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The very last one is not in the game either but implies she would be uncomfortably close at some point. It would blend into dialogue box becoming fully white nicely. But notice that on the last one that we do see in the game her hair stops floating underwater!

I don't know where did they go to but I really dig the change from just drowning to some sort of your familiar videogame horror thing? She isn't just suicidal, she got a glimpse of the Player (that is an extra-dimensional Eldrich being from characters' standpoint) and how Kris was a conduct for it, just like her mother:

2) Many vapes contain diacetyl, which, when inhaled causes popcorn lung, or scarring of the lung

3) Ultrafine particles, when being inhaled, can be lodged in the trachea (not good!)

4) Ultrafine particles can also constrict the arteries in the lungs potentially causing A HEART ATTACK

thanks torrarina for the outfit reference below the cut B)

There's a light inside your soul

That's still shining in the cold

With the truth

-Have a good day 🌟

Hello hello!!! Finishing the Chapter 5 for good took some time because I was doing it with friends over a stream but we've literally JUST finished with it!

Some of my Chapter 5 thoughts:

1) I find it interesting that whereas the Flowerners have same accessories, same hobbies and same attacks as Undertale's fallen human children they are clearly not JUST them! At least because three of them are adults, one is a teenager and one is a mouse heheh. But I wonder if Asgore did meet THE six humans in his life in Deltarune universe and simply told the stories about these encounters to his flowers! So that's why the Flowerners imitate the same vibes but are not literally the same people!

2) But whereas the six colored flowers are based off the six human Undertale SOULs, Flowery seems to be out of place? Who he is based off of? @justafewmomentsofyourtime (one of the friends in the stream HELLO HELLO) suggested the theory that Flowery is based on a human that is biologically related to Kris which Asgore knew who maybe passed away and the Dreemurs adopted HIS orphaned kid/sibling/nibling/whatever?

I feel like if that was the case the narration would've pointed a focus towards it somehow so as far as Occam's Razor is concerned having no irl inspiration he simply imitated average bishie from the mangas in Flower King..... but I accept the Kris' relative headcanon now. :>

^^^ also I like how he did the Toriel's magic eyes thing but with Determination instead of the Red trait!

3) The only other Flowerner that has the Lightner face sprite besides Flowery is Blue, everyone else only has their colored accessory symbols thing! But I think it might be because he is technically two creatures?

So far it seems to me like maybe at some point Asgore locked the blue flower while a butterfly was near it and didn't notice so Blue is literally the blue flower and a butterfly? I can swear to you I didn't hallucinate it but at some point he referenced himself as 'we' (the plural, not the royal)? So that's interesting!

4) In general I LOVED the way this Chapter blurred the line between Lightners and Darkners! Like, the beetles and the mosquitoes? They are just literal insects! The floaty leaves? They are similar to Flowerners! This is so interesting!

5) I am happy to see how experimental, varied and creative Deltarune has gotten with the gameplay mechanics! You just know it will be extremely healthy and good for the Deltarune fangames creators because we now have dead evidence that breaking the average "RPG" formula and doing whatever with the gameplay is authentic!

6) Something about the way Suselle got delivered felt strange? Like for some reason Susie is written as someone that actually likes Kris way more but is completely unaware of this, or other times the game insists that Kriselle is the one with the perfect chemistry? Why Toby is teasing one thing with the narration but delivers another thing with the factual events? I've got a feeling that if these bits and clues are setting up some subversion later it could be that Susie is obsessed with the idea of relationship with Noelle because the Prophesy, THE very thing that gave her an important role for the first time also said 'Love will find its way to the girl'! Like maybe she is obsessed with the one good thing the fate itself has in store for her?

7) I think the whole exchange between Susie and Orange is allusion to Susie being half-human or having lived amongst humans for a while same as how Kris is a human living amongst Monsters :>

Theory confirmed? xD

8) I REALLY wanted to know what happens if a Ghost that possesses an object, like a doll for example, goes to the Dark World because would not the doll they're possessing be a Darkner then? I am SO happy that the question got answered!!!

9) I think Ralsei is a trans girl now? It just works! The point she makes about role of the 'prince' being imposed on her by the Prophesy is a very valid argument to question it, Flowery (an expert who must have queer radar due to being the gayest twink ever) addresses Ralsei as a 'princess' at the moment where their hostility is lowered, during the battle with Pink (who is herself allegory and... well, JUST trans woman) it is Ralsei who says "don't you think your body has a say too?" when she refuses to accept self and when Orange addresses how Ralsei kept babying her as just a cute little girl it was said how Ralsei was clearly projecting? Correct the latter one if I misremember but other three stay fdshfhdsfds I know what she is......

10) Deltarune really IS about how your hopes and dreams (haaaa get it?!) are a good thing, actually, and it includes loving your special interests. The Knight is very blatantly a negative presence in the narration. It is hostile. It is bad presence. And the way it first attempted killing Tenna and now cut Flowery down, on top of summoning the Titan? Knight is someone that destroys the dreams, fantasies and imagination!

I don't believe Deltarune is about how focusing on your fantasies and dreams is a bad thing and you should "grow up" by focusing on the "real" things or else it all ends in tragedy. The Knight is the bad presence! The nuance is that whereas Ralsei has her reasons to be afraid and try to keep Darkners 'in line' it doesn't mean you should stop dreaming altogether! And seeing even Ralsei herself went like 'if someone can subvert the fate it is you, Kris' was just so cathartic... I needed to see that!

11) I do not know how Weird Route can get ANY better than in this Chapter. Like, I won't be surprised if it is actually never picked up again because this is where it peaked. How can you get better writing than this? How can you get better EMOTIONAL IMPACT than this??

I really enjoyed both how much of a good presence Susie has been for Kris after they woke up from the long sleeping in and seeing Noelle entering her "enlightened" psychosis... She was straight up "ascending".

Honestly, considering how literal gameplay elements are part of the lore and worldbuilding of the UTDR setting I am even willing to ditch the implication that Noelle and Kris simply did a couple suicide and take the cool VHS-esque 'Side B' screen at a face value. That a sci-fi element played out and they literally went out of bounds, like in a videogame! Noelle saw something Eldrich overcoming Kris ever since she still heard "our" voice back in Chapter 2 and she wanted to get a touch of that freedom that she got a glimpse of. She is very Chara-coded in this moment doing the whole 'since when YOU were the one in control?' no longer needing us, but also......

heh, to think of it, fanon considering Spamton her weird uncle aged like wine, didn't it? The way she goes into psychosis pursuing the freedom beyond her restrain as a videogame character is very similar with how he tries to free himself from his status as a Darkner. We've got LAYERS. We've got self-awareness within self-awareness.

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