Belle & Wise = Sunbringer & Joyous?
are they clones of the two? and were joyous and sunbringer actually siblings?
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so there's this poster hidden behind a wall in the HIA. it says "pathfinder, pioneer, pilot". representing the role of an investigator/proxy. of a trailblazer, like Joyous. like Phaethon. it looks like the perfect in-between of belle and wise, imo. perhaps bc it was made in Joyous's image, but the HIA is open to all genders, so they made a more ambiguous design. (and bc, as the player, you can see Either proxy in it.)
the circles around it intrigue me. they could be like a sun and a moon, sun and a hollow, or even represent the moon in zzz, which is black of the left side and white on the right.
now, i do think that wise could legitimately be a clone or descendant of Joyous. for numerous seasons, and obv they just look alike.
so what about belle? is she another clone of joyous, but female? or perhaps her and wise are both just regular siblings descended from him? However. belle does have similarities to lady Sunbringer, and it's possible that Joyous was an older brother of someone... possibly Sunbringer herself.
see, he's described as "the one who went through the divine maze", the first person to successfully navigate out of a hollow. specifically Papago Hollow, with the help of the first bangboo prototype, made by Sunbringer. (this is also why they're called "carrots", btw. bc bangboo are inspired by rabbits, and what do rabbits eat?)
so, anyways. "Papago" is an outdated name given by the spanish to the Tohono O'odham people. in their mythology (according to yk basic googling), the creator god is I'itoi, and this name means "Elder Brother". he is most commonly known as the "Man in the Maze".
and keep in mind that belle's hair color is also originally the same as wise's, due to her eyebrows. (they don't match her blue hair.) here's a mod showing her w/silver hair, compared to Sunbringer:
then we have this. the red line is Belle, and the blue is Wise. belle mentioning the sun rising from the hollow, in stark contrast to wise... this could be significant. see, lady Sunbringer is called that because she "defeated the hivelord hollow in the sky", essentially bringing the sun back to Eridu.
then there's this cutscene from the prologue. wise and belle are shown differently here, with what looks like the HIA symbol behind wise's head, with belle off to the side as the other sibling. the cutscene is the same regardless of who you choose, btw. only wise is shown like this.
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...so maybe they're clones of each of the two, or descendants of joyous, who was actually sunbringer's older brother.
we have no information about belle & wise's family or origins— they mention each other being the only family they have, and a child's drawing in one of their rooms shows just the two of them with a house behind them. no parents, not even carole, who perhaps would've taken them in after that was drawn.
also: the mayor (mayflower family) and void hunters were all connected. this includes helios academy, which was founded by the void hunter Arche. in the present day, the mayor was also a dear friend of carole arna's.
if you were to give humanity a fighting chance at navigating through the hollows, how better to accomplish this than with the progenies of actual void hunters? whether this is due to them happening to be their descendants and being found by carole/the academy, or due to some place cloning the void hunters.
i actually think the cloning could've been done by the white star institute, if the siblings really were just orphans found and taken in by the academy. unless the academy itself made them, and carole decided to raise them.
