#FREESHKRELI ~No Assumptions Beyond This Point~

“he raised the price to fund for finding a better medication for the treatment” is a weak argument. for example, chemotherapy is a terrible thing for cancer patients to go through, but right now it’s one of the best options we have for treating cancer. it’s better than just, ykno, dying early from cancer, so I’m glad that treatment exists until there’s a better option

there’s something not right about him raising the price of daraprim since AIDS affects a lot of LGBT people. I’m not saying he’s homophobic but his actions still effected a lot LGBT people

There appears to be a misunderstanding; Daraprim, the drug Martin Shkreli hiked the price for, is a treatment for toxoplasmosis, not AIDS. Now people who have AIDS are particularly vulnerable to toxoplasmosis due to their weakened immune system. I believe this misconception kind of went like a telephone game:

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and AIDS patients are particularly susceptible to it.

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and people with it are sometimes AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a parasitic disease which infects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a disease which affects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS.

See how the message changes?

Now with your cancer analogy, you raise a good point. Sometimes, people have to undergo dangerous treatment to help treat their illnesses when they don’t have better options available. In the case of cancer, chemo, while risky, is the best option for a lot of people since they don’t have a safer, more efficient, and more effective alternative. Yet there’s a major difference between cancer and toxoplasmosis.

It’s estimated that 14,738,719 people had some form of cancer in the United States during 2014. That is a lot. Now a lot of people have toxoplasmosis as well, yet very few people are affected by it since most people have an immune system strong enough to fight it off. It’s considered a rare disease, meaning less than 1 in 1500 Americans have the illness. Cancer harms a lot more people than toxoplasmosis, which is why there’s a lot of active research going on to find a cure. Toxoplasmosis, on the other hand, doesn’t have nearly as much research going into better forms of treatment. In fact, Martin Shkreli and his company are the only people to my knowledge trying to find a better treatment. They have to get the money for research and development since as far as I know, others aren’t attempting to make a better drug 

And people who need Daraprim are still able to get it, sometimes even for free. The price hike applies to insurance companies and hospitals.

toxoplasmosis being very uncommon doesn’t matter either. 1 in 1500 is still a lot of people, and he still hurt a lot of AIDS patients, unintentionally or not.

You referred to her blog description as something childish. I see it as the opposite. Fangirls, while sometimes immature, are often quite passionate about the fandom they are a part of. Take that energy and aim it towards real life issues. I read it as antikripkean is someone who became interested in real world problems and big issues, which I think is the opposite of childish.

Antikripkean is enthusiastic about what she stands for. From reading some of the longer stuff she posts on her blog, it’s very clear she puts lots of effort into these posts. Antikripkean does lots of research to formulate arguments and back up her claims, so it isn’t like she just picked two random obscure people out of the blue. No, she picked two public figures who have been on the news, interact with their fans, and pretty much qualify as famous.

Milo is far from a “good debater.” you may think so, but all he does is spew useless garbage. was it being a “good debater” that got him banned from Twitter? was being a “good debater” lead him so his recent Berkeley stunt? the truth is that he’s incompetent and the only reason why he became famous in the first place was a combination of being involved in GamerGate and showing charisma, but behind that facade he is an unpleasant troll

Martin Shkreli is probably worse for thinking raising the price of medicine by a ridiculous amount was totally a good idea, being found guilty of fraud, and thinking that bidding $5000 on whoever to get a lock of Hilary Clinton’s hair would not land him in trouble at all. so he must have really sucked y’all in with whatever nonsense he shared on youtube

enthusiasm is one thing and fangirling is a whole different thing. there’s nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but talking about Martin Shkreli like he’s a “pwecious babu that has done nothing wrong” is downright disturbing. I’ve seen some of her posts and they’re… concerning. like being concerned that Shkreli won’t get to eat his favorite foods like McDonalds while he’s in jail. I see this kind of talk out of fans of youtubers and kpop. this is almost comparable to those weirdos that are fans of serial killers; they don’t care about what they’ve done wrong and worship them to the point of being disturbing

so yeah, being fans of an artist or TV show is better than worshiping a guy who’s in jail and a guy that is struggling to offend people

Disclaimer: I’m a personal friend of Martin’s.

I’m nice (most of the time) but maaaan. This is some BS right here.

No. One. Has. Had. To. Go. Without. Daraprim. Because. They. Couldn’t. Afford. It.

Insurance companies cover the cost. If someone can’t afford it (for some reason, again, insurance covers it. (Also, if you’ve got aids/cancer, you are able to get insurance)

Martin himself offered to help. So, no, AIDS patients have NOT been harmed by this.

And Martin made the world “worse”?????

@gigasghosts Have you heard of Pantothenate Kinase-Associated Neurodegeneration?

(The answer is no, you haven’t. You can google.)

PKAN sucks. Is a super rare genetic disease that starts its effects in early childhood. It’s hard to study because it’s so rare. It’s hard to get funding for treatment research because it’s so rare.

Do you know who figured out a treatment for PKAN despite him having no formal medical training?

Martin. Shkreli.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=9629862.PN.&OS=PN/9629862&RS=PN/9629862

(I’m on mobile, sorry.) There’s the patent. Look who’s name is on there.

I can easily rant for ages about why Martin is a good person but there’s one HUGE (and easy to understand unless you’re a fan of sick kids) reason why Martin is an amazing person, @gigasghosts 🤷🏼‍♀️

People aren’t blindly defending his actions here. YOU are blindly disliking and attacking someone based simply on the small bits of info you’ve picked up along the way.

Sit.

I’m not a fan here. You came after my FRIEND with your ignorant bullshit, and I called you out.

Those two were VERY nice to you. They tried to teach you something and you blatantly ignored EVERYTHING they said.

Don’t like Martin cause he’s a sarcastic asshole and you can’t handle satire? Cool. That’s valid. You don’t have to like everyone.

You should generally be ready to back your shit up when you wanna spew your bullshit alternative facts.

(Or I mean, you’re totally able to shut up and stop responding.)

that doesn’t stop Shkreli from being a creep that deserves to be in jail for his crimes either. or maybe you forgot about those frauds and that stunt he pulled with Clinton? I really don’t want to hear what you have to say about those either bc I know exactly what you’re gonna say since you’re clearly still tight with the guy

“he raised the price to fund for finding a better medication for the treatment” is a weak argument. for example, chemotherapy is a terrible thing for cancer patients to go through, but right now it’s one of the best options we have for treating cancer. it’s better than just, ykno, dying early from cancer, so I’m glad that treatment exists until there’s a better option

there’s something not right about him raising the price of daraprim since AIDS affects a lot of LGBT people. I’m not saying he’s homophobic but his actions still effected a lot LGBT people

There appears to be a misunderstanding; Daraprim, the drug Martin Shkreli hiked the price for, is a treatment for toxoplasmosis, not AIDS. Now people who have AIDS are particularly vulnerable to toxoplasmosis due to their weakened immune system. I believe this misconception kind of went like a telephone game:

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and AIDS patients are particularly susceptible to it.

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and people with it are sometimes AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a parasitic disease which infects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a disease which affects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS.

See how the message changes?

Now with your cancer analogy, you raise a good point. Sometimes, people have to undergo dangerous treatment to help treat their illnesses when they don’t have better options available. In the case of cancer, chemo, while risky, is the best option for a lot of people since they don’t have a safer, more efficient, and more effective alternative. Yet there’s a major difference between cancer and toxoplasmosis.

It’s estimated that 14,738,719 people had some form of cancer in the United States during 2014. That is a lot. Now a lot of people have toxoplasmosis as well, yet very few people are affected by it since most people have an immune system strong enough to fight it off. It’s considered a rare disease, meaning less than 1 in 1500 Americans have the illness. Cancer harms a lot more people than toxoplasmosis, which is why there’s a lot of active research going on to find a cure. Toxoplasmosis, on the other hand, doesn’t have nearly as much research going into better forms of treatment. In fact, Martin Shkreli and his company are the only people to my knowledge trying to find a better treatment. They have to get the money for research and development since as far as I know, others aren’t attempting to make a better drug 

And people who need Daraprim are still able to get it, sometimes even for free. The price hike applies to insurance companies and hospitals.

toxoplasmosis being very uncommon doesn’t matter either. 1 in 1500 is still a lot of people, and he still hurt a lot of AIDS patients, unintentionally or not.

You referred to her blog description as something childish. I see it as the opposite. Fangirls, while sometimes immature, are often quite passionate about the fandom they are a part of. Take that energy and aim it towards real life issues. I read it as antikripkean is someone who became interested in real world problems and big issues, which I think is the opposite of childish.

Antikripkean is enthusiastic about what she stands for. From reading some of the longer stuff she posts on her blog, it’s very clear she puts lots of effort into these posts. Antikripkean does lots of research to formulate arguments and back up her claims, so it isn’t like she just picked two random obscure people out of the blue. No, she picked two public figures who have been on the news, interact with their fans, and pretty much qualify as famous.

Milo is far from a “good debater.” you may think so, but all he does is spew useless garbage. was it being a “good debater” that got him banned from Twitter? was being a “good debater” lead him so his recent Berkeley stunt? the truth is that he’s incompetent and the only reason why he became famous in the first place was a combination of being involved in GamerGate and showing charisma, but behind that facade he is an unpleasant troll

Martin Shkreli is probably worse for thinking raising the price of medicine by a ridiculous amount was totally a good idea, being found guilty of fraud, and thinking that bidding $5000 on whoever to get a lock of Hilary Clinton’s hair would not land him in trouble at all. so he must have really sucked y’all in with whatever nonsense he shared on youtube

enthusiasm is one thing and fangirling is a whole different thing. there’s nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but talking about Martin Shkreli like he’s a “pwecious babu that has done nothing wrong” is downright disturbing. I’ve seen some of her posts and they’re… concerning. like being concerned that Shkreli won’t get to eat his favorite foods like McDonalds while he’s in jail. I see this kind of talk out of fans of youtubers and kpop. this is almost comparable to those weirdos that are fans of serial killers; they don’t care about what they’ve done wrong and worship them to the point of being disturbing

so yeah, being fans of an artist or TV show is better than worshiping a guy who’s in jail and a guy that is struggling to offend people

If you really look into it, Daraprim isn’t as expensive as some other pharmaceutical drugs. There’s more expensive drugs. I’m talking like $2,000. Daraprim is a drug rarely taken too. It affects like 0.001 % of the pharmaceutical industry. If you don’t have insurance then Martin gives you the drug for free in a heartbeat.

Good point! :)

“he raised the price to fund for finding a better medication for the treatment” is a weak argument. for example, chemotherapy is a terrible thing for cancer patients to go through, but right now it’s one of the best options we have for treating cancer. it’s better than just, ykno, dying early from cancer, so I’m glad that treatment exists until there’s a better option

there’s something not right about him raising the price of daraprim since AIDS affects a lot of LGBT people. I’m not saying he’s homophobic but his actions still effected a lot LGBT people

There appears to be a misunderstanding; Daraprim, the drug Martin Shkreli hiked the price for, is a treatment for toxoplasmosis, not AIDS. Now people who have AIDS are particularly vulnerable to toxoplasmosis due to their weakened immune system. I believe this misconception kind of went like a telephone game:

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and AIDS patients are particularly susceptible to it.

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and people with it are sometimes AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a parasitic disease which infects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a disease which affects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS.

See how the message changes?

Now with your cancer analogy, you raise a good point. Sometimes, people have to undergo dangerous treatment to help treat their illnesses when they don’t have better options available. In the case of cancer, chemo, while risky, is the best option for a lot of people since they don’t have a safer, more efficient, and more effective alternative. Yet there’s a major difference between cancer and toxoplasmosis.

It’s estimated that 14,738,719 people had some form of cancer in the United States during 2014. That is a lot. Now a lot of people have toxoplasmosis as well, yet very few people are affected by it since most people have an immune system strong enough to fight it off. It’s considered a rare disease, meaning less than 1 in 1500 Americans have the illness. Cancer harms a lot more people than toxoplasmosis, which is why there’s a lot of active research going on to find a cure. Toxoplasmosis, on the other hand, doesn’t have nearly as much research going into better forms of treatment. In fact, Martin Shkreli and his company are the only people to my knowledge trying to find a better treatment. They have to get the money for research and development since as far as I know, others aren’t attempting to make a better drug 

And people who need Daraprim are still able to get it, sometimes even for free. The price hike applies to insurance companies and hospitals.

toxoplasmosis being very uncommon doesn’t matter either. 1 in 1500 is still a lot of people, and he still hurt a lot of AIDS patients, unintentionally or not.

“he raised the price to fund for finding a better medication for the treatment” is a weak argument. for example, chemotherapy is a terrible thing for cancer patients to go through, but right now it’s one of the best options we have for treating cancer. it’s better than just, ykno, dying early from cancer, so I’m glad that treatment exists until there’s a better option

there’s something not right about him raising the price of daraprim since AIDS affects a lot of LGBT people. I’m not saying he’s homophobic but his actions still effected a lot LGBT people

There appears to be a misunderstanding; Daraprim, the drug Martin Shkreli hiked the price for, is a treatment for toxoplasmosis, not AIDS. Now people who have AIDS are particularly vulnerable to toxoplasmosis due to their weakened immune system. I believe this misconception kind of went like a telephone game:

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and AIDS patients are particularly susceptible to it.

Daraprim treats toxoplasmosis, and people with it are sometimes AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a parasitic disease which infects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats a disease which affects AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS patients.

Daraprim treats AIDS.

See how the message changes?

Now with your cancer analogy, you raise a good point. Sometimes, people have to undergo dangerous treatment to help treat their illnesses when they don’t have better options available. In the case of cancer, chemo, while risky, is the best option for a lot of people since they don’t have a safer, more efficient, and more effective alternative. Yet there’s a major difference between cancer and toxoplasmosis.

It’s estimated that 14,738,719 people had some form of cancer in the United States during 2014. That is a lot. Now a lot of people have toxoplasmosis as well, yet very few people are affected by it since most people have an immune system strong enough to fight it off. It’s considered a rare disease, meaning less than 1 in 1500 Americans have the illness. Cancer harms a lot more people than toxoplasmosis, which is why there’s a lot of active research going on to find a cure. Toxoplasmosis, on the other hand, doesn’t have nearly as much research going into better forms of treatment. In fact, Martin Shkreli and his company are the only people to my knowledge trying to find a better treatment. They have to get the money for research and development since as far as I know, others aren’t attempting to make a better drug 

And people who need Daraprim are still able to get it, sometimes even for free. The price hike applies to insurance companies and hospitals.