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wtf 😭 (its something blitz said in reference to loona while the standees were being shown off in the pride merch video) maybe im overthinking idk but i think thats madddd weird of him to say that.. idk if it will work but heres a video link in case you havent watched it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBeWjzNPNaw

What a weird and random thing to say to one’s own grown daughter even as a joke.

I can’t see JoJo making an appearance. The only reason why Jojo exists in the first place was to mock Dollcreep. JayJay on the other hand, I can see her making a cameo at best. I wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t appear at all. Ideally, the main focus in said shorts should be on Zill and the squad. Seeing Cameron would be nice.

I can see Zoophobia becoming its own separate universe but we have to wait and see. If Vivziepop does make Zoophobia in the same universe as Hazbin and Helluva, I fear it would make things more convoluted than it needs to be. Both Hellaverse shows already have its’ own plot holes. I think it’s in Vivziepop’s favor to not add more to the growing list.

Because they genuinely seem to be thinking that naivety = stupidity. Or all naivety = a five year old’s innocence.

Naive people have the brain capacity to understand “Wait maybe I shouldn’t invite this guy, who has been nothing but antagonistic towards my hotel and went as far as calling me a dictator, to my hotel to interview me, out of the hopes that I’ll reveal my friends’ redemption and gain them on my side without having any evidence to show it.”

More importantly, naive people do not invite their friends abuser’s enablers into their comfort zone and continue to keep them there when said friend told them not to. And then break their boundaries constantly to prove a point to the said enablers.

Heck, I can’t even say this is how a naive Disney Channel animated series/movie protagonist like Mabel, Star, Rapunzel or Luz would act, because even they would have had enough braincells to not fall for obvious traps like these. They are characters that are almost HALF Charlie’s age or have been kept out of the outside world their entire lives, but I cannot see them doing half of the shit Charlie did in this episode.

There are so many examples I can give, but a couple examples that stand out to me are these;

1). She literally STOLE fanart of human Alastor- literally copy and pasted it into the show- didn’t even bother changing anything about it.

2). There are so many works of fanfiction depicting Blitz bringing plants home for Stolas, and what do you know… in the season 3 teaser, Blitz brings home a plant for Stolas!

3). Dare I mention the fact that fans wanted Stolas to be together so badly that they wrote fanfiction about them being together, so Viv changed the entire course of the show!

I’m not upset that she listens to her fans, but it pisses me off that she rips off their ideas and passes them off as her own.

No idea 🤷. I have my own personal theory but frankly, I don’t think we are ever going to get an official answer from the woman herself. It does suck that Vivziepop has a known pattern to steal from both fans, employees, and other third party individuals because the ideas she does come up on her own are pretty creative and cool.

It’s interesting because Blake Roman claims that the team is adamant about avoiding fan related content such as theories and plot ideas so they don’t get easily influenced. Do you mind providing a link to the human Alastor fanart? I feel like Blitzø bringing plants to Stolas could be a coincidence, that has happened before in other shows. As for Stolas and Blitzø’s relationship, I feel like it was going to be canon from the beginning. It’s more or less the execution or the content itself that is the issue.

But that all happened in his second appearance, and more importantly, the narrative doesn't seem to think those things are red flags that he's a moron for not calling out. Just quirks Bee has, and that it's fine because she means well.

I just think it's just kind of... worth side eyeing. Calling a black man a himbo when no one, not in the show or even in the fandom, has acted like he's a himbo. He's observant enough on Loona's awkward attempt to socialize to decide to invite her to a hellhound party, and to defend Verosika from a stalker trying to get up on stage. I definitely wouldn't call him stupid, even if that's wrapped up into a word that also calls him hot.

On a related note, her saying that reminds me of when Ames (an artist at Spindlehorse who drew the Stolas family photos in Sinsmas,) was like, "Yeah, I'd totally wear a shirt where a penguin says "*slurs!!!!!!*. Why not?" The lack of self awareness that pretty much most of the (predominantly white) Spindlehorse staff have is unmatched at this point.

I can see where the Spindlehorse artist is coming from but overall I disagree with the term as you mentioned Anon, Vortex can be observant and fast on his toes. I’ve seen the fandom praise Vortex for being chill and welcoming, but that’s it. For anyone wondering, Samantha Ames (Spindlehorse artist and animator) did in fact say that about the slur shirt. Do whatever you want with that information and obviously don’t harass her.

1) the reason why official accounts portray Makima as cute and endearing is because she’s meant to be DECEPTIVE. To anime fans they’re meant to read her as a potential love interest for Denji, despite it being increasingly obvious that she’s a predator

2) this weird push to make Valentino the “hot dumb one” has been going on for years and people are sick of it. That godforsaken playbill that took a year to drop had him plastered all over and calling him the hottest thing ever. Constant merch being sold that sexualizes him (though this is the least offensive one). The fact that a remix of poison has a sexy Valentino voice for no reason other than to arouse his fans. I fucking hate Valentino. Most of the community hates Valentino. Most people don’t even consider him sexy! I’ve seen people who hate characters like Loona or Alastor but call them hot. I’ve never seen that for Valentino.

3) I feel like Vivziepop just does not grasp how severe his crime is. He’s not just a rapist, he’s a SERIAL RAPIST AND A SEX TRAFFICKER. HE OWNS ANGEL DUST AS A SEX SLAVE. I DONT THINK ITS CUTE WHEN HE DRAWS DUMB PICTURES I JUST WANT HIM TO DIE

I watched a bit of Chainsaw Man on Crunchyroll’s YouTube channel for free when they were advertising the Reze movie. Obviously, it’s gone since it was only temporary but from what I saw of Makima, the cute and endearing demeanor she puts on: it’s purposefully the only side that Denji sees so it’s easier to manipulate, control, and groom him.

My favourite is definitely some people being like "Abel had no right to get guitar as memento 'cus he wasn't mourning enough/was jerk to Lute" Seriously what??? A month after the death of his asshole dad who had openly said that he doesn't like him and they expect Abel to declare revenge/cry his eyes out?

Another is people misrepresenting Charlie's "I believe anyone can be redeemed" thinking she meant "everyone will be redeemed". Like yeah she really messed up (pride really got the better of her) and deserves Angel's and Vaggie's and Husk’s anger/disappointment but damn don't be mad about the only good thing she did

I'd like to hear your explanation about it because it feels like they're using these shows as a way to downplay racism like "oh but these two shows has a lot of racist jokes! does that mean they should be cancelled too??"

It’s 100% a way to downplay racism along with absolving both the voice actors and Gooseworx. When it comes to comparing the adult cartoon shows and said livestream, context is important. I don’t watch Family Guy but for South Park in particular, it’s commentary about racism. It’s funny because in “With Apologies to Jesse Jackson” it basically summarizes the whole situation with Michael and Ashley.

Definitely Hazbin Hotel. I just find the premise, characters, music, and some of the humor better, enjoyable, and more interesting compared to Helluva Boss.

It is sad that Gooseworx’s passion for the show slowly deteriorated overtime. But I don’t think it was purely the loud, toxic side of the fandom itself that sucked the joy out of her. I do believe it was a mixture of things that caused Gooseworx to become burnt out.

Such as the massive and fast popularity of the Amazing Digital Circus, high expectations regarding the show resulting in people putting Gooseworx on a high pedestal, personal issues Gooseworx is going through, and Gooseworx’s constant interaction with fans.

I’m sure the toxic side of the fandom had their part to play but recently it’s gotten so easy to blame them for everything that happened to Gooseworx.