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People at pro Palestine protests: WE ARE AGAINST GENOCIDE
Also people at pro Palestine protests: literally supporting a genocidal rapist terrorist organisation
Sooooo it’s great and all that you are against fake genocides but how about trying to be against a real attempt to carry out a genocide because that’s exactly what October 7th was.
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Lmao imagine thinking that boycotting a singer in a singing contest is groundbreaking activism.
A lot of you are gonna be shocked to hear this but Israel is an example of the land back movement all of you are so obsessed with. You all preach about it all day but the moment you see indigenous people gaining back control of their ancestral land you don’t like what you see. So keep on screaming land back but know that you are not taken seriously because land back already happened in Israel. You’re just too antisemitic to see it.
Might expand on this later with a bit more of the history about the land but had to get this out after seeing one too many land back fake activists for today.
Guys… you know a colony needs to have a home country, right??? Oof this must be a lil awkward for all of you who have been calling israel a colony and Israelis colonisers… sorry about that. I just try to be accurate with the words I use, I know that’s not very popular. Clearly it’s more trendy to ignore definitions. Like how you’ve been calling what’s happening in Gaza a genocide. You know you could just look up definitions of things before making yourself and the point you’re trying to make sound stupid by using words incorrectly. Idk just a suggestion 🤷🏻♀️
Had someone respond to this saying that there are 30,000 (according to Hamas) people who have died in Gaza and so what do you call that if not a genocide? And that just proved exactly what I was saying in this post. Of course death of innocent people is tragic. That’s not the point though. The point is that by definition, genocide is not about numbers. To describe the war on Hamas as a genocide is to belittle actual genocides and that is not ok. Death is a horrible consequence of war but there is a reason the definition of genocide is so specific. If you want to comment on something the least you should be doing is using the correct words otherwise there is no point having these conversations because they will get you nowhere. And also it just makes you should stupid and uninformed.
Guys… you know a colony needs to have a home country, right??? Oof this must be a lil awkward for all of you who have been calling israel a colony and Israelis colonisers… sorry about that. I just try to be accurate with the words I use, I know that’s not very popular. Clearly it’s more trendy to ignore definitions. Like how you’ve been calling what’s happening in Gaza a genocide. You know you could just look up definitions of things before making yourself and the point you’re trying to make sound stupid by using words incorrectly. Idk just a suggestion 🤷🏻♀️
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This just breaks my heart.
Well, I don’t know about you, but I’m standing here as a proud Jew who is so incredibly proud of the resilience and strength of her fellow Israelis following the barbaric Hamas massacre on the 7th of October and every horrible day since.
Jonathan Glazer is not a hero. That’s a fucking awful thing to say. I have many things to say about this so I’ll list them below. First though I will say that the only person who ‘highjacked the holocaust and Jewishness’ was Jonathan himself in his disgraceful speech. He sold his people for money and acceptance from people he should not be trying to please and that is so wrong and pathetic.
1. Regardless of what he actually meant when he said ‘we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the holocaust being highjacked…’ that was incredibly poor phrasing and the fact that so many Jews had the initial reaction of thinking he had meant he refuted he Jewishness is enough to show that he was simply trying to be provocative and did not care who he was hurting in the process. Clearly, he was hurting his own community, or shall I say, the community he so desperately wants to distance himself from. So desperately in fact that he had to state it in front of the Many people who watch the Oscars. Anyway, when you have spent time writing a speech, especially about such a delicate subject, you better be careful with how you chose to express yourself. I mean that should be the bare fucking minimum.
2. In his speech, by blaming the events unfolding in this tragic war where both sides have suffered so much loss solely on the occupation, he did what so many have been doing since the 7th which is victim blame. Not only is it historically incorrect that this conflict is a result the occupation (rather, occupation is something that comes as a result of conflicts not what cause them- to clarify- areas of the West Bank are occupied not Gaza) but it is also disgusting to justify the massacre carried out by Hamas which is what led to this war.
3. It’s so telling when someone gains support from many people outside their community while being called out by their own community who feels betrayed by them. Specifically when it comes to Jews who decide to identify themselves as a ‘good Jew’ to supposedly please non Jews and create an illusion of assimilation when we all know that if the nazis or Hamas or any other Jew hater were pointing a gun at him they would not stop to ask if he was ‘a good Jew’. If this happened in any other oppressed minority, and by ‘this’, I mean one person speaking against the communities values and interests and actively promoting hate against that minority, they would not be praised. Because why would they. They would be called out. By their community and people outside of it. So once again ‘I’m not antisemitic I’m just anti Zionist’ yeah I’m gonna need you to shut the fuck up. The double standards when it comes to Jews is horrendous.
4. Jonathan Glazer is not a hero. He is a coward and a traitor to the Jewish community worldwide. He won an Oscar for a movie about the holocaust and failed to mention the Jewish victims who died in the holocaust and specifically in Auschwitz. Not one mention. In his entire speech. And all because it is suddenly trendy to completely dehumanise Jews whether alive or dead to the point where a jew, who should know better, is doing it too. That is not heroic. It is disgusting and dangerous. It’s been so heartbreaking to see holocaust survivors speak about how disappointed and hurt they were by his speech. If that doesn’t bother you then I suggest you start doing some major self reflection. If you are speaking over these holocaust survivors you are a disgusting human being.
5. Instead of opening up much needed, especially in the current climate, dialogue about the holocaust, he made his movie and the conversation about it about the current israel-Hamas war. By doing this, he completely diminished the scale and horror of the holocaust, that no, cannot be compared to other atrocities, no matter how tragic they are. The holocaust is one of a kind because antisemitism is one of a kind. (I’ll attach a clear explanation of this from rootsmetals at the end of the post). By universalising the holocaust, a form of holocaust distortion, he betrayed Jews that have been fighting since the holocaust for their stories to be heard and remembered.
6. By diverting the attention away from the holocaust, he essentially gave permission to non Jews who have been relentlessly attacking Israel and Jews in general, using the holocaust , to continue doing so with the assurance that they are backed by a Jew. We call people like him a self hating Jew but I digress.
7. This leads me to my next point which is this, by linking his Jewishness to Israel in the sense that he must answer for Israel’s actions, he legitimised any attack of Jews in the diaspora in the name of support for Palestine and the fight against Israel. Because if every jew mush condemn israel or else they are a ‘bad Jew’ then why not just attack us all right? I mean ‘globalise the intifada’ and whatnot.
8. HE DID NOT MENTION THE HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS SLAUGHTERED BY HAMAS ON OCTOBER 7TH NOR THOSE HELD HOSTAGE IN GAZA!!!!!!!!!
There’s honestly so much more to say and I might add more later but I’ll end with this:
Jonathan knew he was speaking in front of a massive audience. He was obligated to speak of the victims of the holocaust. He didn’t. He could have used the speech to speak out against the rise in antisemitism we are seeing all over the world. He didn’t. He should have used he speech to speak about the holocaust survivors who survived a genoside only to be slaughtered by Hamas. He didn’t.
I saw a comment someone made about this speech which I think sums it up well: “In Jonathan Glazer's "Zone of Interest," you don't see one Jew. Those are the best Jews, according to Glazer: the faceless victims screaming in the distance. Ironically, he's the villain: picking up awards from the bodies of those anonymous dead Jews while ignoring the living ones getting slaughtered in the Gaza Envelope by genocidal murderers.”
I’ll leave you with this quote and hope it makes at least one person question their response to Jonathan and his speech.
The explanation mentioned above about the uniqueness of the holocaust and why what Jonathan did is incredibly disturbing-
Please, please get this out there. Whatever your feelings and opinions at the moment, this is important and the more people this reaches, in many cases people who have been posting about it, the more likely it will be to avoid further damage.
Ok guys. Guys. Let's get one things straight. If you want to remain adamant that you don't support Hamas (as most of you are doing), then you cannot immediately fall for whatever information Hamas releases. That counts as supporting them. The ministry of health in Gaza is, you guessed it, Hamas. Which is horrific and tragic on so many levels, especially for Palestinian civilians. That does mean that whatever information they release that is not confirmed or checked by other sources, cannot be taken as fact.
The reason I am emphasising this now is obviously the horrific attack on the hospital. SO many people were too quick to believe the statement from Hamas claiming it was an attack from Israel. Sadly, all news outlets also ran with it. That fatal mistake, and I say fatal very intentionally, has lead to a mass increase in antisemitic attacks. And that is an increase on top of the increase at the start of this war. It has also had the horrible consequence of the cancelation of a meeting, I am specifically referring to the meeting with Egypt, that was set up to arrange further humanitarian aid to Gaza.
But this outrage wasn't actually about the Palestinian civilians was it?
I have not seen even one person outraged by the attack since it was confirmed it was a misfire from the Islamic jihad. Not one. Except for the imbeciles who are still claiming it was an Israeli rocket. At this point, if you are still arguing that, you have just proved that nothing you say can be taken seriously because you just refuse to look at evidence. And the evidence is out there.
Also I am writing this just before leaving for uni because I am just so angry and needed to get this out there so I haven't had time to link the sources, but if people want the sources and evidence (if you are still refusing to believe it) then pls ask for it and I will provide it. Will also probably post it later anyway when I have a second. I mean it is also out there and easy to access, but whatever, I don't mind doing it.
So I’ve finally put my finger on what my biggest issue has been with people posting about the war, even those who haven’t at any point posted outright hate or harmful information. My issue is with the people, who sadly are the VAST majority, who didn’t post anything when so many Israeli lives were lost and brutalised and are now posting in support of Palestinians. My issue is with the people who are now posting their concern and sympathy for the Palestinian civilians. The issue is not that they are concerned about the lives of the innocent Palestinian civilians. The issue is that they weren’t concerned about the innocent Israelis. They never posted anything about the unimaginable number of Israelis kidnapped and murdered and raped and mutilated and burned. If you are posting #freepalestine why aren’t you posting #freeisraelichildren or #bringthemhome? THAT is the problem and why we don’t believe you when you say you care about human rights because you clearly don’t care about ALL human rights.
I encourage and urge everyone who stayed silent on the attacks on Saturday and that now feel that they ‘simply can’t stay silent on issues of human rights’ to do some serious self reflection on why it is that only now that Israel is responding they feel this way.
Why do you only feel that way for the Palestinians?
Why didn’t/don’t you feel that way for the Israelis?
Where was that urge to advocate for human rights when atrocities were being committed right in front of your eyes last week?
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One correction: It's not GAP (what can you do with automatic translation), it's PIJ, which stands for Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a terrorist organization in Gaza, much smaller than Hamas, but also considered much more extremist.
Three points to take into account:
Even if you believe there's no humane sentiment among Israelis, Israel striking a hospital would be such a PR nightmare, that it really doesn't have any interest to do it.
The number of people killed being reported is unlike anything you've heard from any Israeli airstrike, and there's a reason for it. Hamas knows that hospitals are "protected," that Israel wouldn't strike there, so where do you think Hamas hides its headquarters and its ammunition storage? So once a PIJ rocket launched at Israel, ended up accidentally falling inside the Gaza strip, there's a good chance it hit the munition stored by Hamas in the hospital, causing a much bigger explosion than a few rockets can create on their own, and accounting for the number of dead.
In the past, when Israel did make a mistake and accidentally hit a large number of civilians, it did take responsibility for it. It took Israel quite a while (two hours) to respond to the claims that it was an Israeli strike precisely because IT TAKES TIME to make sure that there hadn't been any accidental strikes at the hospital. It doesn't take time to lie and throw the blame at someone else.
I prefer focusing on what is happening inside Israel, because those are voices that are barely shared online, but I know that Hamas didn't wait to actually find out what happened before blaming Israel, and that hatred for Israel is already been spread on and offline, so... I'm putting this out there.
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THIS IS SO IMPORTANT- THE HOSPITAL HIT WAS NOT AN ATTACK FROM ISRAEL IT WAS AN ATTACK LAUNCHED TOWARDS ISRAEL WHICH ACCIDENTALLY LANDED IN GAZA
I BETTER NOT SEE ANYONE FALLING FOR THE HAMAS PROPAGANDA AND SAYING ISRAEL DID THIS BECAUSE IT ABSOLUTELY DID NOT.
It is one thing to criticise Israel (the government) for things it has actually done but it is a completely other thing to do it for things it hasn't. DO NOT DO THAT. DO NOT FALL FOR THE MISINFORMATION.
These are from the person who I said earlier posts extremely informative content that is not just propaganda which is the case with some of these accounts. as seen here, at first she didn't make any claims because she was waiting for confirmation. and now we have the confirmation.
So please, be more like her when receiving this information and wait for it to be checked and confirmed. because to immediately assume it was Israel is just doing what Hamas wants you to do.
again if you want her account name to stay updated and read the history you can message me.
One correction: It's not GAP (what can you do with automatic translation), it's PIJ, which stands for Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a terrorist organization in Gaza, much smaller than Hamas, but also considered much more extremist.
Three points to take into account:
Even if you believe there's no humane sentiment among Israelis, Israel striking a hospital would be such a PR nightmare, that it really doesn't have any interest to do it.
The number of people killed being reported is unlike anything you've heard from any Israeli airstrike, and there's a reason for it. Hamas knows that hospitals are "protected," that Israel wouldn't strike there, so where do you think Hamas hides its headquarters and its ammunition storage? So once a PIJ rocket launched at Israel, ended up accidentally falling inside the Gaza strip, there's a good chance it hit the munition stored by Hamas in the hospital, causing a much bigger explosion than a few rockets can create on their own, and accounting for the number of dead.
In the past, when Israel did make a mistake and accidentally hit a large number of civilians, it did take responsibility for it. It took Israel quite a while (two hours) to respond to the claims that it was an Israeli strike precisely because IT TAKES TIME to make sure that there hadn't been any accidental strikes at the hospital. It doesn't take time to lie and throw the blame at someone else.
I prefer focusing on what is happening inside Israel, because those are voices that are barely shared online, but I know that Hamas didn't wait to actually find out what happened before blaming Israel, and that hatred for Israel is already been spread on and offline, so... I'm putting this out there.
(for all of my updates and ask replies regarding Israel, click here)
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT- THE HOSPITAL HIT WAS NOT AN ATTACK FROM ISRAEL IT WAS AN ATTACK LAUNCHED TOWARDS ISRAEL WHICH ACCIDENTALLY LANDED IN GAZA
I BETTER NOT SEE ANYONE FALLING FOR THE HAMAS PROPAGANDA AND SAYING ISRAEL DID THIS BECAUSE IT ABSOLUTELY DID NOT.
It is one thing to criticise Israel (the government) for things it has actually done but it is a completely other thing to do it for things it hasn't. DO NOT DO THAT. DO NOT FALL FOR THE MISINFORMATION.
Keeping this in mind-
Since it seems like that’s just not satisfying to most people and they still insist on getting the historical context here it is-
And again, just to emphasise- I am posting this as an educational resource and not to claim Palestinians have no right to any land at all. My opinion is in the disclaimer above it just seems like people do want to see the history which I do understand. So here it is.
Again, the only way to get any kind of peace/ solution is if Hamas is no longer ruling over and oppressing the Palestinians.
And again as with my last post if you want more information I can send you the name of this account.
(Edit- some of these have been cut so you just need to open the pictures)
Since everyone seems to be obsessed with it, here is some of the ‘context’
The account name I scribbled over is an excellent source for the context (since everyone seems obsessed with it) especially by providing the history surrounding it. I didn’t want to put the name on this post because I don’t want her getting more hate than she has already been getting but if you are genuinely interested in educating yourself you can dm me and I’ll give it to you.
And the first thing that needs to be done for this to ever be possible is to stop Hamas. To free Palestine from Hamas. Only then can any attempt be made to find solutions.
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I’ve seen people go here so just don’t.
Daily update post:
Yesterday, over 100 funerals were held in the small community of kibbutz Be'eri. Just one community. Hamas rockets were also fired yesterday at the kibbutz. We can't even bury our dead in peace.
At least 133 of the murdered were not Jewish. Yoseph Haddad, an Israeli Muslim Arab, gives his perspective:
This following pic is so on point for way too many people on Tumblr:
For the record, "It's wrong, but..." doesn't count as speaking out against the cold-blooded murder of Jews in their homes.
I'm writing about certain aspects less, but Israeli society has been FULL of beautiful gestures and acts of kindness. One example is a mother who had lost her only son to Hamas terrorists a few years ago, and who opened a free "supermarket" for Israelis running out of food and water, especially from among the evacuees. Another is a Bedouin family, who uploaded a video inviting anyone of the Jews who had been turned homeless to come and stay with them. These gestures from among the Israeli Arabs, Bedouins and Druze are the most beautiful ones to me. They're proof that we want and we CAN live here together, peacefully. Sadly, at least one such gesture was "punished." An Arab shop owner decided to donate 30 bicycles to Jewish kids from the south who had lost their homes. In retaliation, his shop was broken into, robbed, and then set on fire. What moves me the most is that even after that, he said he doesn't regret his decision, and will continue to contribute to Israeli society.
I want to say something about the warning that was given to Palestinians to evacuate the northern part of Gaza.
If Israel had started bombing that area with the intention of destroying Hamas facilities there, but without giving any warning, it would have killed a lot of civilians, and the reaction of the world would have been to decry Israeli actions. When Israel is giving them warning to move out, so that they're not killed in the bombings (and when they CAN return to their land once the fighting is done), Israel is still denounced, and I've seen people calling this by all sorts of horrendous terms (that don't actually apply). If Israel is being portrayed as evil whether we give a warning or not, what that means is that people are just not okay with Israel acting against Hamas in any capacity.
Except Israel doesn't actually have a choice. We tried to have one! That's what the border fence was for. We invested billions of shekels in building it. Money that could have gone to school, to hospitals, to rehabilitation programs, to all sorts of purposes that could have made Israeli society better, and save Israeli lives outside of the context of this conflict. Every Israeli patient whose life could have been saved if out medical system was better, for example, is one of the "invisible victims" of the conflict IMO. We spent so much money on the fence to stop Hamas, so that we wouldn't have to go into Gaza and fight to eliminate that organization. Such fighting would have ended in a loss of life for Israelis and for Gazans, so instead we built that fence. It was technologically the most advanced it could be. It still didn't stop Hamas. They built terror tunnels that brought them to the fence without being spotted on the surface, they had bombs that it seems they planted at the border during their "protests" near the fence, they had suicide drones that took out all of the electronic surveillance along the fence, leaving Israel "blind" as the infiltration of thousands of terrorists into its territory began, and they had intel on where the security forces are, to take them out first and leave the civilians vulnerable to rape, mutilation, kidnappings and murder.
In other words, there is no fence, there is no barrier that can stop Hamas. And without that, it's only a matter of time before carnage like this WILL happen again.
I am scared. For the families of the hostages, the thought of the fighting, where Israeli or Hamas fire might kill there loved ones, must be particularly difficult. Innocents will die on both sides when the ground action will start. That's always terrible, but for a country still counting and trying to identify its dead, that's a particularly gruesome truth. That we're sending some of our 18 year olds to die in order to keep the babies safe. Knowing that every one of these 18 year olds is somebody's baby. Every day, every hour that passes allows Hamas to dig in, to prepare and to lay traps for our soldiers. And yet the ground action has not started yet, because we want to give the Palestinians in the northern part of Gaza a chance to flee.
You can dislike the coming loss of life. We all do. I am shrinking with internal pain just thinking about it. But please stop painting the Israeli military reaction as if it's just a senseless revenge driven by blood lust. It's not. At least understand our perspective. To us, it's a fight for our lives. It's a fight for our lives that, no matter what, we will pay for with the lives of some of our loved ones.
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