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guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
I reblogged a post. I'm not removing the reblog because it wasn't even their post in the first place. You're practically claiming death threat by proxy at this point and it's really, really silly. You've placed yourself on a high horse and you won't step down to see how genuinely ridiculous what you're accusing me of actually is. "Retract the reblog or you actually want me to kill myself >:(!!!!" Mate.. What?
Also never told anyone to apologise for opinions on fictional characters. What you're doing is reading between lines that aren't there.
"I'm not removing the reblog" ok I'll sound just like you then! You're defending someone who puts harmful concepts in the world and that makes you their defender, which means you're a suicide-baiter defender. That's what you sound like when you parrot the sentiment re: Marius and his defenders. If you're upset with the logic, take a good look at yourself. Turn it into Mad Libs.
"it wasn't even their post in the first place" yeah, I know this. Do you follow them, perhaps? How did you come across the post on their blog to reblog it from them?
I'm saying your hypocrisy shines through in your inability to stand against an actual person telling someone else to kill themselves while calling people who discuss a fictional character pedophile defenders. You ignore my analogy but it's true, if I like and defend Darth Vader that doesn't make me a defender of child murdering and blowing up planets. If you agree with that statement, what makes Marius any different? That's literally exactly what you're saying about Marius but with different words. You literally equate defending a fictional character with facts from their source text to being a real-life pedophile defender, yet you refuse to see that in "supporting" and "defending" this person and your reblog from them that you are providing more actual "support" to a more tangibly harmful person than anyone who engages with Marius.
"never told anyone to apologize" shit you're right! You just want us to admit we like and defend pedophiles! Fuck off.
a reblog of a reblog isn't any support whatsoever because I'm not supporting a post they made. it was on my dash idk how it popped up and I didn't really feel the need to go searching.
I also responded to your stupid, nonsensical, really ridiculously annoying, shitty Darth Vadar analogy already with why it doesn't work here. But, obviously, by that point you had already clutched your pearls and decided you wouldn't engage with my valid arguments and instead wanted to virtue signal 😬 something you think is a big no no!!
Oop this is me telling you to fuck off on your own post! Again!
I love that you tell others to grow the fuck up when you think something like this is a valid response.
Amadeo fucked Marius nasty style and they'll keep doing it and they'll keep loving it and let me tell you I'm gonna keep loving it too
Amadeo lusted for Marius and begged for his affections and loved him and the whole book is partially porno, if you don't want to comprehend reality, that's not my problem. You know how when you look at a fairytale and there's like, idk, princes kissing sleeping princesses? Do you judge those characters and tell people who like Sleeping Beauty or Snow White that they're noncon defenders? No. Because it's stupid because it's a fairytale that exists in a fairytale world. Same goes for TVA. It's fairytale, gothic, vampire erotica. And it's fucking hot.
You continue to miss the point. I don't care if you don't find them hot. I don't care if you say "I don't personally enjoy this ship or this character because of my personal experiences." I respect that.
What becomes puritanical is insisting that people who feel differently than you (in this case, those who like the ship and the character and defend both) are defending any kind of real crime and actually put harm into our real world, as you stated here:
So, yeah. I find Marimand hot. I think their dynamic can be toxically attractive. Do you think people who ship Hannigram also support cannibalism, murder, and kidnapping? Do you think those who discuss Hannibal's motives and Will's attraction for him are putting harm into the world for real victims?
TVA can be and is arguably meant to be read erotically, I'm not going to be ashamed for that. I'm not going to judge people on their fictional preferences and say they're defending an actual heinous crime.
I actually feel really sorry for you so I'm gonna end this now because we're not getting anywhere and it's actually starting to bum me out a bit because I do genuinely think you're coming from a valid place of hurt, you're just going about it very badly.
My point always stands. Using real life talking points to defend a fictional ship is weird, liking the fictional ship isn't. You don't have to defend the actions to enjoy the media you're consuming. Don't ever feel ashamed for finding comfort, catharsis or enjoyment in anything. But don't expect people to coddle you when you say things that could make other people look at their own abuse through a lens of shame. If you truly believe the words on a screen, from a stranger, can have harm and impact then you understand that concept.
I hope you have a better day ❤️
"this is getting to the point where I'm starting to feel bad" but you don't! Because you keep reblogging and keep debating and when you're not doing that you're spending the time on your blog vagueposting about it or posting hate in the Marius tag after acknowledging that it wasn't good etiquette to do so in the first place. This is yet another example of your hypocrisy! If you feel bad for the stress, why keep inflicting it? Why ragebait the tag?
Literally tell me where I used real life talking points to defend anything I don't even know what you're talking about and what point that's trying to make because I NEVER defended any real life actions of ANYONE.
"don't expect people to coddle you when you say things that could make other people look at their abuse through a lens of shame" what are you even talking about????
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
I reblogged a post. I'm not removing the reblog because it wasn't even their post in the first place. You're practically claiming death threat by proxy at this point and it's really, really silly. You've placed yourself on a high horse and you won't step down to see how genuinely ridiculous what you're accusing me of actually is. "Retract the reblog or you actually want me to kill myself >:(!!!!" Mate.. What?
Also never told anyone to apologise for opinions on fictional characters. What you're doing is reading between lines that aren't there.
"I'm not removing the reblog" ok I'll sound just like you then! You're defending someone who puts harmful concepts in the world and that makes you their defender, which means you're a suicide-baiter defender. That's what you sound like when you parrot the sentiment re: Marius and his defenders. If you're upset with the logic, take a good look at yourself. Turn it into Mad Libs.
"it wasn't even their post in the first place" yeah, I know this. Do you follow them, perhaps? How did you come across the post on their blog to reblog it from them?
I'm saying your hypocrisy shines through in your inability to stand against an actual person telling someone else to kill themselves while calling people who discuss a fictional character pedophile defenders. You ignore my analogy but it's true, if I like and defend Darth Vader that doesn't make me a defender of child murdering and blowing up planets. If you agree with that statement, what makes Marius any different? That's literally exactly what you're saying about Marius but with different words. You literally equate defending a fictional character with facts from their source text to being a real-life pedophile defender, yet you refuse to see that in "supporting" and "defending" this person and your reblog from them that you are providing more actual "support" to a more tangibly harmful person than anyone who engages with Marius.
"never told anyone to apologize" shit you're right! You just want us to admit we like and defend pedophiles! Fuck off.
a reblog of a reblog isn't any support whatsoever because I'm not supporting a post they made. it was on my dash idk how it popped up and I didn't really feel the need to go searching.
I also responded to your stupid, nonsensical, really ridiculously annoying, shitty Darth Vadar analogy already with why it doesn't work here. But, obviously, by that point you had already clutched your pearls and decided you wouldn't engage with my valid arguments and instead wanted to virtue signal 😬 something you think is a big no no!!
Oop this is me telling you to fuck off on your own post! Again!
I love that you tell others to grow the fuck up when you think something like this is a valid response.
Amadeo fucked Marius nasty style and they'll keep doing it and they'll keep loving it and let me tell you I'm gonna keep loving it too
Amadeo lusted for Marius and begged for his affections and loved him and the whole book is partially porno, if you don't want to comprehend reality, that's not my problem. You know how when you look at a fairytale and there's like, idk, princes kissing sleeping princesses? Do you judge those characters and tell people who like Sleeping Beauty or Snow White that they're noncon defenders? No. Because it's stupid because it's a fairytale that exists in a fairytale world. Same goes for TVA. It's fairytale, gothic, vampire erotica. And it's fucking hot.
You continue to miss the point. I don't care if you don't find them hot. I don't care if you say "I don't personally enjoy this ship or this character because of my personal experiences." I respect that.
What becomes puritanical is insisting that people who feel differently than you (in this case, those who like the ship and the character and defend both) are defending any kind of real crime and actually put harm into our real world, as you stated here:
So, yeah. I find Marimand hot. I think their dynamic can be toxically attractive. Do you think people who ship Hannigram also support cannibalism, murder, and kidnapping? Do you think those who discuss Hannibal's motives and Will's attraction for him are putting harm into the world for real victims?
TVA can be and is arguably meant to be read erotically, I'm not going to be ashamed for that. I'm not going to judge people on their fictional preferences and say they're defending an actual heinous crime.
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
I reblogged a post. I'm not removing the reblog because it wasn't even their post in the first place. You're practically claiming death threat by proxy at this point and it's really, really silly. You've placed yourself on a high horse and you won't step down to see how genuinely ridiculous what you're accusing me of actually is. "Retract the reblog or you actually want me to kill myself >:(!!!!" Mate.. What?
Also never told anyone to apologise for opinions on fictional characters. What you're doing is reading between lines that aren't there.
"I'm not removing the reblog" ok I'll sound just like you then! You're defending someone who puts harmful concepts in the world and that makes you their defender, which means you're a suicide-baiter defender. That's what you sound like when you parrot the sentiment re: Marius and his defenders. If you're upset with the logic, take a good look at yourself. Turn it into Mad Libs.
"it wasn't even their post in the first place" yeah, I know this. Do you follow them, perhaps? How did you come across the post on their blog to reblog it from them?
I'm saying your hypocrisy shines through in your inability to stand against an actual person telling someone else to kill themselves while calling people who discuss a fictional character pedophile defenders. You ignore my analogy but it's true, if I like and defend Darth Vader that doesn't make me a defender of child murdering and blowing up planets. If you agree with that statement, what makes Marius any different? That's literally exactly what you're saying about Marius but with different words. You literally equate defending a fictional character with facts from their source text to being a real-life pedophile defender, yet you refuse to see that in "supporting" and "defending" this person and your reblog from them that you are providing more actual "support" to a more tangibly harmful person than anyone who engages with Marius.
"never told anyone to apologize" shit you're right! You just want us to admit we like and defend pedophiles! Fuck off.
a reblog of a reblog isn't any support whatsoever because I'm not supporting a post they made. it was on my dash idk how it popped up and I didn't really feel the need to go searching.
I also responded to your stupid, nonsensical, really ridiculously annoying, shitty Darth Vadar analogy already with why it doesn't work here. But, obviously, by that point you had already clutched your pearls and decided you wouldn't engage with my valid arguments and instead wanted to virtue signal 😬 something you think is a big no no!!
Oop this is me telling you to fuck off on your own post! Again!
I love that you tell others to grow the fuck up when you think something like this is a valid response.
Amadeo fucked Marius nasty style and they'll keep doing it and they'll keep loving it and let me tell you I'm gonna keep loving it too
Amadeo lusted for Marius and begged for his affections and loved him and the whole book is partially porno, if you don't want to comprehend reality, that's not my problem. You know how when you look at a fairytale and there's like, idk, princes kissing sleeping princesses? Do you judge those characters and tell people who like Sleeping Beauty or Snow White that they're noncon defenders? No. Because it's stupid because it's a fairytale that exists in a fairytale world. Same goes for TVA. It's fairytale, gothic, vampire erotica. And it's fucking hot.
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
I reblogged a post. I'm not removing the reblog because it wasn't even their post in the first place. You're practically claiming death threat by proxy at this point and it's really, really silly. You've placed yourself on a high horse and you won't step down to see how genuinely ridiculous what you're accusing me of actually is. "Retract the reblog or you actually want me to kill myself >:(!!!!" Mate.. What?
Also never told anyone to apologise for opinions on fictional characters. What you're doing is reading between lines that aren't there.
"I'm not removing the reblog" ok I'll sound just like you then! You're defending someone who puts harmful concepts in the world and that makes you their defender, which means you're a suicide-baiter defender. That's what you sound like when you parrot the sentiment re: Marius and his defenders. If you're upset with the logic, take a good look at yourself. Turn it into Mad Libs.
"it wasn't even their post in the first place" yeah, I know this. Do you follow them, perhaps? How did you come across the post on their blog to reblog it from them?
I'm saying your hypocrisy shines through in your inability to stand against an actual person telling someone else to kill themselves while calling people who discuss a fictional character pedophile defenders. You ignore my analogy but it's true, if I like and defend Darth Vader that doesn't make me a defender of child murdering and blowing up planets. If you agree with that statement, what makes Marius any different? That's literally exactly what you're saying about Marius but with different words. You literally equate defending a fictional character with facts from their source text to being a real-life pedophile defender, yet you refuse to see that in "supporting" and "defending" this person and your reblog from them that you are providing more actual "support" to a more tangibly harmful person than anyone who engages with Marius.
"never told anyone to apologize" shit you're right! You just want us to admit we like and defend pedophiles! Fuck off.
a reblog of a reblog isn't any support whatsoever because I'm not supporting a post they made. it was on my dash idk how it popped up and I didn't really feel the need to go searching.
I also responded to your stupid, nonsensical, really ridiculously annoying, shitty Darth Vadar analogy already with why it doesn't work here. But, obviously, by that point you had already clutched your pearls and decided you wouldn't engage with my valid arguments and instead wanted to virtue signal 😬 something you think is a big no no!!
Oop this is me telling you to fuck off on your own post! Again!
I love that you tell others to grow the fuck up when you think something like this is a valid response.
Amadeo fucked Marius nasty style and they'll keep doing it and they'll keep loving it and let me tell you I'm gonna keep loving it too
Amadeo lusted for Marius and begged for his affections and loved him and the whole book is partially porno, if you don't want to comprehend reality, that's not my problem. You know how when you look at a fairytale and there's like, idk, princes kissing sleeping princesses? Do you judge those characters and tell people who like Sleeping Beauty or Snow White that they're noncon defenders? No. Because it's stupid because it's a fairytale that exists in a fairytale world. Same goes for TVA. It's fairytale, gothic, vampire erotica. And it's fucking hot.
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guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
I reblogged a post. I'm not removing the reblog because it wasn't even their post in the first place. You're practically claiming death threat by proxy at this point and it's really, really silly. You've placed yourself on a high horse and you won't step down to see how genuinely ridiculous what you're accusing me of actually is. "Retract the reblog or you actually want me to kill myself >:(!!!!" Mate.. What?
Also never told anyone to apologise for opinions on fictional characters. What you're doing is reading between lines that aren't there.
"I'm not removing the reblog" ok I'll sound just like you then! You're defending someone who puts harmful concepts in the world and that makes you their defender, which means you're a suicide-baiter defender. That's what you sound like when you parrot the sentiment re: Marius and his defenders. If you're upset with the logic, take a good look at yourself. Turn it into Mad Libs.
"it wasn't even their post in the first place" yeah, I know this. Do you follow them, perhaps? How did you come across the post on their blog to reblog it from them?
I'm saying your hypocrisy shines through in your inability to stand against an actual person telling someone else to kill themselves while calling people who discuss a fictional character pedophile defenders. You ignore my analogy but it's true, if I like and defend Darth Vader that doesn't make me a defender of child murdering and blowing up planets. If you agree with that statement, what makes Marius any different? That's literally exactly what you're saying about Marius but with different words. You literally equate defending a fictional character with facts from their source text to being a real-life pedophile defender, yet you refuse to see that in "supporting" and "defending" this person and your reblog from them that you are providing more actual "support" to a more tangibly harmful person than anyone who engages with Marius.
"never told anyone to apologize" shit you're right! You just want us to admit we like and defend pedophiles! Fuck off.
a reblog of a reblog isn't any support whatsoever because I'm not supporting a post they made. it was on my dash idk how it popped up and I didn't really feel the need to go searching.
I also responded to your stupid, nonsensical, really ridiculously annoying, shitty Darth Vadar analogy already with why it doesn't work here. But, obviously, by that point you had already clutched your pearls and decided you wouldn't engage with my valid arguments and instead wanted to virtue signal 😬 something you think is a big no no!!
Oop this is me telling you to fuck off on your own post! Again!
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
I reblogged a post. I'm not removing the reblog because it wasn't even their post in the first place. You're practically claiming death threat by proxy at this point and it's really, really silly. You've placed yourself on a high horse and you won't step down to see how genuinely ridiculous what you're accusing me of actually is. "Retract the reblog or you actually want me to kill myself >:(!!!!" Mate.. What?
Also never told anyone to apologise for opinions on fictional characters. What you're doing is reading between lines that aren't there.
"I'm not removing the reblog" ok I'll sound just like you then! You're defending someone who puts harmful concepts in the world and that makes you their defender, which means you're a suicide-baiter defender. That's what you sound like when you parrot the sentiment re: Marius and his defenders. If you're upset with the logic, take a good look at yourself. Turn it into Mad Libs.
"it wasn't even their post in the first place" yeah, I know this. Do you follow them, perhaps? How did you come across the post on their blog to reblog it from them?
I'm saying your hypocrisy shines through in your inability to stand against an actual person telling someone else to kill themselves while calling people who discuss a fictional character pedophile defenders. You ignore my analogy but it's true, if I like and defend Darth Vader that doesn't make me a defender of child murdering and blowing up planets. If you agree with that statement, what makes Marius any different? That's literally exactly what you're saying about Marius but with different words. You literally equate defending a fictional character with facts from their source text to being a real-life pedophile defender, yet you refuse to see that in "supporting" and "defending" this person and your reblog from them that you are providing more actual "support" to a more tangibly harmful person than anyone who engages with Marius.
"never told anyone to apologize" shit you're right! You just want us to admit we like and defend pedophiles! Fuck off.
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
I'm not apologising for other people's actions. I'm not apologising for reblogging from someone who said something mean to you. I'm not going to even address it because it had nothing to do with me.
my comment about the racism was not in defense of their actions but just a comment in general because you were morally grandstanding while ignoring the fact you were being told by a person of colour that you were being racist. doesn't really make sense or match up. usually it's wise to reflect on why you're being told that.
it actually doesn't tie into anything we were talking about because we were talking about defending a fictional pedophile not the rights and wrongs of telling people to kill themselves. if I really must say it, if you can't actually use your brain to grasp this, I don't condone telling people to kill themselves but I don't have the obligation to address what other people are saying in discussions with you outside of me. So, again, it had nothing to do with me and I have no reason to speak on it. you actually aren't entitled to my opinion on anything outside of what we were discussing. this happened outside of what we were discussing. again. it had nothing to do with me. AGAIN. it had zero to do with me. For a third time. It had nothing to do with me.
and just to add some posturing and virtue signalling in the style you belive it exists, or maybe I'm just trying to placate because this is getting exhausting: someone actively suicidal, such as myself, obviously doesn't enjoy people being told to kill themselves. someone who has tried to kill themselves is actually super against it. someone who is currently on suicide watch at home isn't going to condone it.
but AGAIN this is a separate opinion to what we were talking about and therefore actually doesn't matter.
"I'm not apologizing for being involved with someone who told another person to kill themselves but I think Marius fans are pedophile defenders and should apologize for fictional opinions" ok! so your interaction with a real person giving real threats doesn't put harm into the world, but fictional opinions do? You're literally making a choice to continue associating with them by not retracting the reblog. Has nothing to do with "apologizing for someone else's actions."
"you should reflect on why you're being called racist" yeah I did and literally just showed you why, it's because I like a fictional character. That's not being racist. That's not even something affecting real life.
You've shown who you are enough.
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
And my point is you should have told me outside of the argument we were having because it had nothing to do with the argument we were having. I also did not double down on interacting with them because it has nothing to do with me. AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all.
"It has nothing to do with the argument we were having."
Has it crossed you're mind that we keep going in circles because you're blatantly ignoring what I'm saying? Here's why it does:
Ties right into the direct claim of your initial post and discussion, as well as your current stance.
"I did not double down on interacting with them."
Yes, you did. Right here:
Nowhere in that post is a retraction or apology or even acknowledgement of disapproval. The entire content is you trying to back up why the anon is wrong for calling you out and doubling down on why you don't care.
"AND I didn't justify them doing any such thing. At all."
Again, yes you did:
Do you know why they were calling me a racist? No, you don't. Spoiler alert: it's because I like Marius de Romanus and I said that nonwhite fans of his character exist.
Don't comment on a discussion you weren't a part of if you don't know and are going to ignore the entire picture. Especially if you want to tell others not to do the same. Which makes you what? A hypocrite!
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guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I didn't even see it until so much later and I didn't know you had interacted with that person when I reblogged their post oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fucking exhausting 😭😭😭
"I didn't know you interacted with that person"
Right, which is why I told you. And your reaction was not to retract your involvement with them, you doubled down on it and justified their position of telling me to kill myself.
I love winning arguments
Actually, no. I do not like winning arguments by being ignored because there's no valid argument to make against the argument I made. That shits cowardice.
You didn't win an argument.
I raised the comment to highlight your own hypocrisy, which is exactly what it did. You are trying to claim that liking and/or discussing a fictional character somehow equates to tangible harm in real life, which it absolutely does not.
You know what actually can? Telling people to kill themselves.
It's not cowardice for me to step away from you because I don't consider the opinions of those who believe that behavior to be acceptable in any scenario to be worth my time.
You know what is cowardice, though? Not condemning someone telling a real life person to kill themselves and proceeding to double-down on it and try to justify their position.
And you know what's hilarious? That it proves every point I was making about you.
but it had nothing to do with what we were talking about. I don't know the person you were talking to. you didn't highlight any hypocrisy at all. again, the way you go about things baffles the ever loving fuck out of me.
It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can't even understand that fact when I'm spelling it out for you.
Your claim: defending/liking/whatever Marius means putting harm into the world and being a pedophile defender. (Emphasis on the fact that you don't like people who state the fact that Amadeo was into it, which he was and is not debatable.)
from a comment of yours
My point: you reblogged from someone who told me to kill themselves, then doubled down on not saying that was a wrong thing to do and went so far as to try and validate them. Telling someone to kill themselves is, regardless of context and circumstance (barring a blatant supremacist or Nazi or the like), a wrong thing to do and actually can have tangible consequences in a way that what you're claiming liking/defending Marius does not.
So, yes, I am highlighting your hypocrisy in that you will condemn people who like/defend a fictional character but will not condemn a real life person who told another living breathing human being to kill themselves multiple times and violently.
That is hypocrisy.
You still haven't said that was a wrong thing for someone to do. You literally just doubled down wanting to look like you "won an argument" and tried to justify that the person who told me to kill myself had a [valid] reason to do so.
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
you're putting words in my mouth now and it's getting really silly lol
"I'm not going to talk about something that has nothing to do with me" ≠ "yeah I think this is a good thing to do!!"
what you're doing right now is clinging to a point you feel you have a moral right to so you can ignore literally everything else and what I have said. Over and over again.
But one more time!
1) It isn't wrong to like Marius as a character, 2) your beef with other people has nothing to do with me, 3) I have no obligation to address something you are using to try to derail an argument. if you wished to inform me of something someone has done you could have sent me a message to let me know that I reblogged from someone who did that. instead, you used it at the end of a post that did not have any reason for such a thing to be addressed on.
😭😭😭 you can't fucking read, this is gruelling
this is making my blog look ugly should we take it to dms?
No lmao, you can stop reblogging. I'm not taking a conversation where someone's letting suicide threats slide, reinforcing a baseless claim that I'm racist, and calling me a pedophile defender into DMs
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
okay actually one more time: it had nothing to do with the post and you could have told me separately but you, instead, chose to tag it onto the end of your point to use it as a call out and therefore I don't have any reason to address it.
Correct, because it did have to do with the post, as I explained over and over again now.
It has to do with your hypocrisy. Your claims and your condemnation.
I love winning arguments
Actually, no. I do not like winning arguments by being ignored because there's no valid argument to make against the argument I made. That shits cowardice.
You didn't win an argument.
I raised the comment to highlight your own hypocrisy, which is exactly what it did. You are trying to claim that liking and/or discussing a fictional character somehow equates to tangible harm in real life, which it absolutely does not.
You know what actually can? Telling people to kill themselves.
It's not cowardice for me to step away from you because I don't consider the opinions of those who believe that behavior to be acceptable in any scenario to be worth my time.
You know what is cowardice, though? Not condemning someone telling a real life person to kill themselves and proceeding to double-down on it and try to justify their position.
And you know what's hilarious? That it proves every point I was making about you.
but it had nothing to do with what we were talking about. I don't know the person you were talking to. you didn't highlight any hypocrisy at all. again, the way you go about things baffles the ever loving fuck out of me.
It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can't even understand that fact when I'm spelling it out for you.
Your claim: defending/liking/whatever Marius means putting harm into the world and being a pedophile defender. (Emphasis on the fact that you don't like people who state the fact that Amadeo was into it, which he was and is not debatable.)
from a comment of yours
My point: you reblogged from someone who told me to kill themselves, then doubled down on not saying that was a wrong thing to do and went so far as to try and validate them. Telling someone to kill themselves is, regardless of context and circumstance (barring a blatant supremacist or Nazi or the like), a wrong thing to do and actually can have tangible consequences in a way that what you're claiming liking/defending Marius does not.
So, yes, I am highlighting your hypocrisy in that you will condemn people who like/defend a fictional character but will not condemn a real life person who told another living breathing human being to kill themselves multiple times and violently.
That is hypocrisy.
You still haven't said that was a wrong thing for someone to do. You literally just doubled down wanting to look like you "won an argument" and tried to justify that the person who told me to kill myself had a [valid] reason to do so.
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
you're putting words in my mouth now and it's getting really silly lol
"I'm not going to talk about something that has nothing to do with me" ≠ "yeah I think this is a good thing to do!!"
what you're doing right now is clinging to a point you feel you have a moral right to so you can ignore literally everything else and what I have said. Over and over again.
But one more time!
1) It isn't wrong to like Marius as a character, 2) your beef with other people has nothing to do with me, 3) I have no obligation to address something you are using to try to derail an argument. if you wished to inform me of something someone has done you could have sent me a message to let me know that I reblogged from someone who did that. instead, you used it at the end of a post that did not have any reason for such a thing to be addressed on.
😭😭😭 you can't fucking read, this is gruelling
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
so in that exact response I made it clear that your beef with someone else has NOTHING to do with me. I don't have a single obligation to speak on it because it quite literally does not have anything to do with me. Again. Someone else saying something to you has nothing to do with me. I didn't say it. I don't care about your conversations with other people. There was zero reason to put it on my post when it has nothing to do with me.
I outlined your hypocrisy here:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 1 · It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can
I'll also copy/paste the tl;dr:
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
You reblogging from someone who told someone to kill themselves and then doubling down on it when being called out is giving more support to real-world harm than any of my opinions about the fictional vampire Marius de Romanus.
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I love winning arguments
Actually, no. I do not like winning arguments by being ignored because there's no valid argument to make against the argument I made. That shits cowardice.
You didn't win an argument.
I raised the comment to highlight your own hypocrisy, which is exactly what it did. You are trying to claim that liking and/or discussing a fictional character somehow equates to tangible harm in real life, which it absolutely does not.
You know what actually can? Telling people to kill themselves.
It's not cowardice for me to step away from you because I don't consider the opinions of those who believe that behavior to be acceptable in any scenario to be worth my time.
You know what is cowardice, though? Not condemning someone telling a real life person to kill themselves and proceeding to double-down on it and try to justify their position.
And you know what's hilarious? That it proves every point I was making about you.
but it had nothing to do with what we were talking about. I don't know the person you were talking to. you didn't highlight any hypocrisy at all. again, the way you go about things baffles the ever loving fuck out of me.
It literally did have something to do with the conversation and you lack critical thinking skills to the point that you can't even understand that fact when I'm spelling it out for you.
Your claim: defending/liking/whatever Marius means putting harm into the world and being a pedophile defender. (Emphasis on the fact that you don't like people who state the fact that Amadeo was into it, which he was and is not debatable.)
from a comment of yours
My point: you reblogged from someone who told me to kill themselves, then doubled down on not saying that was a wrong thing to do and went so far as to try and validate them. Telling someone to kill themselves is, regardless of context and circumstance (barring a blatant supremacist or Nazi or the like), a wrong thing to do and actually can have tangible consequences in a way that what you're claiming liking/defending Marius does not.
So, yes, I am highlighting your hypocrisy in that you will condemn people who like/defend a fictional character but will not condemn a real life person who told another living breathing human being to kill themselves multiple times and violently.
That is hypocrisy.
You still haven't said that was a wrong thing for someone to do. You literally just doubled down wanting to look like you "won an argument" and tried to justify that the person who told me to kill myself had a [valid] reason to do so.
In case it wasn't clear enough: you are being a hypocrite in not condemning a real person for real actions that can have real tragic effects in real life while simultaneously being comfortable with and are continuing to condemn real people who discuss a fictional character whose actions have no effect on reality.
guys.. we won. they blocked me without replying to my breakdown of my points. that is as close to conceding as some people get when they can't face that they don't have a leg left to stand on.
Do you have any response to being ok with someone telling me to kill myself?
