I still think Altina is way too overdramatic here... but I guess given what Reans been through and his self-sacrifice-tendencys, its hard not to worry about him. Its not like I am a stranger to the "don't you dare hurt my boy!" - Feeling.
ANYWAY... our time with what little of Class7 we were provided with is sadly over. We return now to the ASO. Without Agnes... and Elaine instead. But the story is going to be interesting at least.
This is by far not the first time Agnes is out of commission for a while and the ASO is doing thing without her. However the circumstances this time are a bit more complicated. Most of the time Agnes wasn't available on free will do to school duties and such, while this time, she was basically "forced" to leave. (We know that it was convenient for her to be forced to leave, but Van and the others don't know that yet.) It was also never during a big out-of-town mission that she was absent. I think Jack is a bit overselling her by saying that she was basically the one doing all the work in previous missions, but she clearly had a big part in it most of the time. Which is still not saying they can not do without her, but it probably feels a bit odd to do something so big without her support, especially since she is our primary healer and spellcaster. And all that aside, there is also the fact that the danger-level of this mission is very high and Agnes will likely be anxious not knowing if everyone was alright. ALSO she is supposed to be revealed as the Präsidents daughter officially all of a sudden, on her very own birthday no less, which is a situation where she would have likely had the emotional support of the ASO. AND you may also have to add Vans situation to all the reasons why Agnes being gone isn't exactly ideal. While Agnes clearly showed no sign of any problems in working with Van as well as being physically and emotionally close to him, I think he is still a bit troubled by the fact that he rejected her and the question how she is dealing with it and what it will mean for their relationship. Finishing this mission in Ankorville side by side would likely have given him some peace of mind. While now, she is out of reach so he can only hope that she is doing alright and that their relationship from before her confession is still stable.
Outch. That was a low blow.
But lets talk about this for a moment. In theory, it would be only a low blow if it was done intentionally with the knowledge of what happened on Vans last night's stroll through Edith. Which begs the question: Does René know? And if so... how? How much does he know? I mean he is very perceptive, and I am sure he knew about Agnes feelings for Vans. Plus, we do not know how long he has been working with Agnes on her plan, so he might have guessed through certain words or body language that she did in fact confess to Van or was planning to at least.
This situation has 3 options:
René somehow knows about the rejection and intentionally used those words to hurt Van, knowing fully well, no matter what his feelings for Agnes are, he does love her in some form and hurting her hurt him and now pointing out that if he hadn't rejected her, he had a valid reason to refuse to let René take her was meant to be pure punishment for Van. It seems unlikely as someone who clearly supports Van and Elaine that he would feel like its better to hurt Van even further for rejecting Agnes, since he should have been supportive of that choice. But I feel like this is such an odd thing to say without intending it to mean something. Why does "She is my employee" doing nothing but "she is my girlfriend" would do the trick here? I mean at the end of the day, the President ordered René to bring Agnes back home; there is no way Van dating Agnes should be reason enough to not listen to the President's order.(You know... people on the internet have been thinking that René may know the future... uh... no.... past... uh... you know past loops and stuff, somehow and has been partially guiding Van to certain points for certain reasons via his CID-Missions. Which would make you wonder if that particular sentence from him is meant to tell Van that if he would have not rejected Agnes thinks (and I do not just mean this very moment) would have turned out differently. But why would René support Van and Elaine if he knew Van dating Agnes would have better results for the overall scheme of things?
The second option would be René guesses that Agnes confessed do to his perceptiveness, also likely already knowing what to come for her so assuming she would at least confess before she leaves this world. And this sentence was meant to gauge out what Vans answer to the confession was. Because had he said "Yes, I love you too" he would have had a personal reason to stop René from taking Agnes away, if he isn't saying anything tho and reacts how he does, he clearly rejected her and thats the only thing René wanted to know. Which still leaves the question open why the answer would be of interest to him, aside from what this would mean for Elaine.
The last option is that he said that without any thought behind it and meant nothing by it, but to somewhat politely deal with Vans veto, by explaining him personal ties matter more than the job connection Agnes has with him. But once again, this seems to be too deliberately said to be just randomly chosen word that are jus by pure coincidence hit where it hurts. I mean this man is clearly a traitor but obviously in a very different way then Richard, Arios or Crow were. There is something behind what he is doing that is in the end likely very well intentioned. So there is almost no way in hell he didn't say that on full as purpose to either hurt Van or give him a hint for what to do after the soft reset.
Moving on... not quite yet tho...
ALSO Renés words, causing Vans reaction, causes the others to somewhat understand whats going on. Making it even more likely that René deliberately said that for some reason.
I feel like, despite the way she played all of them like a fiddle, while planning her soft reset, I think she felt awful about it all. The lies and the deception and the fact that it meant leaving the ASO behind on such a crucial time. What she did was to save everyone, but she likely felt like she actually left them hanging. Van was so proud of her. Calling her his "lovely assistant", making her gain the title "assistant number one" not since she was the first to become his assistant, but because she is the most important of them all, and yet here she is, leaving her job behind for another important mission. No wonder she ends up asking Van to fire her for this.
I know I said this before but I have to say it again: THIS IS BULLSHIT! The game constantly makes it look like replacing Agnes with Elaine would even things out in the ASO but it does in fact NOT do that at all. Elaine provided physical strength but that is not what we are lacking when Agnes is gone. On the contrary, as Agnes does not provide physical strength, her not being in the team doesn't change the physical strength of the team at all. What we do need, when Agnes isn't there, is a healer and a spellcaster and Elaine provides non of that. I play with Wand this time so I am good, but when I played Kai with the fanpatch I fought fair and square and not having a strong healer was a freaking nightmare. Non of the healing abilities the other have are as good Agnes was and that shortly before the final was a huge ass issue. Having another offensive fighter does change nothing about the fact that our team is now weaker because we lack a healer, not a fighter.
I mean I get why they made sure Elaine and Agnes are different and all that, I just don't understand while the game likes to pretend giving us Elaine after Agnes is gone would even things out, since she doesn't provide what we have lost at all. She replaces a poster-Girl with a former poster-girl (she is not on the cover for this game after all) and thats it.
Does that mean you will not interrupt me while I approach a grieving Marielle in a destroyed Creil this time? ^^'
Yeah thats... kinda fair ^^'
I mean, we are so used to most of Ouroboros being a big bunch of softies that bark but don't bite that when someone like Harwood or him comes along you are totally in shock XD
So... since we established that Simeon is on par with McBurn when it comes to powers and Ulrica can boos their powers with her magic words even more... how cooked are we if McBurn return in the next game and we have to face all 3 of them in the final dungeon with a way smaller Team at hand? ^^'
You know at this point, when these two finally battle it out, it will be a battle of two friends testing their might instead of whatever makes all of us cower in fear of that fight ^^'
(Seriously tho... I have those two in my Grim Garten Team and its SCARY how OP they are.)
As a non-believer, I always wondered how Believers deal with situations like that. I mean, how long can "its gods will" really make you accept a cruel destiny and a harsh world? Kevin as someone who literally works for the church and thus by extension for the goddess, must have it especially rough. When you give it your all to please your goddess, and then she comes around saying: "Hey, kill that old lady that everyone loves!" it must feel like a punch in the gut by a person you trusted would never hurt you.
Am I the only one who things how that situation from the first game ended is kind of unsatisfying? Neither of those 3 got their happy ending with each other. I mean it guess Falcom just cements in stone here that the Calvard Arc isn't as tropy and predictanle as Cold Steel was but... how can that be okay? Why even bring this story up if it ends the way it did?
I am glad I did this mission this time, even tho I have still no idea in hell what going on ^^' The medallion can only be used by Agnes and its VERY powerful as it gives her like 50CP per round or something like that. This i likely almost as effective as giving Rean both Master Quartz with the CP gain PLUS the Gladiator Belt and Gladiator Headband. HOWEVER it makes no fucking sense giving us this thing now because Agnes will in fact not join our team ever again in this story.
That old bastard knows something again but refuses to say it, as per usual. He is so damn useless. What did you even survive for? To stand around, all knowing without telling anyone anything?
ALSO! I wonder if them pointing out the differences between the Ancorville in the Book and the one in real live actually has a meaning. I mean if this book plays in Ankorville, and whoever wrote it knew the people there well enough to give certain real-life people roles in it, why change the river to a slope or the hospital to a graveyard? If the autor wanted to add a graveyard, they could have easily enough just added ut to some of the outskirts. After all, Himmel Cemetery in Heimdall isn't directly in the city either, so people would simply have assumed that the autor needed a graveyard and was inspired by how it was done in the Empire or something like this. HOWEVER... what if this is actually from a different Loop? What if this book was written by someone who knows the previous loops or at least one of them and in that very loop for some reason the river has dried out and it naturally left a slope? And what if in that loop instead of a Hospital there way a Graveyard there for some reason? However the busaccient still happened in both timelines? I don't know... it just seems odd to send us to talk to all these people telling us all this stuff for nothing.
Honestly? My bed is on Agnes mother or someone related to her writing that book. We know Dominique knows more about Sophie's fate, clearly, as they were friends and all as children, so maybe she heard about thet previous loop with the slope instead of the river from her and wrote that book with that in mind and then send it with that Medallion that was meant for our Agnes - however that would incline that one of the previous loops went far enough for Sophie to be able to meet Agnes? O.o Uh... you know what? This is just too confusing for me ^^'