have been pardoned or something, but I think if nothing else, his own guilt would have haunted him as long as he stayed in Middle Earth. Thus why the Raven implies there's no hope for the sons of Fëanor. And I left it ambiguous as to whether the Valar could restore him; you'll notice the Raven responds in silence to this question. The Raven doesn't know, I don't know, maybe no one knows. Perhaps only Eru Illuvatar would have that authority.
All you true fans of the legendarium will hopefully discover all the little gems throughout this poem that only a true fan would recognize! 😉 (Let me know if you do!!)
There's so much more I could've done!! (You should see my papers covered in sets of rhyming words and phrases - and so many went unused!) But the poem is long enough as it is, and I didn't want it to drag on needlessly.
I'll try to upload this to AO3 as well, which will hopefully have better formatting options than my phone seems to have for this app. 😄 And I plan to post the link here when I do. Anyway, hope you Tolkien-heads enjoy! 😜
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Since in canon hobbits are good at hinding and finding things, and their home is generally considered a paradise to other races for its peace and prosperity, I think it would be a fun little thing if for some reason Maglor ended up just being hidden in the Shire and accepted there despite being Unfortunately Tall and allowed to heal
Like maybe, when the Shire was being settled a group of Hobbits continued westward just to scope out how safe their land would be, and happen upon the shores enjoying the sound of distant singing. They set up camp and unfortunately didn't realize the tide was coming in until it was too late and are all scrambling and crying out for help as one of their party gets washed away to sea.
Maglor, who was nearby but didn't notice these tiny sneaks until the screaming started, rushes up and in a panic and sees what he thinks are a group of children (with pointed ears, he can't see their large feet under the water and sand, and thinks they're Elven) alone and Drowning and thinks "not again" and dives in to save them
Which he does, but he's had 4 thousand years of malnutrition, lack of care for his body and mind, and has his wounded hand that is black and scarred, which he had to use to pull these young ones to shore. Once everyone is saved he collapses to the ground, exhausted and unconscious.
The Hobbits, of course, can't just let their savior stay on the beach like this where he could also drown or be swept off to sea, and they MUST thank him for the life debt, so they carry him to their pony cart and head back to the Shire where they can give him a proper thank you
Maglor is out cold for weeks though, long enough to be brought back to the Shire and situated in one of the guest rooms in the newly built Great Smial of the Took Clan. They clean him, bandage and heal his wounds, put him in some hastily made Tall Folk clothes made out of bedsheets, and wait for him to wake.
When he does, he's in a panic and then confused, for he's never seen hobbits before, and under the fear and dread he's a little amused. All throughout the First and Second ages he's managed to avoid others and has never been kidnapped, yet here he is, at the mercy of folk that look like children.
Some things get lost in translation between Hobbitish, Westeron, and Sindarin, and Maglor thinks that he's now a prisoner to these small people, and the Hobbits think that they are going to care for him and have him be a guest of theirs for as long as he likes. Maglor, who hasnt had great mental health for the past 2 ages, agrees to be their prisoner, for honestly, he believes he deserves it.
So he heals, and once he heals (minus the blackened hand which gets medicated and wrapped and secured under a leather glove which reminds him of his eldest brother and he grieves) they put him to work. Or well, they allow him to help in their gardens, to sing songs of the sun, of joy and family and all things Hobbit. They let him help in the kitchen, where he shares recipes long since lost to the sands of time, and he helps them build a forge and how to do basic metal working, for even if his craft is one of voice and song, he is still his father's son and a Prince of the Noldor- he knows how to use a forge.
And time moves on. They build him his own smial, one that suits his height, and Maglor heals, both in mind and in body, and he goes from not wanting to escape his captors because he deserves enslavement to finding a second family amongst these folk. He gets adopted into the Took Clan, and the Hobbits all affectionately call him "Old Maggie Took" or "Songbird" or if his singing is particularly a little to loud a little too early in the morning "that damned Rooster"
He helped protect the Hobbits, weaving Songs of illusion around their home, fighting Goblins and Orcs off with Bandobras Took, making daggers and leather gear for Belladonna Took as she travels the world, and trying his best to fight off the wolves during the Fell Winter. Not as many Hobbits die to fang and claw that winter, but they did to cold and starvation and sickness.
After Belladonna and her husband died that winter, her young son Bilbo often spent time with him (mostly to escape the well wishers and their looks of pity) and so Maglor taught him things to keep his mind from loss. Taught him Quenya, and Sindarin, all about the Noldor, about Elves and Men of old, what little he knew of Dwarves from Maedhros and Caranthir, and when Bilbo asks in a quite voice, how it feels to be the only one of his family members left
He, and the whole of the Shire really, also play a very fun game of Keep Away with Gandalf whenever he visits, and while he knows Something Is Up with the Shire, he never found out about Maglor (even though he has heard about Maggie Took, and all her apparent namesakes)
While Maglor wasn't there to see Bilbo off on his own adventure he was able to make sure that when he came home it was to a home at all, even if some silverware did go missing. And when he sensed something fowl lingering in Bagend after his return, Maglor just brushed it off as something tainted from a dragon horde (later he weeps for how wrong he was and all the lives lost that he could have prevented if he investigated more)
And when Bilbo goes off to Rivendell, old and grey, all those years later guided by his dwarves, he has a silent, nervous, elven companion with him.
And its not the first or last time Elrond was grateful for the nature of Hobbits, but he wept tears of joy as he hugged his father nonetheless
Crack take on this: Hobbits are so good at finding that everything that other people lose or throw away winds up there sooner or later.
Blue wizards? Check.
Silmaril? Yup, sitting in that one mathom house.
Palantir? Got a couple of ‘em in the garden out back, they look pretty on their little stands.
Hobbits are resistant to the wiles of evil magic by dint of constant, low-grade exposure. Their picturesque little idyll of a Shire is MIddle-Earth’s trash heap. Gandalf is not charmed by their rustique but morbidly fascinated by how they survive... that. The odds of Maggie Took being a hobbit housewife or a fearsome relic of the last god-war are about 1 in 2. Gandalf does not ask questions anymore.
Listen the hobbits just having the Blue Wizards is so funny to me like imagine the fury Gandalf would have if he found out??
"What are you two doing here??? I thought you went East??!"
"Well, we did, then we found these delightful little people and went back west with them"
"So you've been here for 4 thousand years??? Why didn't you say anything??? We could have used your help!"
"Well, we thought we were helping? Keeping this little pocket of paradise safe. You won't believe the amount of things that pop up here, have you seen their mathom museum??? They needed us and its not like you ever asked to speak with us either. We lived with the Brandybucks, its not like we were hiding."
"They needed you?? What on Arda could the peaceful folk of the Shire need with Two of Estë's Maiar for???"
They show him the two palinter that were thought to be lost the northern sea, a fallen star that suspiciously shines with the light of the Two Trees, a helm that has a dragon figure down the middle, a sword as black as night that makes the very air around it feel cursed, and a few Dwarven Rings Of Power
"Is that it! Have these good people been hiding anything else of value that has been lost that I should know about??"
Maglor just sheepishly waves his burnt hand and Gandalf just
Angry Gamers (capitol G) will look at a new trailer, invent a way cooler and more epic version of it, and then think that cooler and more epic version is Bad, somehow
Man imagine a GTA where you play as a trans woman sex worker forced into increasingly dangerous situations, surviving and slowly thriving through crimes and heists of escalating stakes, slowly overcoming and eventually overthrowing those who wronged you in both the justice system and the criminal underworld
Maybe game studios should have one of these Gamers on their team to torture. The angrier this Gamer gets the further the rest of the team pushes. If this Gamer is violent with rage by the end of a brainstorming session it's considered successful.
thank you for the tags @ecofutural + @ladysterndust <333
my latest wip, though I should be working on other things, is a Helcaraxe horror/cannibalism fic for tolkien horror week, because why would I work on my longfic when I can instead write for something that is months away! here is a little of that!
It is easy enough to decline out of righteousness; to mourn the corpse and think not of its meat in your belly; think not of the swift way it slides down your throat, nor the way it calms that singeing thunder, the kind that has no rest, nor mediation—just goes and goes and goes until you feel your heart begin to patter and slow. It is easy; and then it is not. For who can say they would turn their cheek when they smell meat on the fire, burning flesh that turns from the scent of pyre to the that of supper. Not when you hunger, not when you are insatiable. Never. It is easy in the beginning to look away, and then your belly sends you crawling towards the cooked meat that you will say is not your friend, it has no name, it has no history, it is not flesh and skin and bone of anything. It is food.
So, they ate. Galadriel ate. Turgon ate. Fingon ate. Fingolfin, though he lasted longer than the others, ate, devoured, stuffed his belly like he used to as a wild, royal child.
no pressure tags: @thescrapwitch @drowninginmytbr @mnimeresponding @hobbitwrangler @balrogballs + anyone who sees this!
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Feanaro is cleaning Telufinwë’s injuries after he almost died at the burning of the ships in Losgar. Outside, Pityafinwë braves the windy night to guard Telvo’s tent.
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Art for the story “If we’re strong enough to let it in, we’re strong enough to let it go” by @dialux for the Tolkien Reverse Summer Bang 2021! (@tolkienrsb)
For more information about the story just wait a little bit until September 6th! I will post the work here as soon as the Ao3 collection opens!
it's such bs that the whole guilt-ridden stoic self-sacrificing martyr thing doesn't work outside of fiction. repressing all your emotions and neglecting your physical wellbeing should make you god's most tragically beautiful morally unassailable little soldier of righteousness but all it does is give you bad skin and gastrointestinal problems
like what do you MEAN the number 1 sexiest character trait of all time is just kind of offputting and bad for you in real life. next you'll tell me smoking has consequences other than looking like a mysterious badass