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Is it possible that Pierro's real name is Eftirvit?
This character was mentioned in a dialogue between Rhinedottir and Hroptatyr as "Vice-President Vit". Rhin says that Vit envied Hroptatyr because he himself missed the opportunity to become president of the Universitas Magistrorum. In the same dialogue, Hroptatyr notes that if king Irmin hadn't been such an extremist, he wouldn't have gotten his position, which should mean that Hroptatyr nominally agreed with the king's views.
Pierro was a royal mage around the same time as the sinners. As revealed in the artifact, pale flame mocking mask, he failed to win the king's favor. Also, as far as we know, his symbol in the Fatui is a weeping mask, while Hroptatyr was depicted as a laughing mask. Overall, it creates the impression that there is some kind of rivalry between them? They are somewhat… opposite? …Or did I just imagine something that isn't there? :D
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I think for me what makes the whole DLC schtick of Miq the kind/promised retcon so goddamn hard for me to accept, is the fact that so much of the base game regarding Miquella, alluded to him being the Tarnished's benefactor....
Just like:
Torrent being the most obvious, even in the DLC there is nothing discrediting Miquella from being Torrents former master, and so it is super interesting that Torrent would choose the Tarnished as their newest rider.
And then that leads into the whole Ranni interaction, where she gives us the Spirit Calling Bell and especially the three Wolf spirits(remember the statue at farum azula? I do fromsoft doesn't) specifically entrusted to her to give to the Tarnished from Torrents former master i.e Miquella!!!!
The ring which summons Torrent is specifically referred to as a "delicate goldwork ring" and Miquella was regarded as a craftsman, and made the unalloyed needles as well as Malenias prosthetics/weaponry
And if we defeat the Grafted Scion, the only thing we can do is be lured by the Nascent Butterfly's to a faulty cliff which starts the game and leads us to meeting Torrent
The Bewitching Branch being the only Demigod sanctioned item in the character creation segment....... (like fr miq being the very FIRST demigod you learn about from the character creation makes me crazy)
I just.... I'm just.... I feel like I'm clinging to nothing but strings with these connections in the base game... and then the whole DLC with the Miq/incest plot making me feel like I'm being gaslit into believing that these plot points don't even exist....
But fuck they DO EXIST. Like Gowrys entire quest with Millicent and the needle has him saying, "Oh yes, whoever crafted this needle had a clear grasp on the very essence of life," and just.... I hate it because it's there.
It is there.
IT'S THERE
I cannot for the life of me make a new character and play the game fucking raw without Ranni and Gowry and even freaking Melina being like "Here's a blatant reference to Miquella and the connection to him" only for the DLC to be like "Yeah actually none of that means anything"
And just... it's so incredibly frustrating 😞
I can literally see the BONES of what Miquella was originally supposed to be. It's there. It's all THERE. Miquella's love for Malenia, his wish to cure her. Miquella's adoration for Godwyn, and his wish to grant him a true death. And Miquella's Abundance and just... everything he was supposed to be....
(like fr lmaoooo even in the online messaging system the allusion to Miquellas Abundance IS FREAKIN THERE 😭)
Miquella's entire connection to Torrent and so too his connection to Ranni, the fact that she specifically reserved the Bell and Wolf Spirits for whoever Torrent chooses as his next master, the fact that Ranni KNOWS Torrent.... And for it to go nowhere in the dlc....
BUT AT THE SAME TIME!!!!
The overwhelming evidence of Miquella being Torrents former master and the DLC doing nothing to disprove that, makes Miquella wanting to kill us so goddamn jarring.
It's just... Okay seriously think about it: Torrent CHOSE us specifically, then Ranni has stuff to give us from Torrents former master, and then everything in the base game and even the DLC points to Miquella being associated with Torrent.... And yet now Miq wants to kill us even tho he asked Ranni to give us the Summoning Bell and Torrent choosing us as his next master....
AND I JUST H U N H????
and dont even get me started on Godwyn 😒 absolutely hilarious how the only other characters connected to him are either Miq, Ranni or Marika, (ranni killing him, marika shattering the elden ring bc of his death, and miq wanting to revive him) and then the entire dlc is like godwyn who???? here's some cheap lore despite fortissax being awesome where his personal guard doesn't care about their lord but only his cursed corpse 😒
I'm sorry but I seriously can never accept the DLCs writing for Miquella even when I try and do mental gymnastics for it to make any kind of sense... Because at the end of the day, with all the base game lore regarding Miquella and everything the DLC tried to put down, it will ultimately never make any sense to me.
Finished Song of the Welkin Moon, Act II yesterday and one thing I haven't seen people talking about yet is how the shape on Rerir's eyes resemble how we first see Vedrfolnir's "body" in Caribert?
Khaenri'ahns have their signature star-shaped pupils, but I can clearly see a crystal in chains too - the slit pupil being the crystal, whilst the highlights (and what supposedly were the four-pointed star ends) are stretched out in a similar fashion to the chains.
Which is, to put it lightly, very interesting. Rhinedottir's eyes were different, but since she fused with Naberius, this might be why. Now I wonder about the other Sinners...
After completing 6.1, I'd like to discuss the Sinners a bit.
I really hope (given the designs of Rhinedottir and Rerir) that the designs of the others will be just as cool (I still remember the human forms of two adepti introduced in one of the Lantern Rites…)
And, speaking of the Sinners' appearances… could someone explain it to me? Surtalogi is often (almost always) depicted as a Dark Shadow (the second phase of All-Devouring Narwhal). Where does that come from? Is it because Narwhal is Surtalogi's pet?
By the way, it's interesting that we already have a second character (Rerir) who has a confirmed love interest, and who most likely (!) won't be playable. The first was Signora, who was really wanted to be playable, but it didn't work out 🤔
…Although, if you think about it, there's reason to doubt that the Sinners won't be playable. There are only five types of weapons in the game, but you know who the other five are? Yeah, the Sinners. As we found out, Rerir's weapon is a polearm, but Vedrfolnir is also the wielder of the catalyst Gleipnir (as we know from the description). Judging by the appearance of the chess piece and the appearance of the Dark Shadow, we can assume Surtalogi uses a claymore. A less plausible assumption for Rhinedottir is a sword. Albedo and Durin, her children, one of whom studied directly with her, wield a sword. Well, what's left is Hroptatyr and a bow, no comment here.
I read the description for the new relic set (Self-Enshrouded Recluse), and it says, and I quote, "Long after that parting, Zandar had vanished in the distant future. In his place, different "Thought Fragments" would travel to various space-time across the cosmos, each taking different forms and never communicating with each other" Does this mean that Zandar's different bodies possess different parts of his personality? Perhaps some of them are even less… mad. And that, in turn, could mean that one or more of his incarnations will be more… consistent with the playable version character😏😏
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I NEED someone who can write for Riddle and someone(reader?) exploit loopholes in the rules, like: the rules say to wear a tie, but they don't say where? This person will show up with a properly tied tie… but it will be on their leg😆
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