FULL TRANSCRIPT OF ORIGINAL WILDCARD CALLOUT WITH NO ORIGINAL WRITING OTHER THAN THIS TITLE
Aspengenic:I've been given permission by the person that was involved to talk about this, and this is not Aspen related. (Aspen has nothing to do with this, but the person we are going to be talking about was someone that used to be in their server, which is how I started talking to them.)
I've has my DMs and ask box open for a looooong time so that anyone can come to me about any issues they have with Aspen primarily, but people wanted to come to me about the mods, too. As far as the mods go, as stated, they'd have to do something on the same level as Aspen-flavored shit, which none of them have, at least not in my opinion.
A particular person came to me about the mods, but I didn't have enough context about the messages to really say what is and wasn't right or wrong. However, this person, Wild Card System, had also claimed that the mods were also accusing them of being a pedophile/groomer.
I'd already been reached out to by someone else about this person, but I hadn't been given proof one way or another about it, so I, at first, said I didn't have an opinion really on it. A month later, they messaged me again about how they were invited to a server where members in the server told them to slit their wrists and stuff because of them being a pedophile.
And to be honest, if the allegations about them being a pedophile are true... then I wouldn't give a shit about that actually. Fuck pesos.
I asked for context about the messages they were sending with this minor, as they'd been accused of sexting with a minor. So they sent me the screenshots of some of the messages.
The messages proved to me that they are a groomer, at least in my eyes.
I have been given permission to share these messages by the person who went through this with Wild Card, but am keeping the other person (not Wild Card) in the screenshots sent to me anonymous, and for the most part, blocking out their messages.
This person was 17 at the time, Wild Card was 21, and regardless of the "age of consent" being 16 in their state for both parties, anyone under 18 is *still* a minor. There are people in our government who want to change the age of consent to be much, *much* younger, but they're still *children.* It does not make it ok.
Wild Card wanted to wait until this person was 18 before dating or doing anything, but Wild Card also did start talking about NSFW topics with them and "hypotheticals" of what it would be like to do adult things with them. That, in itself, is grooming behavior. That is sexting.
Wild Card also told me they often complimented the minor's appearance when the minor was feeling self conscious about themselves or just down. That's still grooming. They even go on to talk about how they "fucked someone who was "really, really fucking ugly and obese", which is not something you talk to a minor about.
[SCREENSHOT OF TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN WILD CARD/PANDORA AND ASPENGENIC]
[SCREENSHOT OF TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN THE MINOR AND WILD CARD/PANDORA]
Pandora:
Even if it's for one day it was just a nice thought is all.
Minor:
I also don't think I'm pretty enough to waste your time with that tbh I would be so embarassed if yo(...)
Pandora:
Yeah I know, I was just giving you a hypothetical
To say how much you not only matter but how much you are cared for
Sorry for the awkwardness
I just was thinking of how (MINOR'S ALTER REDACTED) wanted to go to the mall
[SCREENSHOT OF MINOR AND WILD CARD/PANDORA ENDS]
Pandora:
that's the first part, after that it deviates to higih rambling and venting
let me get the second part
[SCREENSHOT OF WILD CARD/PANDORA AND ASPENGENIC ENDS]
Aspengenic:
Wild Card also started venting to them about one of the mods, which is also a type of behavior that is considered grooming, regardless of whether or not Wild Card thought so. Being an adult and venting to a minor is not appropriate.
[SCREENSHOT OF MINOR AND WILD CARD/PANDORA]
Pandora:
Thehy say "you don't need emotes" and remove them as if they weren't babying [REDACTED SERVER MEMBER] For not getting hsis tupid posters
And oh oh calling me privileged???
Saying emotes are my biggest problem
Like I wanted to just say "go fucking die"
Acting like they know shit
Look at this fucking clown
(attachment: mod they were venting about Replying to Wild Card:I don't think I have any privilege
Mod:Being able to get a diagnosis, passing, not having emojis being one of the worst of your problems)
I fought my life to get where I am
She has a company to her name
She is inheriting it
Minor:
I thought you and [MOD] were friends
I'm confused
Wild Card/Pandora:
I'm not gonna be called privileged by a nepo baby
I'm her friend I'm just splitting
Because she touched my insecurities
Don't talk to her about this promise me
Minor:
I won't
Wild Card/Pandora:
Thank you
I just, she made me feel really insecure
Minor:
Ily
Wild Card/Pandora:
I love you too
But what are your thoughts?
Minor:
Can I ask a question abt earlier?
Wild Card/Pandora:
Ye
Minor:
I don't know what to think
That seemed out of character for [MOD]
Am I obese and ugly?- I don't think I had the correct takeaway for what you said-
Wild Card/Pandora:
You arent
What I tried to say is that I fucked someone obese and ugly so there is no possible universe where you can do anything to repulse me or be too lewd for me, cause I fucked way worse if that makes sense
[Screenshot Ends]
[Blue text on the side reads:
Text is hard to read, but blue asked in regards to the obese and ugly comment, if they are.
Wild Card said "What I tried to say is that I fucked someone obese and ugly, so there is no possible universe where you can do anything to repulse me or be too lewd for me cause I fucked way worse if that makes sense." ]
Aspengenic:
Wild Card continues to talk about sex topics with the minor. I am blocking out the minor's messages as they are a minor and regardless of whether or not they "talked sexual back," that is still on the fault of the adult for talking about adult things with a minor to begin with.
It is ***never*** the fault of the minor, period, end of story.
[SCREENSHOT OF PANDORA/WILD CARD AND MINOR]
Pandora:
Cause you were saying "you don't deserve to be burdened by having me" and I'm like "I've seen so much worse that there is no conceivable universe where you'd burden me"
[MINOR MESSAGE REDACTED]
Pandora:
It's ok to be a pillow princess
Also also, those aren't just kinks
Those are just normal consent things
[MINOR MESSAGE REDACTED]
Girl Fatima (Wild Card Alter) is into being a giantess that destroys cities and eats people
I sometimes mess with her by saying she is into genociding via digestion
Basically giantess vore
[MINOR MESSAGE REDACTED]
Nothing you like is two weird
That's noraml
*normal
[MINOR MESSAGE REDACTED]
Like if I'm fucking someone I'll be repeating "I love you" overwhelmed by pleasure and emotion
[MINOR MESSAGE REDACTED]
Fair enough
I like to fuck people
So like
To me is just a pleasure thing that doesn't have to be romantic
But it can be
[MINOR MESSAGE REDACTED]
[SCREENSHOT ENDS]
[SCREENSHOT OF WILD CARD/PANDORA AND ASPENGENIC]
Pandora:
trust me, i feel disgusting, even if nothing happened
the talk feels, wrong regardless
even if i didn't intend shit
even if i was like "i just want to make you feel less shit about yourself"
Aspengenic:uhh
[SCREENSHOT ENDS]
Aspengenic:
Apologies that it is really hard to read. I screenshotted the messages before blocking them after this conversation, and I didn't think to open the media sent to me to screenshot it in better quality. They deleted their blog so the messages are gone. These are my messages with them:
[Many screenshots of Aspengenic and Wild Card/Pandora]
Aspengenic:
yeah I'mma be fr champ, it's very groomy
Pandora:
i know.
i know how it sounds
and i fucking hate it
i never sexted her, but yeah, i did sounded like that
Aspengenic:
Youuu kind of did though, like that also does count as sexting
Pandora:
wouldnt sexting be erp?
Aspengenic:
Nno, it can be anything from ERP, photos, videos, even talking about sex acts or sex in general
Pandora:
I did asked someone to review the entire thing and they told me i'm just an idiot that sounds wrong, which, admittedly yeah i am an idiot, i was intoxicated and that doesn't justify shit
Aspengenic:
Sexting stands for sex texting, it's not just ERP
Pandora:
i definitely understand why it comes across the way it does though, and all i can say is i'm sorry, i dont care if there was nothing illegal done, i dont care about the legality, i just care that its a shitty thing high or not i.. feel fucking horrible about it
Aspengenic:
I mean, it's not me you should be apologizing to, really
Pandora:
Obviously yeah you are right about that too. In the end i feel like an idiot, i dont know if i deserve the death threats or the doxing i just. havent stopped self loathing this past month about it
i dont really know what to say
i wasnt.. trying to do anything with her, I'm just an idiot, it's why I put a minors DNI in my profile, i dont care if its a day before 18, i dont ever want to risk making a similar mistake
of course i feel there's worth mentioning i'm not, some 40 year old who should know better, im a 21 year old person who didnt had better words, and was too high
not that it justifies anything mind you
i didnt want things to come across that way
talking to someone from my country who is seeing the same screenshots, they somehow dont think much bad of it, and i dont get it, i was also told similar things when i was younger and, maybe its a cultural thing how it comes across, or translation based, i still feel shitty about it of course
I dont even know what to really say, because like... even if you didn't know better, you still did massively fuck up and still did sext with a minor. Like I know someone else who made a massive mistake when they were 19 and did ERP with a 15 year old. The person lived at home and had been sheltered their entire life and didn't think erotic RP with original characters was still considered Bad and Wrong. They learned that it was wrong and immediately stopped and ended all contact with the minor after realizing how bad they fucked up. Like I still do know the person and they still have episodes in my DMs about it and hate themselves for it, even when they didn't know any better when they were 19 because of their situation/home life/their own trauma/etc. But it still doesn't excuse it and they still do have to live with the guilt for the rest of their life and there's nothing i can do for them or really anyone but a professional can do for them.
Pandora:
yeah.. i fucked up and will have to keep the guilt until i die, and that is something i'm ok with. i deserve to feel guilt, i fucked up badly, i don't know if that justifies the doxing and death threats but like i just wish, and have been wishing it all blows over, i tried cutting contact, but they kept trying to reach me. and its just.. painful.
Aspengenic:
They'd never sent personal messages like that with the minor though, there were no emotional/romantic/sexual feelings for either of them towards eachother like there is/was between you and [MINOR]
Pandora:
yeah, i just, want people to stop doxing and sending threats to me, i want to burry this al behind me
Aspengenic:
It's not something you can really bury. It's something you need to take responsibility for and own up to
Pandora:
you are right.
Aspengenic:
Like even with the messages you sent, that can still really fuck up a child, which is what [MINOR] is. I don't think this is a thing of "I was set up", I think this is a thing of [MINOR] may have had feelings for you, you did this, and they feel like you took advantage of them and groomed them, which you did. Regardless of whether you believe it or not, you did.
Pandora:
at least i'm relieved i'm knowledgeable enough about laws to know that this wont cause me any trouble beyond the doxing attempts. i've.. been trying to own up to things but i dont even know at this point what to do
Aspengenic:
It's not about the laws, it's about morals?
Pandora:
yeah. i fucked up
morally yeah i fucked up, i'm just at least relieved that legally there's nothing that can happen to me
Aspengenic:
So then stop talking about the laws and you looking into the laws because it's not even about laws at this point???
Pandora:
it'd be, a lot more than i could handle
god i dont even know what to do at this point
Aspengenic:
I literally told you what to do
Pandora:
but how do i own up to things, i already blocked them and i intend to block whatever may come
[Screenshots end]
Aspengenic:
Now, listen. I'm all for people making stupid ass mistakes. Mistakes make us human. The person I mentioned that was 19 at the time and fucked up, they made a massive fucking mistake. They have taken accountability for it and they never tried to lie about it afterwards. They never tried to pretend it didn't happen or try and sweep it under the rug. They owned up to that shit and set things right. What really bothered me about this whole thing is how Wild Card seems more concerned with the fact that they could've gotten in legal trouble, and began Iying to someone else, saying that the minor "set them up". They were more concerned about possiblv going to jail or court than they were about how they potentially traumatized a child, at the very least did groom and sext them. Regardless of English not being their first language, that's no excuse. They spoke fluent English with me and this person in DMs, so they cannot use that as an excuse at this point. Being under the influence also does not excuse shit. I've been drunk and high before. I never sexted a minor. Many people can get high or drunk and not sext a minor. It's not hard. Saying it's a "cultural thing" or "translation based" doesn't excuse it either. You talked about sex acts with a minor, period. Anyway. I did want to give a warning about this person, since it seems they keep roping people into their bullshit and trying to get others on their side. They have since deactivated their tumblr and discord, but allegedly plan to make new accounts. If anything changes, I will update this. Blocking "whatever may come" is not taking responsibility or accountability for it. Blocking the minor is probably the best move, but an apology to them, owning up to your mistakes, taking accountability for it to the person you harmed, are what you need to do. That's just my opinion thought.
