Did you know the BBC wanted a young Doctor spin-off, but the Doctor Who production office shut it down, so all the ideas for it became the CBBC show Leonardo?
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You want a Deca spinoff? Weāve had one all along!!
Itās well-known that CBBC had planned a young Doctor spin-off before they commissioned The Sarah Jane Adventures. As RTD put it in The Inside Story (2006), āChildrenās BBC approached us. They wanted to do a drama based around the idea of a young Doctor Who, but I said no to that. Somehow the idea of a fourteen-year-old Doctor, on Gallifrey inventing sonic screwdrivers, takes away from the mystery and intrigue of who he is and where he came from. So instead I suggested doing a series with Sarah Jane Smith, because she'd been so popular in School Reunion.ā
But is it possible that CBBC didnāt throw out the idea, and āa fourteen-year-old Doctor on Gallifrey inventing sonic screwdriversā became āa fourteen-year-old Leondardo da Vinci in 15th century Florence inventing new futuristic technologiesā? Many thanks to my friend Poseidome for pointing me to this connection, which came from the same rumorhound who told me about the Dalek rights situation and abortive BritBox reshoot plans:
Leonardo is what the young Doctor spin off was going to be. āFantastico!ā as his catchphrase. The series would follow the Doctor, Master, Rani, and friends uncovering a conspiracy within the Academy and Time Lord society. The Doctor and the eventual renegades at the heart of it all. The Doctorās ideas being stolen, his future has been foreseen, Time Lords trying to stop it, etc. All that kind of stuff. Thereās even a Borusa stand-in played by Alistair McGowan!
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The cast I believe would have been the same, along with the budget, filming locations and costumes. Just adapted to be more sci-fi. CGI shots of Gallifrey, actual futuristic technology, classic monster cameos, that kind of thing.
Most if not all the ideas for the young Doctor series are in the Leonardo trailer still, as they kept 99% of the concept. The independent company tasked with adapting it had already done all the development before the idea got canned. Storylines, scripts, characters, costume ideas, locations, sets. If you watch the first series, the story arc and scripts should still be clear what they originally were, so it sort of still is, in a weird way, a bit of Doctor Who media.
I think it would have been really popular. I believe it would have broadcast in a gap year, or between split seasons. Similar to what they later did with Class, but instead of late teens, it was for the Sarah Jane Adventures demographic.
Iāve not seen the second series, but my understanding is its a lot more itās own thing, as by then theyād had time to redevelop it outside of being a reworked young Doctor show. Hence why series 1 is the way it is, and series 2 tonally different.
Iāve done some digging to try to verify this rumour, including reaching out to one of the series 1 writers, but I havenāt found anything definitive yet. I rather doubt that development had gone as far as costumes, sets, etc., given how early in the process RTD seems to have shot it down, but itās certainly true that the cast list matches perfectly. Plagiarising freely from the Leonardo Wiki:
Jonathan Bailey (Psi from āTime Heistā!) as Leonardo da Vinci, a young apprentice who loves painting, inventing, and creating new things. As the BBC Press Office put it, āHeās not just a genius; heās an unstoppable, free-thinking creative force whoās always ten steps ahead of the rest.ā Obviously the Doctor.
Flora Spencer-Longhurst as Tomaso/Lisa (of āMonaā fame), a girl who lives disguised as a male apprentice at Verrocchioās workshop in Florence. According to the rumorhound, this would have been the Rani ā although she also sounds a bit like Alanir ā¦
Akemnji Ndifornyen as Niccolò Machiavelli or āMacā, the number one man when it come to fraud or theft. He has a network of urchin spies and cut-purses throughout the city, and he likes money-making schemes and mingling with the rich and famous. Leo sometimes has to get him out of trouble. Obviously the Master.
Colin Ryan as Lorenzo deā Medici, a wealthy boy largely bored of his life of luxury who enjoys sneaking away to join his friends. He is anxious to please his father, whom he greatly admires. The Monk, perhaps?
Alistair McGowan as Piero deā Medici, an ambitious man and cousin to the Duke of Florence. He keeps a close eye on all happenings in Florence, and he heads a mysterious secret society. Borusa.
James Cunningham as Andrea del Verrocchio, Leo and Tomās strict maestro. Leonardo is very loyal to him. The Doctorās mentor Azmael, or an original character?
In light of this, I could totally believe that the blueprint of the young Doctor series was reused for Leonardo. If true, the transposition of the characters from Gallifrey to late 15th century Florence was frankly inspired. TIL Machiavelli and da Vinci were actually contemporaries!
This wouldnāt be the first time that planned Doctor Who stories have been repurposed for other series: Wizards vs. Aliens (2012ā2014) was made by the same creative team and played in the same timeslot as The Sarah Jane Adventures, and at least one episode was based on a SJA script that had gone unproduced after Elisabeth Sladenās untimely death; some Dirk Gently and Hitchhikerās Guide to the Galaxy stories had their roots in Douglas Adamsā rejected or unproduced Fourth Doctor pitches; and quite a few rejected Wilderness Era book and audio proposals eventually found homes outside Who, such as the Sixth Doctor pitch Smoking Mirror, which ultimately became into the Faction Paradox novel Against Nature.
But unlike those cases, where we know the character dynamics of the Doctor and their companion or Sarah Janeās friends so we can spot their analogues in the new contexts, this young Doctor series is an attempt to do something new. Maybe we can spot the young Doctor and Master [edit: or can we?!], but weāve never seen their friendship anything like this before ā and as for the Monk being an impressionable kid trying to impress his father? Itās completely new.
We donāt have anything to compare Leonardo against: its existence is literally the only surviving hint of CBBCās vision for the young Doctor and friends. And what a compelling hint it is!
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