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augghh just found out about michael sheen. that hurts. I believe Kate of course, id still like to see sheen's response before losing all hope completely.
As a young lil dumdum myself, i still believe shit men have the ability to become less shit. If he denies everything hes clearly still very shit. Ill need this asshat to apologize, own up to everything, hold himself accountable even after that AND start a process to better himself even if he believes he's changed.
The only bright side to hearing this about someone youre a fan of is that he has the power to influence other idiot men to stop being idiots.
Other than that, my heart is in my stomach and i almost feel bad looking for an upside to something so horribly disgusting.
you have more hope than me because I doubt Michael Sheen will say anything about it lol for my money he will just keep quiet and let people forget.
Hey sorry to bother you with this and I'm sure there's already a few like this ask already. I know the situation is still fresh and not much info is on it. But about the MS allegations. Have you learned more about it? If so, any thoughts? No pressure you can ignore this if you wish.
Just an impulse ask really. Probably not in the best mental state to ask.
I joined this fandom barely two months before the NG accusations hit and now this. This isn't me complaining about women coming out about abuse. I believe them. I still believe there's good people. I'm just tired.
I hope you have a nice day.
You being tired is totally understandable and frankly I am too π
No, there's nothing more about it that I could find. Here's her Instagram post (and here a tumblr post with it). She doesn't directly mentions Michael Sheen, which is complicated. people infer she's talking about him because that's what lines up, and I for example wouldn't know she was talking about him if people didn't tell me that was the case because I don't keep up with social media & celebrities lives. (not saying she isn't talking about him btw, just saying that the best guess is him, and I fully believe what she says she went trough ofc.)
I don't think my opinion matters because the facts are the facts and I'm just a guy, and I don't have (nor do I want to have) any influence over anyone. This blog sounds bigger than it truly is in fact π but since you asked, here it is (I will put it under the cut bc there will be some personal stuff, but tldr; I'll keep in fandom, my vision on MS changed a little of course, and we should believe when people say they suffered)
You see, one of the reasons it took me a couple days to get around and read about this it was because something similar happened in my family. Not the same thing, of course, butclose enough that I get a little bit uncomfortable.
My dad wasn't narcissistic or anything but he really did make my mum suffer (and she also made him suffer, because in my case they were mutually bad to each other. but that's not too relevant here), so when I read something like what Kate said it's upsetting to me on a personal level, and seeing people compare that to what NG did also hurts. What Michael did is of course wrong, and of course abusive, but I don't think it's nearly the same thing. There's a reason why being a rapist takes people to prison but being a horrible partner doesn't. To me, it feels like when people put these two things in the same position it undermines the abuse that Gaiman's victims went through, in a way. (and I can be very wrong about this, because comparing sufferings is always not nice, and in the end both situations come from similar places; misogyny and seeing other people, specially women, as less than human).
I think what I'm trying to say is that I believe Michael Sheen was a horrible/abusive partner to her, and that just now after years os that she managed to understand that with her life experience (like she says in the post). that is something very common. often we only are able to comprehend what happened after we get distance from it. But that I also believe in these situations people can get better and learn, because that's what happened to my dad. And I know that is fucked up to say because it may sound that I'm minimising the suffering that Kate went through, but I swear, I'm not. Again: I believe what she says, and I cannot being to imagine how hurt she was during it all and what she feels now.
Of course my view on Michael changed when I read that, but it's not such big of a shift because I've never idolised him. I think this is a reminder to all of us to not do that. Celebrities are humans, and humans are capable of very fucked up shit. When all of that thing about NG came to the surface I decided to keep in fandom because it matters too much to me, but more than that, because I don't see how making fancreations and participating in it is giving him any support. In fact, I feel like I can manage to use it for good like I did offering my works on FTH. This doesn't change with Michael Sheen. And because of the whole situation in my family I don't think I'd feel bad about watching plays/movies/etc he is in? it's extremely weird for me to say this and I don't feel good saying it, but it is how I feel now (and it can change). the thing is that Michael Sheen being a horrible/abusive partner is not shattering in the way that the whole NG thing is for me. (and I guess that's sad in its own way, because it probably should be).
I don't want people to change their view on this based on me. Nor do I want anyone to model their actions after my choices. I think I made it abundantly clear that my feelings and views on this are muddy and unreliable. there's a high chance that in the near future all my thinking process will change, or that more things will come to the surface. I also can be very wrong about all this; im just human and as i type this i can already see a bunch of ways i can be wrong. anyways. this was rambling enough, and I don't think I was too clear, and I'm sorry for that.
For those rushing to post evidence of Kate and Michael's amazing relationship over the years...
You're forgetting that abuse victims can sometimes not realize for many years what they experienced was abuse. Or some form of it anyway. If it's something they're used to, and it's what's normal to them, they don't know to expect better.
I know this personally from being raised in an abusive home and then having my bf(later husband) point out things to me that weren't ok about how I was being treated and I had no clue. I was 23. I knew something was off, but had no words for it.
So all the good things about MS and KB's relationship could be true, but ALSO the things she's saying now could be true, it just took her a long time to process them.
I love MS but I refuse to suddenly give him the benefit of the doubt just because I don't want him to be guilty.
I'm going to listen very carefully and thoughtfully to KB and see what else she has to say--and I'm certainly not going to rush to try to prove that she's a liar.
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More of Kate Beckinsale talking about her relationship with Michael Sheen, plus him defending Kate from cheating allegation and them both putting Lily first:
If credible evidence against Michael Sheen were provided, I would not be defending the person he was. I'm just pointing out through my interviews compilation (1) (2) that the information being given is contradicting what has been said and done for the past 30 years. He still hasn't responded to any of these accusations. So does Lily. Michael admitted that they have had their ups and downs, but are still very important to each other and always put Lily first. We don't know what happened 20+ years ago, and we haven't heard his side of the story.
What if things were exaggerated from a normal couple's quarrel? If Michael was being a nuisance during labour, wouldn't the doctors and nurses forced him out of the room? Also, the yelling while giving birth needs more context because who gives birth silently? He was also a first-time father and could have been emotional and overwhelm when saying things like "Push!", also Kate said in 2017 that he was being supportive and held her leg.
How was he a "narcissist"? Michael acknowledged that they "were both very needy" when they got together, and the letting go was mutual. A couple matured from their 20s. Plus, he is a talented actor - which does require having an ego, but that does not equal being narcissistic.
How was he "absent" and "abandon" Lily? For going to work? For finding jobs in a different country because he could not get roles in America to provide for them, but still try to call everyday and be there at every important occasion?
How did he "smear" Kate, when he could have painted her a cheater and homewrecker as she left him for Len Wiseman and broke up Len's marriage with his wife Dana, but didn't and instead defended her honor?
Constant cheating, if it happened 30 years ago, it's terrible but isn't illegal (men in showbiz smh βοΈ). Mur/d3r, stealing, stalking, SA are. Kate accused not only him, but also her friends and relatives and co-workers in her cryptic posts with mixed up allegations. We don't know which person did what exactly. Until direct name calling and convincing evidence of illegal practices appear, I'm not jumping on a hate bandwagon just because Michael Sheen is a famous man.
Context matters. False allegations can KILL. Presumptions of guilt is unethical and against human rights.
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MICHAEL SHEEN WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE WHO SAVED KATE BECKINSALE AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD CO-PARENT
She did not name him in her post, and the story and timeline do not match up. Kate was pregnant with Lily when she was 26, not 24 (Edit: Kate was 25, and i admit this is an understandable mistake). Michael did not live with Kate and her new partner in 2011 (There is still no proof of this atm). Not only was he awake in the delivery room, he held Kate's leg when she gave birth to Lily and they named her together.
Michael saved Kate from an0r3)(ia and other mental problems the whole time they were together:
Michael was of help during the labour, holding Kate's leg and named their child Lily together:
He also saved her from ha.rassm3nt by her co-star Jeremy Northam on set:
Michael has NEVER abandoned Lily. He moved to America TO BE WITH HER and was there in all important occasions. HE DID TWILIGHT FOR LILY:
On the contrary, Michael was usually the one who was being made fun of by Kate, Lily and Sarah Silverman:
There is no proof of him initiating any smear campaign against Kate. He defended her against cheating allegations with Len Wiseman.
He was even on good term with her parents AND PET CAT before they passed away and was at their funeral just last year:
Kate has been going through so much and i do feel sorry for her. But I am not going to assume from a blind post and jump on the witch hunt of accusing Michael when things do not add up.
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I'm rereading Dr Faustus and I need you guys to know that if I ever met a man like this in real life even I with my Immense Scrawny Weakling-ness would momentarily be powerful enough to kill him with my bare hands. He's so pretentious. He's literally written as a personification of human hubris and ambition. He fumbled Mephistopheles. He's obsessed with Helen of Troy. He speaks Latin to be pretentious and stuck up, then immediately fucking translates it because he's a fictional character whose audience would not have understood Latin, which is is somehow worse than if he spoke Latin just to be pretentious WITHOUT translating it. He's a theology professor. I need that twink obliterated and not in a sexual way. I want him killed.
Will Crowley and Aziraphale get their heads out of their arses long enough to actually talk to each other? Will Gabriel finally get his comeuppance? Will there be a happy ending?
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Chapter Seven and Epilogue
If you don't know my little Advertising Agency AU yet, now's the perfect time. Here's a little synopsis:
After more than twenty years in publishing, Aziraphale Fell finds himself redundant and desperate enough to try advertising. As a senior copywriter he's paired with Crowley, a cynical art director who's spent years in the agency coasting on talent and contempt.
They shouldn't work together well. But somehow they do.
Life's a Pitch
Thank you for reading and cheering me on. You're all absolutely lovely. π
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