Hi; I don't know if you're still following the word-stream stuff, but the app is back online on the app store as "booktok - books and podcasts". The reviews marking it as having AI scraped data are still on the page itself, even though the name has changed, and duckduckgo still directs to their page if you look up "word-stream audiobooks"-- although if I don't know how long that will last. The website is seemingly gone, but the app still presumably has access to all the stolen works in the database.
Best regards,
-someone else whose fics were stolen
yup
word-stream is back
it just calls itselfāin an obvious attempt to profit from the TikTok upheavalāBookTok, now. and itās not just the app, either: the whole website is back online, same as it was just before Cliff Weitzman took it down.
(in case you missed it, here are the original story & the update.)
fortunately (so far) the fanfiction category hasn't been re-added, but if you go to the store page for the app you can see that itās still using 'fan-created universes' as advertising.
Weitzman didn't register the app under his own name this time, but through something called 'Oak Prime Inc'. hilariously, however, the email address listed in BookTok's privacy policy still refers to word-stream.com, so if Cliff was trying to scrub the connection between Speechify and his BookTok app, he didn't do a very thorough job.
here's the thing (and i'm about to put this up in a separate, more easily digestible post): if you take a look at the terms & conditions of Cliff's other platform, Speechify, it claims a truly comprehensive license to use the works uploaded to that platform in any way Cliff sees fit, including publishing and monetizing it elsewhere. and i keep seeing posts on Reddit and Bluesky from both readers and writers, happily using the Speechify app to read fanfic, advanced reader copies and their own yet-to-be-published work to them.
this is a BAD IDEA. Cliff has already proven that he will take work authored by others without their permission and redistribute it wholesale if he thinks it might make him money.
Cliff is the financial beneficiary of both Speechify and word-stream/booktokapp. it seems pretty obvious to me that he's trying to claim, via Speechify's terms & conditions, that every work uploaded to Speechify is his to do with whatever he pleases, which naturally includes moving them to this other platform so he can charge people for two subscriptions instead of just the one.
thank you so much for keeping an eye on this, anon, and for reaching out!! like i said, another post will go up today about the above, but i'm going to ask you all to help ensure that my posts & my name aren't the only ones giving voice to this message. when i tried to approach people about this issue on social media, often theācompletely justified!āresponse was 'why should I take your word for it?' and Wikipedia only allowed the mention of Weitzman's copyright infringement to remain on his page when 'The Endless Appetite for Fanfiction' was listed as a source.
it can't just be me. DONāT take my word for it. do your own research (i would love to be proven wrong about this!), talk to your friends, engage with posts on social media similar to the ones i mentioned above (those are just some examples, donāt pile on to the OPs!) and make sure people know what they're jeopardizing. help me protect authors from money-grubbing shitheads like this one.
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hey i know we all have fires to put out all over but if youāre feeling restless and angry and unsure how you can make a difference today here is a small bit of good news that YOU helped make possible:
that is word-stream, and itās (finally) down, and hopefully all of the stolen copies of our work have gone away with it.
i paid a visit to our man Cliffāwho of course has never acknowledged his theft of thousands of pieces of both original fiction and fanfictionāand saw that he has made time to upload āinspirationalā messages to YouTube stroking his own ego while elaborating on, i kid you not,
HOW HE MAKES FRIENDS (IN 2025!) and
HOW TO NOT FEEL IMPOSTER SYNDROME.
i could not make this up if i tried, and iāve been told i can be pretty funny when i try! anyway, if you decide to give olā Cliff the privilege of your clicks, do remember to be extra generous and leave a comment reminding him of all the friends he's made on tumblr and how we all suffer from imposter syndrome sometimes even when we DIDN'T steal other peopleās work and then stuck our fingers in our ears and sang ālalalalala i canāt heeeeear yooooouā when they called us out. i canāt imagine how hard his life must be!
Hello! So sorry to bother, but have you had any updates on the Word-Stream/Speechify situation?
Just one: like I posted on Xitter and Bluesky last night, as of yesterday afternoon, the links to individual works as they were listed on WordStream are gone from both Google and Bing. Hurray, right? Surely weāre all sick of this whole debacle and thereās far more important things to worry about. If all is well that ends well, surely thereās no need to still be angry.
Well, I am. Hereās why:
When I checked on Wednesday, the links to my own work on WordStream were still listed. So rather than it taking a week after Cliff Weitzman first hid the fanwork from view, it took a little over a week from the moment he first promised privately that they would be deleted. Which, fine. Perhaps Cliff didnāt really know what he was talking about when he gave that timeframe. Or maybe he told a little white lie to create the impression that he always intended to do the right thing. It seems more likely to me, though, that Cliff still believedāeven after the backlash he receivedāthat he would get away with honoring only individual takedown requests. Or worse, that he needed just a little bit more time with the stolen material to figure out an alternative way to profit off itāpreferably without us noticing, this time.
But who knows? I certainly donāt! All we can do is speculate, because publicly, Cliff Weitzman has remained completely silent on his copyright infringements. All we got was the initial justifications he and his sockpuppet accounts used in comments on the original Reddit and Tumblr posts. After those were so understandably ill-received, Cliff only ever communicated with a few individual authors who contacted him directly and repeatedly, blocking people who addressed the issue on Twitter and quietly distancing himself from WordStream by deleting a blog heād posted to Speechify.com dated December 20thāwhere Cliff promoted WordStreamās platform specifically to fanfiction readers. (See my enormous timeline post for details and screenshots of said posts before they were taken down.)
And this is why Iām still angry: As long as Cliff Weitzman faces no real consequences for his actions, he wonāt see a need to own up to his mistake; and as long as heās able to delay taking responsibility, this isnāt over. This didnāt end well.
After all, wasnāt this the next-best scenario for Cliff, second only to him turning WordStream into a (for him) effortless, infinite money-making machine? He took something we provided for free and fed it to AI so he could more easily put it behind a paywall; we found out and protested; Cliff quietly erased all evidence of his crime; and we wentāalmost equally quietlyāaway.
I want to make sure you know that I continue to be genuinely amazed and intensely grateful for how quickly the news about WordStreamās copyright infringement was sharedāand continues to be sharedāthroughout fandom, on tumblr in particular. If it hadnāt been for our collective outcry here and on Reddit, WordStream would very likely still be up in its original form, and Weitzman would be reaping the benefits (those subscription prices were steep) today.
But itās been frustrating to see that, with the exception of mentions in articles on Substack and Fansplaining (the latter of which is a particularly awesome and thorough read on fandomās decontextualization) and a Fanlore listing, our outrage never really spilled out beyond the safely insulated, out-of-the-way spaces that are tumblr, a handful of subreddits and bluesky. And I believe thatāunfortunatelyāwe are collectively responsible for that part, as well.
Most of us seemed content to only spread the word by circulating the same two posts on tumblr. (Have we all given up completely on every other social media platform? Am I the only remaining straggler?) And soon after Cliff Weitzman hid WordStreamās fanfiction category from view, our interest in the issue took a sharp dive even there. Are we genuinely deceived into believing the issue has been fully resolved? Do we truly fail to realize that Weitzmanās refusal to admit that what he did was wrong left the door wide open for the next greed-driven tech bro to wander through? Or is the true naivety in thinking that, as a community, we can keep this kind of attack on fandom from happening again? Has our disillusionment already gotten that bad?
However the situation spins out from here, Cliffās actions will set a precedent. If we fail to show Cliff and his ilk that attempts to profit off fandomās unpaid labor have consequences, their tech companies will keep trying until something eventually sticks. They might be a little smarter about it next time; obscure their sources a bit better, maybe leave the titles and the authorsā names off. Or maybe theyāll go a bolder route: maybe next time they cross the line theyāll do it boldly enough for IP holders to take notice and stop tolerating fanwork entirely.
Doesnāt that make you angry, too?
Thereās this whole other mess of thoughts I would love to be able to untangle about how commercial influence is contributing to the steady erosion of fandomās foundations, but Iām tired, and other people have said it all much more eloquently than I ever could. Seriously, go read that article on Fansplaining. Or listen to the podcast version of it. Better yet, as long as youāre wearing your noise-canceling headphones, go listen to a podfic of one of your favorite fandomsā works, and enjoy the collaborative joy and creativity of the people who Cliff Weitzman refuses to believe exist. (In one of Speechifyās other blogs, Cliff claims there are only 272 podfics on AO3. Would you like to run that ChatGPT prompt again, Cliff?). Honestly, much like Cliff Weitzmanās infuriating denial of the fact that fandom fucking has this covered, thank you very much, thereās so. Many. More. Things for us to talk about. Thereās the connotations of WordStreamās dubious āuploadā button, for instance, or the fact that the app scraped (and in some cases, allegedly, still lists) copyright-protected original fiction as well, or WordStreamās complete lack of contact information, which is illegal for an internationally operating app. And oh! Has anyone reported more thoroughly on Cliffās appās options to āsimplifyā or āmodernizeā uploaded works, orāmy own very favorite abominationāto translate them into something Cliff calls āGen-Z Languageā? Much like his atrocious AI book covers, it would be hilarious, if it didnāt make steam come out of my ears.
Anyway, there it is. I highly recommend you do all of that. And then, if you arenāt familiar with it already, go do some research re: fair use and your rights as the copyright owner of your works. A good number of people commenting on this controversy expressed stunned surprise or fearful hesitation about claiming any sort of ownership of their fanfiction. The more informed we are about our rights, the more willing we will be to defend them.
Please donāt stop writing or sharing your work. If you canāt bring yourself to work on your WIPs today (trust me, I get it), post about this situation instead. Tweets, skeets, whateverthefucksāabout WordStreamās theft, about how this reflects on Speechifyās already shady business practices, about how Cliffās actions and justifications have personally affected you. Youāre welcome to share or copy my posts on these platforms, but since Cliff already blocked me, I very much prefer you post your own. If you do, call Cliff Weitzman by his full name and tag or include both WordStream and Speechify to ensure Weitzman will recognize he has both a personal as well as a professional stake in handling the situation with integrity. Leave your concerns in reviews on the Speechify app. (We werenāt provided with a more appropriate place to put them, after all!) Consider calling for a Speechify boycott until Cliff accepts accountability for his actions.
Do avoid making exaggerated claims, and donāt call for physical retaliation against Cliffās person or his property. We donāt want to give him or Speechify even the weakest of grounds to claim defamation or threats of violence. Focus on the facts: theyāre incriminating enough by themselves. Show Cliff that weāre determined to keep bringing up his companyās wrongdoings in public spaces until he demonstrates that he understands why taking these freely shared fanworks and monetizing them was wrong, and takes steps to ensure it wonāt happen again.
One last thingāand this is really more of a general reminderāplease stop suggesting I handle this situation for you. People have come to me asking for action items. The resulting flashbacks to my days as an office assistant were extremely upsetting. In all seriousness, casting me as some sort of coordinator or driving force behind this backlash actively hurts the cause. Not only does it downplay fandomās collective efforts, it also makes our message extremely vulnerable. It would be all too easy for Cliff to silence one singular source. Wikipedia will not maintain mentions of this controversy as long as it leads only to Easter Kingstonās attempt to summarize what happened as it was happening. You only know my name because I stumbled upon WordStreamās theft and decided to get my friends involved. I am not more knowledgeable, more skilled or more angrily invested in this issue than you are (or can, or should, be). I draw pictures and I write stories and I worry about the shift Iām seeing in fandom after having been on this ride for even a few pre-livejournal rounds.
Iām not going to stop doing any of those things. But I am going to allow myself to step away for a bit, make my wife dinner, and catch up on our shows.
Posting this link here because the original post isn't rebloggable, but my fic-writing friends might want to keep an eye on the situation with word-stream.com, which allegedly has been reposting people's works without their consent. The CEO promises he'll honor all "valid" take-down notices.
THANK YOU for the summary and timeline and all you have done to rally fandom to fight off this Wordstream bullshit!
Is there anything non-writers (and also non-americans) can do to help right now?
Hello and thank you for asking and yes, absolutely!!! I may have accidentally gotten this particular piece of momentum going, but the amount of attention word-streamās shameless theft got online is what ultimately led to the CEO at least temporarily hiding the works from view. I am just one person with a limited amount of resources and Iām a little worried that, now that people no longer see their fanworks listed, the attention might die down, and Cliff Weitzmanās willingness to cut it the fuck out will fade right along with it. Itās pretty obvious that Weitzman himself is counting on that happening.
The work fandom did in such a short amount of time is fantastic, but right now Iām mostly seeing a lot of ācould youā and ādo you think you willā¦ā and āsomeone shouldā¦ā and āwhy hasnāt anyoneā¦ā, and I would like to extend a collective āWhy not you?ā
Cliff Weitzman has now blocked me on the-platform-formerly-known-as-Twitter, as itās likely the place he feels he has the most to lose reputation-wise. I would love it if, specifically on that platform (and possibly his Instagram, as well), we simply didnāt allow him to pretend nothing happened because our works are still on word-streamās servers. It would be great if we could work together to keep up the pressure until Weitzman removes the stolen work entirely and/or comes out with some kind of genuine āmy bad, i wonāt do it againā.
Iām staying on the lookout for further fuckery, but I really hope you all will, too!
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Hi! I just wanted to say thank you so much for shedding light on wordstream! I'm so glad they took down the fic they stole. I have a question for a similar situation. I recently found a tumblr mirror site, Tumbex dot com, and found my fic/fanart blog there. The whole thing is very obviously a site that scrapes tumblr, but IDK if it's monetized. Doing a whois search shows a french company as its registrar, and I'm not familiar with EU regulations. Do you think there's anything that can be done about this?
Hi! I appreciate you saying that, though I would like to extend that thank you to everyone involved in fandom who took any sort of action, includingābut not limited toādoing their own research and sharing their findings, circulating the original posts, contacting Weitzman through the email he provided, complaining about his infringement to Cloudflare, GoDaddy and professional partners like Brandon Sanderson, and otherwise spreading the word on social media platforms.
In that same vein, Iād like to invite you to do the same re: Tumbex, or any website like it that you see hosting your work without your consent. A quick search brings up several Reddit threads about the topic as well as a listing on Tumblr Help addressing Tumbex specifically. Iām just a fandom creative like yourself, who accidentally stumbled upon some boogerās horribly misguided attempt to cash in on mine & other authorsā work. Iām not a full-time fandom advocate, and my knowledge & resources are unfortunately limited.
I wish you the best of luck and happy holidays to you & yours!
I am on my knees begging you to reblog this post and to stop reblogging the original ones I sent out yesterday. This is the complete account with all the most recent info; the other one is just sending people down senselessly panicked avenues that no longer lead anywhere.
IN SHORT
Cliff Weitzman, CEO of Speechify and (aspiring?) voice actor, used AI to scrape thousands of popular, finished works off AO3 to list them on his own for-profit website and in his attached app. He did this without getting any kind of permission from the authors of said work or informing AO3. Obviously.
When fandom at large was made aware of his theft and started pushing back, Weitzman issued a non-apology on the original social media postsāusingĀ
his dyslexia;Ā
his intent to implement a tip-system for the plagiarized authors; andĀ
a sudden willingness to take down the work of every author who saw my original social media posts and emailed him individually with a āvalidā claim,
as reasons we should allow him to continue monetizing fanwork for his own financial gain.
When we less-than-kindly refused, he took down his āapologiesā as well as his website (allegedlyāitās possible that our complaints to his web host, the deluge of emails he received or the unanticipated traffic brought it down, since there wasnāt any sort of official statement made about it), and when it came back up several hours later, all of the work formerly listed in the fan fiction category was no longer there.Ā
THE TAKEAWAYS
1. Cliff Weitzman (aka Ofek Weitzman) is a scumbag with no qualms about taking fanwork without permission, feeding it to AI and monetizing it for his own financial gain;Ā
2. Fandom can really get things done when it wants to, andĀ
3. Our fanworks appear to be hidden, but theyāre NOT DELETED from Weitzmanās servers, and independently published, original works are still listed without the authors' permission. We need to hold this man responsible for his theft, keep an eye on both his current and future endeavors, and take action immediately when he crosses the line again.Ā
THE TIMELINE, THE DETAILS, THE SCREENSHOTS (behind the cut)
Sunday night, December 22nd 2024, I noticed an influx in visitors to my fic You & Me & Holiday Wine. When I searched the title online, hoping to find out where they came from, a new listing popped up (third one down, no less):
This listing is still up today, by the way, though now when you follow the link to word-stream, it justĀ brings you to the main site. (Also, to be clear, this was not the cause for the influx of traffic to my fic; word-stream did not link back to the original work anywhere.)
I followed the link to word-stream, where to my horror Y&M&HW was listed in its entiretyāthough, beyond the first half of the first chapter, behind a paywallāalong with a link promising to take meāthrough an app downloadable on the Apple Storeāto an AI-narrated audiobook version. When I searched word-stream itself for my ao3 handle I found both of my multi-chapter fics were listed this way:
Because the tags on my fics (which included genres* and characters, but never the original IPs**) werenāt working, I put āKara Danversā into the search bar and discovered that many more supercorp fics (Supergirl TV fandom, Kara Danvers/Lena Luthor pairing) were listed.
I went looking online for any mention of word-stream and AI plagiarism (the coversāas well as the ridiculously inflated number of reviews and ratingsāmade it immediately obvious that AI fuckery was involved), but found almost nothing: only one single Reddit post had been made, and it received (at that time) only a handful of upvotes and no advice.Ā
I decided to make a tumblr post to bring the supercorp fandom up to speed about the theft. I draw as well as write for fandom and Iāve only ever had to deal with art theftāwhich has a clear set of steps to take depending on where said art was repostedāand I was at a loss regarding where to start in this situation.
After my post went up I remembered Project Copy Knight, which is worth commending for the work theyāve done to get fic stolen from AO3 taken down from monetized AI 'audiobookā YouTube accounts. I reached out to @echoekhi, asking if theyād heard of this site and whether they could advise me on how to get our works taken down.
While waiting for a reply I looked into Copy Knightās methods and decided to contact OTWās legal department:
And then I went to bed.
By morning, tumblr friends @makicarn and @fazedlight as well as a very helpful tumblr anon had seen my post and done some very productive sleuthing:
@echoekhi had also gotten back to me, advising me, as expected, to contact the OTW. So I decided to sit tight until I got a response from them.
That response came only an hour or so later:Ā
Which was 100% understandable, but still disappointingāI doubted a handful of individual takedown requests would accomplish much, and I wasnāt eager to share my given name and personal information with Cliff Weitzman himself, which is unavoidable if you want to file a DMCA.
I decided to take it to Reddit, hoping it would gain traction in the wider fanfic community, considering so many fandoms were affected. My Reddit posts (with the updates at the bottom as they were emerging) can be found here and here.
A helpful Reddit user posted a guide on how users could go about filing a DMCA against word-stream here (to wobbly-at-best results)
A different helpful Reddit user signed up to access insight into word-streams pricing. Comment is here.
Smells unbelievably scammy, right? In addition to those audacious pricesāthough in all fairness any amount of money would be audacious considering every work listed is accessible elsewhere for freeāmy dyscalculia is screaming silently at the sight of that completely unnecessary amount of intentionally obscured numbers.
Speaking of which! As soon as the post on r/AO3āand, as a result, my original tumblr postābegan taking off properly, sometime around 1 pm, jumpscare! A notification that a tumblr account named @cliffweitzman had commented on my post, and I got a bit mad about the gist of his messageĀ :
Fortunately he caught plenty of flack in the comments from other users (truly you should check out the comment section, it is extremely gratifying and people are making tremendously good points), in response to which, of course, he first tried to both reiterate and renegotiate his point in a second, longer comment (which I didnāt screenshot in time so Iām sorry for the crappy notification email formatting):
which he then proceeded to also post to Reddit (this is another Reddit userās screenshot, I didnāt see it at all, the notifications were moving too fast for me to follow by then)
... where he got a roughly equal amount of righteously furious replies. (Check downthread, they're still there, all the way at the bottom.)
After which Cliff went ahead & deleted his messages altogether.Ā
Itās not entirely clear whether his account was suspended by Reddit soon after or whether he deleted it himself, but considering his tumblr account is still intact, I assume itās the former. He made a handful of sock puppet accounts to play around with for a while, both on Reddit and Tumblr, only one of which I have a screenshot of, but since they all say roughly the same thing, youāre not missing much:
And then word-stream started throwing a DNS error.
That lasted for a good number of hours, which was unfortunately right around the time that a lot of authors first heard about the situation and started asking me individually how to find out whether their work was stolen too. I do not have that information and I am unclear on the perimeters Weitzman set for his AI scraper, so this is all conjecture: it LOOKS like the fics that were lifted had three things in common:
They were completed works;
They had over several thousand kudos on AO3; and
They were written by authors who had actively posted or updated work over the past year.
If anyone knows more about these perimeters or has info that counters my observation, please let me know!
I finally thought to check/alert evil Twitter during this time, and found out that the news was doing the rounds there already. I made a quick thread summarizing everything that had happened just in case. You can find it here.
I went to Bluesky too, where fandom was doing all the heavy lifting for me already, so I just reskeeted, as you do, and carried on.
Sometime in the very early evening, word-stream went back upābut the fan fiction category was nowhere to be seen. Tentative joy and celebration!***
Thatās when several usersāthe ones who had signed up for accounts to gain intel and had accessed their own fics that wayāreported that their work could still be accessed through their history. Relevant Reddit post here.
Soooā
Weāre obviously not done. The fanwork that was stolen by Weitzman may be inaccessible through his website right now, but they arenāt actually gone. And the fact that Weitzman wasnāt willing to get rid of them altogether means he still has plans for them.Ā
This was my final edit on my Reddit post before turning off notifications, and it's pretty much where my head will be at for at least the foreseeable future:
Please feel free to add info in the comments, make your own posts, take whatever action you want to take to protect your work. I only beg youāseriously, Iām on my knees hereāto not give up like I saw a handful of people express the urge to do. Keep sharing your creative work and remain vigilant and stay active to make sure we can continue to do so freely. Visit your favorite fics, and the ones youāve kept in your āmarked for laterā lists but never made time to read, and leave kudos, leave comments, support your fandom creatives, celebrate podficcers and support AO3. We created this place and itās our responsibility to keep it alive and thriving for as long as we possibly can.
Also FUCK generative AI. It has NO place in fandom spaces.
THE 'SMALL' PRINT (some of it in all caps):
*Weitzman knew what he was doing and can NOT claim ignorance. One, itās pretty basic kindergarten stuff that you donāt steal some other kidās art project and present it as your own only to act surprised when they protest and then tell the victim that they should have told you sooner that they didnāt want their project stolen. And two, he was very careful never to list the IPs these fanworks were based on, so itās clear he was at least familiar enough with the legalities to not get himself in hot water with corporate lawyers. Fucking over fans, though, he figured he could get away with that.Ā
**A note about the AI that Weitzman used to steal our work: itās even greasier than it looks at first glance. Itās not just the method he used to lift works off AO3 and then regurgitate onto his own website and app. Looking beyond the untold horrors of his AI-generated cover āartā, in many cases these covers attempt to depict something from the fics in question that canāt be gleaned from their summaries alone. In addition, my fics (and I assume the others, as well) were listed with generated genres; tags that did not appear anywhere in or on my fic on AO3 and were sometimes scarily accurate and sometimes way off the mark. I remember You & Me & Holiday Wine had āfound familyā (100% correct, but not tagged by me as such) and I believe The Shape of Soup was listed as, among others, āenemies to friends to loversā and ālove triangleā (both wildly inaccurate). Even worse, not all the fic listed (as authors on Reddit pointed out) came with their original summaries at all. Often the entire summary was AI-generated. All of these things make it very clear that it was an all-encompassing scrapeānot only were our fics stolen, they were also fed word-for-word into the AI Weitzman used and then analyzed to suit Weitzmanās needs. This means our work was literally fed to this AI to basically do with whatever its other users want, including (one assumes) text generation.Ā
***Fan fiction appears to have been made (largely) inaccessible on word-stream at this time, but Iām hearing from several authors that their original, independently published work, which is listed at places like Kindle Unlimited, DOES still appear in word-streamās search engine. This obviously hurts writers, especially independent ones, who depend on these works for income and, as a rule, donāt have a huge budget or a legal team with oceans of time to fight these battles for them. If you consider yourself an author in the broader sense, beyond merely existing online as a fandom author, beyond concerns that your own work is immediately at risk, DO NOT STOP MAKING NOISE ABOUT THIS.
PLEASE check my later versions of this post via my main page to make sure you have the latest version of this post before you reblog. All the information Iāve been able to gather is in my reblogs below, and it's frustrating to see the old version getting passed around, sending people on wild goose chases.