@vulcains replied to your post: âThe thing that bothers me the most about ace discourse is probably all...â:
i'm ignoring the split attraction stuff and i mean ace as in, doesn't feel attraction/want relationships and all that. i think if that was me it would be a relief to meet others who felt the same u know?
@vulcains replied to your post: âThe thing that bothers me the most about ace discourse is probably all...â:
i think like, GOD i don't wanna compare being aroace to being a lesbian lmao but when i came out i really noticed how isolating and alienating it is 2 exist around non-lesbians and how much everything centres around men even when you try to avoid it. so i don't know that i'd agree that ace people don't have much to bond over?
Thereâs definitely an element of that but unfortunately like... the split attraction model exists and there are aces who are âace but still want sexâ and âace but still experience sexual attraction in extremely specific contextsâ and all this shit, yâunno?
If it were just aroace or ace meant âdoes not want sexâ or whatever, itâd make more sense, but the term ace has been stretched so thin to encompass pretty much EVERY relationship to sex that isnât âloves sex all the time, would find bugs attractive if you drew a human face and dong n themâ that it becomes... hard to bond over?
I agree with the isolation youâre talking about for aroace people but there are aroace peopel who have sex and relationships and itâs like...?? If you like at ace positivity (do noT), youâll see every other post is âPOSITIVITY FOR ALL THE ACES WHO HAVE SEX AND FEEL LEFT OUT OF POSITIVITYâ and then the next is âPOSITIVITY FOR ALL OF THE SEX REPULSED ACES WHO FEEL LEFT OUT!â
And then like... aces can be of any gender, can experience attraction to any gender, and itâs like... itâs not the same thing?
Itâs like if a cishet men tried to join you to talk aout what itâs like to not be attracted to men like?? A manâs experience with being aroace would not be the same as a womanâs experience with being aroace because misogyny plays a huge role in how âaphobiaâ works, yâunno?
A man can get be relatively unscathed whereas a woman canât.
And if women want spaces to talk about not wanting sex/romance in general, a lot of feministâs spaces can accommodate that (to an extent).
I think if things were more straightforward and ace meant aroace and they were willing to concede that itâs mostly just misogyny, thereâd be a lot more to bond over. But rn when we have posts like âdemiromantic people are REAL aros and theyâre oppressed and one of us!!â itâs like... I donât think thereâs a bonding point there.
Itâs just about amassing the largest number of different people they can think of, affirming that thereâs no Wrong Way to be ace or aro, which in turn leads to very little common ground.
Itâs their own politics that have ruined actual meaningful shared experiences. There are cishet aces who run kinky porn blogs... like... I donât tink a sex repulsed aroace is gonna find lots of room for dialogue there, even though theyâre both somehow seen as âthe same.â