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Here's a juicy find. Enter1c taking snipes at Nilla for being critical of Spindlehorse over the fanmerch situation (because fucking of course enter1c has to reflexively defend spindlehorse on everything) and elcee liking it. But I also have suspicions that enter1c is an elcee alt, so there's that.
https://bsky.app/profile/enter1c.bsky.social/post/3mq3ff77k3c2h
Honestly wouldn't shock me. Even if it's not Elcee, they're the same kind of noxious.
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Look, I know that we all hate Amir for being a sexist prick towards women, but recently, I found something rather satisfying, particularly the fact that he got chewed out by his wife in the middle of a YouTube livestream that he was hosting where he was writing a Valastor AU fanfic, as if that weirdo couldn't get any more weirder...
Anyways, what she was calling Amir out for was regarding him not getting the laundry, as well as how annoyed she was at how he wasn't dressed for dinner. And she didn't even care that she was doing this live, as she wanted everyone to see how he's disappointing her.
Here's a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/live/D96JiIalAWM?si=txuF26Nv8H4DaJ2g
Timestamp: 40:58-42:00
Cropped because holy hell, this is equal measures satisfying and sad. It isn't like, a bit they're doing and she's not being playful, she's genuinely pissed that he can't be assed to help with the laundry or even get dressed for dinner. And he doesn't think to pause the stream or anything, he just keeps giggling like a hyena.
Might be a bit emotional.
By all accounts I should heavily relate to Via. My parents were a forced arranged marriage, except instead of Stolas being gay, my mother is aroace (she doesn't know the term herself because she's LGBTQ+phobic but that's what she keeps describing to me). My father was never a good husband or father, my mother couldn't fight him much so she took it out on us, and I had to shield my little sister from both my parents. And the way they kept fighting from when I was so young, yelling, weaponising religion, asking me to "choose" one, yelling about divorce and the marriage being a mistake and guilt-tripping each other, and us children being mistakes too. My mother and I also have sufficient proof to at least suspect my father might have cheated at one or two points somehow (which adds up considering my mother has several signs that she's aroace meaning he probably wasn't happy in the marriage but still shitty).
But you know what kept me from relating to her, from feeling so deeply for her story? The framing of the narrative. Sinsmas especially made it look like she was somewhat in the wrong and Stolas could do no wrong whatsoever. And I hated that. My parents are both victims of being forced to marry, clearly they have issues and aren't compatible. But they both hurt each other, and they both hurt me. And I don't care beyond a point that they're also victims when they made me a victim too. I can't. And Helluva framing the story to be Stolas centred is fine but making Via an obstacle? Brandon calling her a "cockblocker" for being in the way of the worst power-imbalanced yaoi ship ever, and the fandom HATING her for existing and hurting their precious owl? I felt terrible. I distanced myself from her and the show. I couldn't do it anymore. That was when I unsubbed from Vivzie and never went back.
Sorry for the vent. But it hurts to see someone in a story I deeply relate to, and that character being hated and mishandled, not only by the fandom but also the showrunner herself. But "creators owe us nothing" or whatever so I'm choosing to pick up the broken pieces and carry on. It's happened before and will happen again. I guess I'll just never look at fiction for comfort.
(But still, if anyone knows a GOOD handling of a forced arranged marriage story - and something that's NOT the stupid "they fall in love later" trope - let me know, I guess.)
Thanks for being a safe space Chai.
Happy to do it, Anon. Being a safe space will have to do in lieu of the hug I wish I could give you, because good lord. I'm very sorry that all of that happened, and that Viv's handling of Via let you down.
(If fictionalized tellings of real events count, my favorite forced marriage story is The Crown. It's every bit the disaster it was in real life, and I like how it reserves the lion's share of blame for the crown itself.)
Is it bad that I'm sad that both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss became fanfics of themselves but I can watch Angry Birds 1&2 despite knowing that they are fanfics of the mobile game and be fine with it?
Viv's never written anything this poignant and almost certainly never will.
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The more I’ve sat on the TADC finale, I think it’s reminding me of Time’s Arrow from Bojack: Both episodes give context to the their respective abusive characters actions(Beatrice Sugarman and Jax respectively) but never excuses their actions or makes the audience pity/excuse them for their behavior, and ultimately leaves you wondering what would’ve happened if things hadn’t happened the way they’d did. It makes their endings bittersweet in a way that makes you kinda appreciate them as a character(it also makes me feel like the people who accused Jax of taking up too much screen time are tattling on themselves a bit)
It’s something that I honestly think Viv will never be able to pull off with Hazbin or Helluva
I think you're right. Both TADC and BoJack had their issues, but they had an understanding of storytelling, and maybe more importantly, a understanding of how to convey grief and compassion and tenderness. Viv writes like someone described human compassion to an alien.
Also, under no circumstances should you imagine Pomni learning to play the piano sufficiently enough to do this.
Even if you turn your brain off and watch helluva boss for what it is: a yaoi Fanfiction with songs, it's still not enjoyable because who wants to see a dynamic where one partner is always mistreated and looked down and the other one treated him like garbage??? Vivziepop doesn't know how to write a series as well as she doesn't know how to write a Fanfiction....
For comparison, one of my favorite smutty yaoi OVAs ends with this. Stolas would pour boiling hot coffee into his nasal passages before he made some for Blitz.
if there's one that gets my goat in fandom spaces, it's biased moderators. I'm in another fandom that will remain nameless where I haven't been able to participate in general fandom spaces as much because of ship war reasons - even if you just want to analyse the text or point out cute character interactions, if it's the ship the fandom supercruiser hates users will bully you and mods will enable it or delete your stuff. it's so annoying
it shouldn't be the job of the mods to enforce what's "correct" beyond what happens in the text and isn't up for interpretation. but if the fandom supercruiser assumes that's the case about their ship they become mods just to ensure everyone else is shipping the "right" thing, even if it's inconclusive
That guy 4chan likes said it best.
