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completed weaving of the penelope skyphos from chiusi:
the header is tablet-woven linen, with the linen weft for the band used as the warp for the rest of the piece on a warp-weighted loom, which you can see in the photos below (there is also a previous post with more process photos here). the reverse is a negative mirror image of the front, since I wove this as double-weave pickup rather than tapestry:
additional details below the cut:
the bottom and side borders of the finished piece are tablet-woven with a mixture of linen and mercerized cotton. the sides are a classic meander motif, while the bottom border includes the "X" square from the skyphos itself. the bottom border was woven directly onto the piece using the remainder of the warp beneath penelope's feet (tablet draft for anyone interested—I designed it to be twist-neutral and everything). the side borders are sewn on because I didn't set up the side borders when I started the project, but ellen harlizius-klück previously executed a stunning version here that has the side borders woven in, as well as a really helpful video on this technique.
I was originally planning to leave part of the black warp threads unwoven to serve as penelope's warp, the way I did a few years ago with the amasis painter vase:
but I couldn't figure out how to execute it well in this version, especially since I was doing double-weave and not tapestry. perhaps next time! overall, this was a complicated and fun project as a first warp-weighted loom piece. I learned a lot of important lessons—chief among them being to actually calculate warp lengths instead of eyeballing them and to increase the loom weights on the warps for better tension. unfortunately, I also learned I want to build a large warp-weighted loom (the one I have now was made by jennifer marcus at fiber paintings studio and it is lovely, but I would like to weave larger pieces.)
the original pot also features telemachus standing over a grieving penelope (I had room only for his spear), perhaps a reference to the scene in book 1 when he reprimands his mother and orders her back upstairs:
Odysseus was not the only one
who did not come back home again from Troy.
Many were lost. Go in and do your work.
Stick to the loom and distaff. Tell your slaves
to do their chores as well. It is for men
to talk, especially me. I am the master.
οὐ γὰρ Ὀδυσσεὺς οἶος ἀπώλεσε νόστιμον ἦμαρ
ἐν Τροίῃ, πολλοὶ δὲ καὶ ἄλλοι φῶτες ὄλοντο.
ἀλλ᾽ εἰς οἶκον ἰοῦσα τὰ σ᾽ αὐτῆς ἔργα κόμιζε,
ἱστόν τ᾽ ἠλακάτην τε, καὶ ἀμφιπόλοισι κέλευε
ἔργον ἐποίχεσθαι: μῦθος δ᾽ ἄνδρεσσι μελήσει
πᾶσι, μάλιστα δ᾽ ἐμοί: τοῦ γὰρ κράτος ἔστ᾽ ἐνὶ οἴκῳ.
Od. 1.354–359. Emily Wilson translation.
my plan is to eventually create a larger version of this piece that includes telemachus and the meta aspect of unwoven warp threads. it would also be interesting to figure out if I can weave a different image on the back of the cloth, since the reverse of the pot itself depicts eurycleia recognizing odysseus as she washes his feet.
Ahem! GET YOUR FILM NERD ASSES OUT OF THE ODYSSEY TAG!!! IT IS MEANT FOR LITERATURE NERDS LIKE MYSELF, THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH FRANKENSTEIN, I DONT WANT TOM HOLLAND ON MY DASH, anyways have a nice day with y'all's ass movie
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discourse in this fandom so exhausting. yes, greek myth is important to greek culture, no that does not mean everything must be interpreted solely through that lens all the time. participating in the tradition of retelling these stories and reimagining them in different contexts is not somehow tainting the original myths. enjoying the research and academic discussion aspect of the classics community and/or gearing more towards the fanart/fanfic part of it are both fine, you are allowed to be as serious/not serious about it as you want. you are also allowed to not like some of the stuff that your mutuals/mutuals-in-law are posting about but im tired of the vagueposting. sometimes not even vagueposting sometimes outright callouts. if you come to fandom to pick a fight i will happily internet slapfight with you all day if it means you will stop posting about people that are just trying to chillax in their communities.
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People! Give Odysseus, Penelope, Diomedes, Athena, Helen, Clytemnestra, Cassandra, Helenus, Antenor, Sinon, and Palamedes unibrows since they’re seen as either or both cunning/smart plsplsplspls
However that is arguably not true. There isn't any mention to my knowledge that unibrows were even desirable yet alone symbol of intelligence apart from some tik tok videos.
We do hear on some characters having unibrows in later sources but not the specific ones.
I think people get confused when sources speak on women "fill in their brows" with soot and all but that seems to be mostly filling the gaps within that said brow to fill it up and give it shape. Not necessarily the empty space between the two brows
We know they were not considered ugly. Since they do not seem to be held against anyone when mentioned but being sign of intelligence sounds more like tiktok info to me. I do not remember anyone mentioning it in ancient text and art doesn't give us evidence that unibrows were even the Epitome of beauty so yeah...
The fact that there are so many people in the Epic Cycle fandom who are racist and have issues with characters being depicted with dark skin baffles me.
Blocking spree here I come, y'all bitches are disgusting.