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Are we few who actually like btvs s5-7 more than s1-3? ( s4 is an odd one in between but I love it too )
I constantly see people mourn the innocent and carefree days of the high school era and I just… don’t? it of course does have its charm and especially is fun to see if you did not have the American high school experience, 90s one as well. But it also is quite dark too, s2 is really hard to watch in the second half when Buffy is going through psychological horrors of Angelus.
S5-7 to me are what defines Buffy as a serious show, so many interesting episodes and it tackles real life way better than earlier seasons do. You relate to these characters, you want to see them succeed and yet they keep failing, and nothing is as easy or black and white.
S1-3 are fun. S5-7 are what make Buffy iconic.
I also find it telling that so many people seem to loudly prefer Buffy when she's A) a minor and B) constantly kowtowing to the men in her life versus Buffy become an independent, self-actualized woman who trusts her own judgment and doesn't apologize for being right in the face of extreme and frankly unearned doubt.
Also I'm pretty sure the venn diagram of the people who enjoy "carefree" Buffy and the people who say "I like Angel more because it's a serious show" is a circle.
Are we few who actually like btvs s5-7 more than s1-3? ( s4 is an odd one in between but I love it too )
I constantly see people mourn the innocent and carefree days of the high school era and I just… don’t? it of course does have its charm and especially is fun to see if you did not have the American high school experience, 90s one as well. But it also is quite dark too, s2 is really hard to watch in the second half when Buffy is going through psychological horrors of Angelus.
S5-7 to me are what defines Buffy as a serious show, so many interesting episodes and it tackles real life way better than earlier seasons do. You relate to these characters, you want to see them succeed and yet they keep failing, and nothing is as easy or black and white.
I had almost the exact same experience. S3 was the season I struggled to get through the most during first watch and now that I’m rewatching I’m struggling to finish it again lol
I genuinely don’t understand why so many ppl love it so much and even say it’s better than s5 ( which is the ultimate peak of the show hello? )
Oh this was me. S3 stopped me *dead* on my first watch, and I think only knowing it was coming off of Netflix kept me watching on my first whole watch through. Some of the individual episodes are great and there's a lot of (largely untapped) potential, but the season as a whole is a slog every time.
I’m literally at least 3 months in now… it’s the longest it’s taking me to finish a season of Buffy ( and it’s not like I was super busy not being able to watch either it’s just not exciting for me )
but I think I’ll finally be able to wrap it up soon cause this final run of episodes at least is interconnected.
Yeah it winds up some towards the end and generally I like the denouement more than the season as a whole. Also you get to the prom and go WHEEE I'M ON THE HOME STRETCH 🤣
Seasons 4-6 are definitely my favorites, and season 3 is low on my list. Things I dislike about season 3:
Buffy and the Scoobies never clear the air about the issues popping up in episode 2.
The fact that Angel comes back. Buffy was coming to terms with the terrible choice she had to make. It would have been amazing if she continued to grow and heal. Then Angel comes back, and she backslides to square one. Also I hate Angel.
They took away Buffy’s natural rebelliousness and made her a lot more prim and proper to contrast with Faith.
Everything about Faith’s arc.
I see a lot of fans who like Faith and the Mayor’s relationship and describe it as fatherly. It is clearly (to me, anyway) that the Mayor is labor trafficking Faith.
I love the monster of the week episodes and wanted more.
The retcon of the "metaphor for an older man who changes once he gets sex" into "oh but it's twu wuv" is maybe S3's biggest sin to me, along with how much Angel tramples on Buffy's agency and won't let her break up with him but then calls her a brat when she struggles a little with him leaving her. Just. God I hate everything about that. My kingdom for a season three where Buffy got to heal from her Angel damage and having to send him to hell.
The Madonna/whore thing they had going with Faith is so annoying.
The one off episodes are definitely the highlight of the season for me, though I think the finale is largely entertaining.
^^All of this.
And why didn’t we see dramatic changes in Angel? He and Buffy act like no time has passed since the night they first had sex. We don’t see any conversations they have to discuss everything that happened, and he’s been tortured for 100 years, but no, they’re gonna start up right again into a relationship.
Then we get to lovers walk and she's like actually this isn't good for me, and Angel literally says "I don't accept that" - there's zero agency, she's simply not allowed to end things on her terms.
And then you get amends, where Angel conspicuously fails to make amends, then threatens to commit suicide in front of her, and this is... romantic apparently? Just what the fuck is happening.
Like I guess if you're heavy into angst, but it is Not For Me, Thanks. I think S3 kills Bangel deader even than him losing his soul did, for me. Soulless Angel treating her poorly makes sense, but then they pull this shit when he's 'good' and present it as romantic, and I'm just not about that life.
(If I weren't already over their entire relationship, him calling her a brat alone, never mind the context, would kill it dead. Directly to jail. You do not get to date a teenaged girl then act surprised when she is a teenaged girl, AND ALSO Buffy actually accepts him breaking up with her, she's just not happy about it; she acts more mature about it than Angel did.)
And this all comes after the setup of S2 with shit like Angel acting like Buffy bores him to tears half the time (Ted being a prime example, she's worried about her mom while she's literally tending Angel's wounds, and Angel acts like this whole conversation is such a chore), and I'm supposed to believe they're suddenly soulmates? I don't even believe he likes her. Thinks she's hot, thinks she proves he's redeemed, wants to possess her, sure. Actually enjoys her company? Not so much.
Then you have all the non-Angel sins of S3, the poor handling of Eliza's limited availability, just... season three has some really interesting characters and concepts, and some very fun one off episodes, but as a whole season of TV it fails to work for me on multiple levels.
... yeah, season three grinds my gears 🤣 probably doesn't help that there's the makings of a really good season in there and then it's just "meh".
Mood.

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James Baldwin photographed by Carl Van Vechten on September 13, 1955.
William Petersen in TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. (1985), dir. William Friedkin ↳ Revisiting this series.
Robby Müller’s cinematography in this movie is sublime. Never overly dramatic or unrealistic and still beautiful to behold. And how striking is that strip club locale? How Chance parks his truck behind it? Friedkin took what could have been a throwaway little interlude and made it memorable.
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I don’t mean to be old but computer used to just have games. U didnt have to pay for em either but if u wanted u could get a little CD that put the game onto the computer and you could play it forever and ever even if the company that made it went to hell and shit. You didn’t even need the internet or wifi or anything. And it was pretty neat
It would be a finished game, too. If you played long enough and did really good you could go to all the places and get all the stuff. You never had to pay more money later it was just there. onn compter
I’ve been seriously considering buying an old PC just so I can play King’s Quest VII: The Princeless Bride again.
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