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Seesaw is pretty cute when you really think about it and I love the theory it could be about the members relationship/band (if they should disband or not, given it was written around the same time they were struggling a lot). It's just a really complex song, but honestly the remix is crazy, it seems like he was really suffering a lot about a breakup lol.

I love to analyse things, seeing patterns and making connections, as if I was solving a puzzle/riddle, so all the ambigous lines in their songs is like a field trip to me. I guess I just need to find another hobby for now loool.

It’s easy to feel like “if we just look closely enough, we’ll find the answer,” but I think there are some things that will remain a mystery no matter how much we analyze it.

The second thing is what makes the least sense to me, during Muse promotions Jimin made it quite clear he didn`t have a partner and was dealing with the weird loneliness the idol life can bring, he even mentioned to Joon during Mini Moni Music how he couldn`t remember the last time he had a crush. Once again, he could be lying, but Jimin has said time and time again how he doens`t enjoy doing that to Army.

P.S. I truly believe Seesaw is connected to SDL, People, People Pt. 2 and Come over, cause they talk about similar topics and it would all make sense if it were about the same relationship and A LOT of stuff makes me think it`s Jimin, but some just don`t make sense.

P.S. 2 Yoongi released a I NEED U x Seesaw remix on soundcloud around the same time the album was released and if you listen to it half of it is Jimin`s voice, I geniunely think it would be extremely sadistic to do this if it were someone you just broke up with.

Anyways, I`ve been wreaking my brain to see if I can find an answer to this, cause I`m extremely hyperfocused on them, so if you could find an explanation, I would be very happy.

Hi, @paradoxociclo-blog! Sounds like you’re really going through it! 😉 Trying to sift through years worth of lyrics, moments, interviews, etc can get really confusing and can make it feel like our minds are going in circles. A couple of things I’ll say:

1. While I think it’s important to look at lyrics, I also think we have to remember how complicated that can get. If you look at the writing credits for most of the group and solo songs, you’ll see there are usually at least 3-4 people involved. And that means we aren’t always getting one person’s perspective/experience in the lyrics. We are listening to a song that conveys the artist’s story but that has also been through multiple variations/edits/etc on its way from rough draft to finished song.

For me, when it comes to yoonmin, the most important type of evidence doesn’t come from their lyrics but from their words about and toward each other and their actions. Lyrics can be difficult to interpret. But Jimin saying “I went to his house and saw him making cute faces at the dog,” and Yoongi saying “we played guitar and sang [at Jimin’s house]” carry more significance to me when it comes to understanding their dynamic because they are much more straight-forward and there is less room for ambiguity.

2. In terms of Seesaw specifically: I spent a lot of time looking at Seesaw and trying to figure it out, but didn’t come to any solid conclusion. I think it could be about a romantic relationship, or it could be about competitiveness toward someone else he was close to (even platonically), or it could even be about his own mental health. Also, I disagree about the “cruelty” you seem to be getting from the lyrics. I don’t hear anger or betrayal. I hear frustration but also longing. Think about how softly yoongi sings the closing lines. That is not anger or bitterness, in my opinion. He seems to still have lingering feelings for this person but is resigned to the fact that they struggle to stay balanced. And he feels like they have no choice but to end things…unless they can get out of the cycle they are in. (Just my opinion!)

3. I wrote a lot about Muse around the time it was released, so I won’t repeat myself, but I think we need to remember that the album was described as conceptual, unlike Face which clearly was very personal and had a more linear timeline in terms of describing Jimin’s feelings during the pandemic. Muse is much more ambiguous in terms of what is “real” and what isn’t. Even Who itself calls into question the more romantic songs that happen earlier in the track list. Personally, I would be very hesitant to draw definite conclusions about Jimin’s personal life based on this album.

Those two are genuinely just two cats that walk their own paths 😭

Hi, anon! Here’s how I see it:

When in doubt, I listen to the guys’ words. If I had to prioritize “evidence,” the guys’ words and actions are always at the top of the list.

https://www.tumblr.com/5and3nevermind/818738178758524928/okay-this-might-sound-extremely-stupid-but-what

I can’t find a clip at the moment but maybe someone with more patience will find it for us! So, it was an award show from 2016 or 2017. The guys won and were all in a circle for a group hug, and Jimin leaned in toward Yoongi. You can’t see their faces but he got very close to him. Did he give him a kiss? Did they put their foreheads together? Did he just lean in close?

I’m not going to post your ask since you mentioned a specific account, but yeah there is no shortage of annoying people on twitter.

There are times when I’m purposefully vague, but it’s almost always because I have an opinion about something but don’t want it to be searchable and/or don’t want to infringe on the guys’ privacy (living arrangements is a great example). So, I might be vague in those cases, but I’m always happy to provide additional hints if that helps or answer DMs.

Meanwhile, the person you mentioned is being vague about their own theory, and that’s different. Either just say it or keep it to yourself? Better than ignoring 50 people who are saying “wait what? what’s going on?!”

And I have a cousin that is allergic, but owns a cat.

I agree.

Hi, anon! I miss it too, but I also understand why things have changed. It seems like a simple enough premise—have the guys do something fun, film it, edit it, done—but I’m sure it’s a pretty substantial investment of time, money, and creativity.

I mean, every activity has to be:

- cost effective

- realistic/safe

- fun to watch

- editable (in other words, it has to be something where they can edit for time constraints without it being confusing to watch)

- no more than a 1-2 day time commitment

Idk. I find it highly unlikely and beyond delusional to think he would do such a thing in public space 🧍🏽‍♀️

I don’t think we have a clear enough view to say definitively one way or the other. I agree that if that was what happened, it would be a risk. Yet…Jimin kissed Hobi on the neck twice during a live, and some of us think he might have kissed Yoongi on the side of his face during Dynamite filming.