#vobin

also season 5 spoilers ? kinda sorta ?

my biggest pet peeve with byler truthers (key term being TRUTHER not SHIPPER cus there’s a difference between shipping and insisting something’s canon) is that they ignore the queer relationship they’re already being handed to chase a ship where one of the characters has NEVER been gay or even subtly hinted at being gay then INSIST its queerbaiting when will who HAS been written as gay does not end up with his best friend/unrequited crush who has CONSISTENTLY rejected him. the duffers have never implemented a “will they won’t they” dynamic between will and mike it has ALWAYS been “they won’t” and their dynamic has been played out from season 1.

then people complain that the duffer brothers “can’t write queer people being happy” and “cant allow queer people to accept themselves AND find love” yet they do. vickie and robin. robin accepts herself and her queerness, helps will accept himself AND has a girlfriend she is happy with. but they are overshadowed by a ship that has never and will never be canon.

and maybe this is just something that upsets me personally as a lesbian since any piece of lesbian media i’ve watched gets cancelled or overshadowed. but i remember my excitement as a 12 year old watching st3 for the first time and watching robin come out and being so happy that i was being represented in a show. and when robin got her happy ending with vickie i was so excited only to go online and see people not care at all, and be more invested in byler.

and this is not “lesbian representation is more important than gay representation” at all. they can and should coexist and i wish nothing more than for will to be happy with a boy. but i just think it sucks that the one time a lesbian relationship is represented, it gets overshadowed by an unrealistic pipe dream for some fans.

PLUS i loved the metaphor that mike was wills “tammy” someone he thought he wanted, but in reality all he wanted was to be seen and accepted. if anything i think will having a friendship with another queer person was MORE important than byler was and i really enjoyed their camaraderie.

So Stranger Things, how we all feeling? Personally I liked it, I kinda knew from the start no main characters (a part from El (if she is) since that was heavily hinted at and predictable) were going to die, since the Duffer Brothers aren’t known for that in the series at all.

Like yeah you have Barb, Bob, Eddie, and Kali who died (and obvs more who I can’t think of atm) but none of them were the main cast. The first three died the season they were introduced, and Kali appeared in very little episodes.

Like as soon as Steve fell from that tower I knew he would be safe, they already lost the shock value of him dying after that.

I wish the fight scene was a little longer, it felt short and kinda, idk, rushed? Also is the mind flayer actually dead or is it just resting?

Also is it weird that I knew byler wouldn’t be happening? Like I love byler they’re one of my fav ships, but at no point in the show did Mike look like he was consider reciprocating Wills feelings. Like he was still very in love with El. Also I hated that in the beginning of season 5 Will tried to flirt with Mike (at least that’s what I got out of it) from Robins advice, but then a few episodes later decided he was just a crush?

If Wills Epilogue Boyfriend is real I’m honestly so happy for him, even without Mike he deserves happiness after all that he went through!

Also Jancy breaking up honestly broke me, I love them so much that scene pained me 😫 (also most romantic break up scene ever?? Hello????)

I disliked a few things (that I haven’t mentioned before) like the kids having no consequences from being with Vecna or the mind flyer like Will was and has been. Also the fact that everyone at the end was suddenly cool with hellfire when Dustin showed he was wearing that shirt as if they didn’t beat him up for it at the beginning of the season.

I have a few questions as well:

What happened to Erica and Mr Clarke after the Military found them in the church?

What happened to Max and Vickie after the military found them in the squawk?

Are Vickie and Robin still together? (pls say they are 🙏)

How old was Henry in the lab? Like he was shown in high school (from the uk so I don’t really know the us age systems and such) but he looked young when in the labs, unless he attended school too?

What happened to the military after the finale? Did they just decide to leave? Like the party committee several crimes how did they not turn on them 😭

How did that guy in the lab coat that Henry killed get that stone? Did they already know of the Abyss before Henry had his blood taken? How?

Where was Henry during that scene? What was he wearing?

Who was the guy in the lab coat referring to when he said ‘them’? Will that ever be explained or has it already?

Is El actually dead? Like yeah the ending was ambiguous, so she could be alive, but if so how was kali still alive if it was? Also does Will actually have an Epilogue Boyfriend or is that just something Mike made up like El possibly being alive?

What happened to those pregnant women? Were they real and got killed when the Upside Down was destroyed, or were they never real and made up by Kali?

Why didn’t anyone of the older adults recognise Henry? Or didn’t they know vecna was Henry?

So, that’s my little ramble! Sorry if it’s so long!

Also if I said something incorrect or something that’s already go an answer pls don’t come after me I watched the episode at 2am and finished it at 4am so I was a little tired at the time.

so just to start with; Mike was worried about Will as soon as he went missing. Like right there. He was terrified that he would lose Will. He thought about him all the damn time. Literally cried in his mother’s arms. Was the FIRST one to hug him when they got him hospitalized. HE LITERALLY PUT HIS HEAD ON WILLS CHEST TO HEAR HIS HEARTBEAT. Literally what more do you want from that??

second reason: the van scene. just the van scene itself. But specifically the painting part of the van scene. When Will gave Mike the painting he was literally grinning. Smiling so hard at that moment. But yk what happened when Will told him that El commissioned it? his face immediately fucking dropped. Like I’m sorry, who in their right mind would see that as heterosexual activity?? NO FUCKING BODY.

and here we go with the whole THEYRE ALWAYS STARING AT EACH OTHERS FUCKING LIPS. LIKE ITS CONSTANT. In the movie theatre scene in the beginning of season 3 is a prime example. THE MOTHERFUCKING VAN SCENE. MIKE WAS STARINGGGGGG AT WILLS LIPS. LITERALLY COULD NOT MAKE DIRECT EYE CONTACT. LIKE DAMN.

Another one is a thing i reblogged so credits to the original poster for this idea but there are food metaphors about homosexuality. at the end of season 4 when Robin and Vickie are making the sandwiches, something was said by Robin about peanut butter sandwiches being “monstrosities” i believe, or something of that nature. This is about how peanut butter and peanut butter (which is referring to two people of the same gender) shouldn’t belong together, and Vickie thinks its okay, and its not bad. Which pretty much confirms that Vickie is not straight, however i dont think that this has been confirmed by the Duffer Brothers. Now in the pizza place scene when Argyle and El are trying to get Mike to eat pineapple pizza. He calls it blasphemous, and when they finally get him to try it he says that it isn’t that bad. He said that it was good. This is referring to the fact that homosexuality is frowned upon by many people, but Mike is basically saying that it isn’t that bad. Like thats basically our comfirmation of Mike being queer, or maybe we’re just looking wayyyyy too into it.

Actually remembered to post an edit here too, woohoo!!