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What are they up to?

We all know and love The Incredibles.

And one of the biggest praises for the film is how dark it is.

Touching on themes most kids movies wouldn't.

This is one of the PG animated movies where the rating actually means something.

Featuring a depiction of a midlife crisis, showing the soul-crushing mundaneness of everyday life, toying with potential infidelity, and showcasing TONS of death and murder.

And there's a few scenes that really stand out for how dark they are.

Such as the suicide attempt during the prologue and most famously, the KRONOS Unveiled scene.

This is not only the best scene in the movie, but has been widely considered as one of the greatest scenes in film in general.

It perfectly builds tension using Michael Giacchino's stellar score and visual storytelling, which culminates in a chilling revelation about Syndrome's plan.

And the real kicker is, of course, Mr. Incredible discovering so many Supers that had been slaughtered by Syndrome.

Which hits even harder when you remember that many of these guys were his friends.

Well since today is Halloween, I wanted to cover something that while it isn't spooky, it does cover a particularly dark topic.

And that's on how the known slain Supers died.

I mean, we all know that were taken out by The Omnidroids.

But we don't really know how they were specifically taken out.

And I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone touch on that topic yet.

So I figured in honor of Halloween, I'd talk about this topic.

Figuring out how each of the Supers were taken out by The Omnidroids and where Syndrome's slaughtering on the Supers fit in the Incredibles timeline.

So without further ado, let's get started!

General Overview:

Right off the bat, we got a establish this.

Syndrome's slaughtering of the Supers is much more recent than you would think.

Remember, he's canonically 27.

And the end of The Glory Days, which took place shortly after his encounter with Bob, happened 15 years ago.

Meaning he would've been 12.

There's no way he started this massacre at such a young age.

I think it's safe to say that he largely lived a normal life.

Finishing up junior high.

Going to high shcool.

And then eventually college.

Given how Syndrome obtained his wealth by selling advanced weapons to governments and militaries, I could assume that he probably attracted the attention of some government officials first through his incredible (heh) inventions.

Probably did so at a science fair/expo for his college.

And it impressed them so much that they gave him a job.

Soon enough, Syndrome was able to quickly become rich because of the weapons he made and mostly likely made friends with some government officials.

And one of those friends would be one who just so happened to have access to The NSA Files.

And so, Syndrome's crusade would begin.

I think it's safe to say that when Syndrome started his Supers slaughtering, he would've had to have been fresh out of college.

So most likely 22, putting this about five years prior to the present.

And after a few months of making his base on Nomanisan Island and creating the very first Omnidroid, Syndrome was ready to unleash his creation onto the Supers, using Mirage to lure them to the island.

So with that out of the way, let's start talking about slaughtering!

Universal Man:

Here we have the very first Super to have died to The Omnidroid.....

And perhaps the most baffling.

Many people, myself included, have been absolutely confused by how Universal Man was....even killed in general.

Since if you look at his powers, they're absolutely fucking CRACKED!

He had the power to manipulate his molecular density.

As for what he could do with that power.

-He could make himself more or less INVINCIBLE, being impossible to harm in any sort of way.

-Grant himself superhuman strength.

-Grant himself the ability to fly.

-Becoming intangible

-Turn invisible

-And manipulate the pressure and speed of molecules in objects to the point of COMBUSTION! Along with being able to throw waves of explosive energy at enemies!

With all that said, he should be one of the most powerful Supers in the world!

Not to mention, Syndrome should've been COOKED a long time ago!

I just can't see Universal Man losing to any of The Omnidroids, let alone the very first one!

It's even stranger given how out of the known Supers on KRONOS, he had the second lowest Threat Rating at 2.9!

He should be WAY higher than that!

Like somewhere in the 8 or even 9 range.

But this does lead us into his weaknesses.

On his stats, it's shown that while Universal Man ranked pretty high in Power Type and was maxed out in Indestructibility, everything else left much to be desired.

Especially his Agility and Intelligence.

However, like I said before, he was able to make himself incredibly strong.

And while he most likely wasn't as strong as Bob, he was definitely far stronger than the average human.

So he should be ranked much higher in that category.

Endurance is pretty strange as well since it's stated that out of all the Supers, he contributed to being a hero just about all the time.

And I mean ALL the time.

So he should've been at least fairly competent at his job, in spite of his low intelligence.

Now some of you will probably bring up how Universal Man has the ability to bring his density to the point of becoming a BLACK HOLE.

And at first glance, this does seem like an insta-win.

However, this is actually a double-edged sword.

It's stated that he can't control this form at all.

And it would end up resulting in the entire planet being DESTROYED!

But with even the first Omnidroid being incredibly strong, fast and having sharp claws, realistically, this shouldn't be a problem for Universal Man, since he could just tank all of it!

So with that said, how was he even defeated?

Well ever since The NSA Files started trending, a popular fan theory has arose that answered how Universal Man was killed.

And it's one that I could actually see being true.

The theory is that Universal Man PURPOSELY let himself get killed by The Omnidroid.

And when you look at the information we have on the guy and really think about it, this unfortunately makes a lot of sense.

The reason why Universal Man was always doing hero work was because he barely had a secret identity, something he was deeply upset about.

There was also the fact that he was something of an outcasts among his fellow heroes for that reason.

And his given how his tape shows that he's pretty mentally and emotionally unstable, that probably didn't help either.

And when given how the moment that Universal Man fought the first Omnidroid would've been about 10 years since the ban of Supers......just imagine what he would be like!?

He was probably like Bob but even more miserable.

At least Bob was being a hero because he genuinely loved helping those in need.

Whereas Universal Man was being a hero because he really had nothing going for him in life.

And if he couldn't make any sort of meaningful connections with his fellow Supers, you think he'll have any luck with normal civilians.

And going off his tape, Universal Man didn't have much luck with romance either.

So it's safe to say that he didn't have a special somebody in his life.

I think it's safe to say that during his fight with The Omnidroid, Universal Man was probably having the time of his life.

Given this was his first taste of action in about a decade.

And at some point, he realized that once he defeats The Omnidroid, he would have to go back to a lonely and miserable life.

And so, Universal Man let himself be slain by The Omnidroid.

Because to him, being dead would be better than being alone and miserable.

Psycwave:

Now Psycwave's defeat is a bit more easier to grasp.

Despite of how powerful most of her powers are, they unfortunately have no effect on machines.

But even then, she also had telekinesis, which would've definitely be pretty useful.

And if you ever seen X-Men, then you'd known how powerful telekinesis can truly be.

In spite of powerful she is, she has the lowest Threat Rating at 1.6!

There's no way she should be that low.

She should definitely be at least in the 8 category!

I can only assume these Threat Ratings were done by Syndrome and in the case of Psycwave, it was probably because of how most of her powers couldn't really do jack-shit to The Omnidroid.

As for Universal Man, I could imagine it was probably because he wasn't using everything he had at his disposal.

As for how Psycwave got defeated.

I could assume that even with her telekinesis, she was constantly being quartered by The Omnidroid and its superior speed.

Not helping is the fact that she's canonically stated to be paranoid.

And I could imagine Syndrome would definitely use that to his advantage.

Having the fear of The Omnidroid lingering over Psycwave, this would definitely make her a lot of more impulsive and not being able to think straight, even with her high intelligence.

It should be noted that even though Psycwave was defeated, it's been stated that her body was never found.

So it could be assumed that she was able to escape The Omnidroid.

But given how her stats show that her Indestructibility was not very good, so she probably didn't make it that far before succumbing to her injuries.

Everseer:

Like Psycwave, Everseer is pretty easy to grasp how he died.

His powers were primarily made for support.

And unlike Psycwave and Universal Man, he didn't have any powers that would aid him in offense.

Top that with how his Strength, Agility and Indestructibility are pretty damn low and how he couldn't fight for shit due to him actively avoiding physical confrontations thanks to being a massive germaphobe.

I couldn't really see him lasting very long against The Omnidroid.

But with that said.....

HOW THE HELL DOES HE HAVE A HIGHER THREAT THAN PSYCWAVE AND UNIVERSAL MAN?!

Granted, it's only a 3.2, but still!

When you compare the three, Everseer hands down seems like the weakest here.

Largely thanks to his lack of offensive capabilities.

I genuinely want to know what Syndrome was smoking when he was making these Threat Ratings.

Marcoburst:

Now we've arrived to Marcoburst, the very first Super to have defeated an Omnidroid.

Marcoburst most likely defeated the first Omnidroid by out-maneuvering it (as it's shown on his file that he was very agile) and hitting it with powerful gusts of wind.

However, they would eventually fall to the second Omnidroid.

As for how.

I think its safe to say that Syndrome made the hull of the second Omnidroid a bit stronger.

At least enough to make it more resistant to powerful wind velocity.

And a bit faster to be able to catch Macroburst by surprise.

It also probably had gotten them trapped in a very tight space, which would definitely be a detriment to Marcoburst given that they're stated to be claustrophobic.

The Phylange:

Phylange is pretty easy to understand in terms of how he got defeated.

His power of sonic voice field projection sounded pretty powerful, but by the time his tape was recorded, was more or less non-existent.

Given how everytime he used it, he would get his voice blown out.

And eventually getting diagnosed with laryngitis didn't help either.

In his tape, his voice sounds ROUGH.

And I think it's safe to say that during his confrontation with the second Omnidroid, he couldn't really do much of anything.

So their fight was probably pretty short.

However, it is pretty strange how Phylange has a higher Threat Rating (4.7) than most of the heroes who lost to the first Omnidroid (except for Marcoburst).

Especially since by the time his tape was recorded, his power was pretty weaken!

Granted, it probably returned back to a state like how it was in his prime thanks to the decade-long break from heroics.

So in that case, the second Omnidroid must've utilized Phylange's weakness to sonic feedback (incapacitating him) and eventually impaled him with his claws while he was down.

Blazestone:

Blazestone is also pretty easy to see how she was defeated.

Given her major weaknesses are water and cold temperatures (as she can't use her powers when covered in either), the second Omnidroid had either knocked her into a body of water of some kind or had some special device that allowed it to emit a freezing mist.

And with her being left powerless, The Omnidroid went in for the kill.

After Blazestone's defeat, the second Omnidroid was eventually destroyed by an unknown Super.

Thus leading Syndrome to create the third Omnidroid.

The third Omnidroid eventually killed two unknown Supers and an actually known Super.

Downburst:

Downburst is a pretty interesting one.

When he first started his career as a super, his powers weren't exactly all that impressive.

As he could only use his atomic manipulation to heal minor wounds and reshape matter on a rather small scale.

But over time, he would start to master his power.

Being able to reshape matter on a more complex scale and heal severe wounds.

And it even got to the point where he could actually create portals!

Not to mention he has a 6.5 Threat Rating, which is nothing to scoff at.

So he would be a pretty tricky Super to fight.

Chances are Downburst was either defeated by the third Omnidroid catching him by surprise and impaling him, or was just overpowered and beaten to death.

Hypershock:

Hypershock was the second-known Super to have taken down an Omnidroid.

He most likely defeated the third Omnidroid by either causing a massive landslide that crushed it, or splitting the ground beneath it, causing it to fall into The Earth.

His superhuman strength also probably allowed him to get some good hits on it as well.

However, he would eventually fall to the fourth Omnidroid.

As for how it defeated him.

It was probably given the ability to jump incredibly high (now having actual legs), which would've allowed it to dodge Hypershock's seismic waves.

And while in the air, it most likely decided to drop down on Hypershock with great force, crushing him to death.

Apogee:

Apogee is pretty interesting.

Since while her powers are absolutely BUSTED (accompanied by a 6.5 Threat Rating), they're unfortunately very situational.

Apogee's biggest weakness is that her powers don't work at all whenever there's no sunlight.

So if there's clouds out, a solar eclipse, or it's sunset.

Yeah she's pretty much useless.

It's safe to say that her confrontation with the fourth Omnidroid took place either at sunset or at night, rendering her powers obsolete.

And so, The Omnidroid was able to make a quick kill.

Blitzerman, Tradewind and Vectress:

I'm grouping these three together since there aren't any files on them and apart from the LEGO video game, they haven't been shown what they look like at all.

But going off what we've got.

Blitzerman could move with great speed and force, which allowed him to blitz through obstacles.

Tradewind was basically The Avatar, being able control various elements of nature.

And Vectress was basically The Phylange (but possibly without the same drawback).

As for how they got defeated.

The fourth Omnidroid's hull was probably too thick and durable for Blitzerman to run through.

And there's a chance that he probably broke his neck when he tried to do so by the immediate collision.

The hull was also probably resistant various elements, which wouldn't be in the favor for Tradewind.

And he was probably taken out thanks to The Omnidroid's ability to jump high.

And Vectress was probably taken out the same way as Phylange through sonic feedback.

Gazerbeam:

After killing two more unknown Supers, the fourth Omnidroid would see its defeat at the hands of Gazerbeam.

As his beams have been showed to be pretty powerful and can burn through solid metal.

But sadly, he would fall to the fifth Omnidroid.

In terms of how he was defeated.

Syndrome most likely made the fifth Omnidroid's hull smooth enough to deflect lasers, as reflective surfaces are stated to be one of Gazerbeam's weaknesses.

And the fight most likely took place at night, as another weakness of his is not being able to see well in the dark.

Gazerbeam was most likely mortally wounded by one of his own lasers.

But as we all know, he was able to escape into a cave and used what little energy he had left to carve the word KRONOS into its walls, hoping that someday, someone will find it and finally bring Syndrome down.

Stormicide:

Stormicide is pretty interesting.

Because I was having a tricky time trying to figure out how she died.

Since it doesn't seem there would be a way for The Omnidroid to counter her powers.

Since there would be vapors just about everywhere on a tropical island.

But I thought about it, and I realized that admittedly, he powers probably wouldn't do all that much to The Omnidroid.

Since a lot of those would be water-based and I'm certain that The Omnidroid would be resistant to that.

Gamma Jack:

Now we've come to the last officially known Super to have died to The Omnidroid.

Gamma Jack was able to destroy the fifth Omnidroid.

Most definitely because of his power to manipulate radiation, being able to bring it to the point of disintegration.

However, he would eventually fall to the sixth Omnidroid.

In terms of how that happened.

If you look at the sixth Omnidroid's model, you can see that it started to resemble its successors with its spherical shape.

And given how the later models of The Omnidroid could roll into a ball and move at incredible speeds, it's safe to say that it was too fast for Gamma Jack to hit.

And it's possible that Syndrome made the hull of this one either resistant to radiation energy, or at the very least could withstand it for a good amount of time.

I mean, given how the eighth Omnidroid was able to withstand being submerged in lava, I wouldn't be surprised.

Not helping is how Gamma Jack's major weakness is that the intensity of his bursts get weaker the further they go.

And it's safe to say that he was forced to fight The Omnidroid from a considerable distance due to how fast and strong it was.

So Gamma Jack was either taken out in one of two ways.

1#) He was caught off guard by The Omnidroid and either crushed or impaled.

Or 2#) He was tired out and eventually killed. If you look at his stats, it's shown that his Endurance is surprisingly not that good.

To wrap this, we come back to the Incredibles timeline.

As Gamma Jack's death gives a good time when this happened and how long the Supers slaughtering had been going on.

And that's for a character not really related to the whole ordeal.

Jack Jack.

Yeah I'm not kidding.

He actually could be the answer to this question.

It's been heavily speculated that Jack Jack was named after Gamma Jack, given how he was one of Bob's closest friends.

Though that's very strange given everything we know about him.

Remember, he was basically Homelander but a little less bad.

But following the ban on Supers, chances are Gamma Jack mellowed out quite a lot.

I mean, that wouldn't be too surprising.

Tons of people change over time for the better.

With that considered, along with knowing that Jack Jack is currently a year old, Gamma Jack's death have to had been at least over a year before the present.

Gamma Jack most likely had died just a few months before Jack Jack was born.

But to his friends, since they wouldn't know the truth until later, Gamma Jack just straight up disappeared and was never seen again.

Which I could imagine hit Bob pretty hard given he was one of his closest friends.

Gazerbeam too.

And so, he and Helen decided to name their latest child after him in his honor.

And with that considered, that means that at the point, Syndrome's slaughtering on the Supers had been going on for over three years, with all the known Supers to haven fallen to The Omnidroid during that time frame.

Well that's it for now.

Not exactly spooky, this post does cover a particularly dark topic.

Which I felt was still perfect for Halloween.

I'd hope you guys like it.

Plus I'd like to hear your theories on how much time passed between the murder of each Super during the time frame I just mentioned.

Also I'd like to hear your theories on what happened to the sixth and seventh Omnidroid, since their fate is completely unknown.

Whether they were destroyed by another Super, or were just decommissioned.

But until next time......

Vectress!

Downburst—Sidney Poitier

Fironic—Cary Grant

Gamma Jack—Tab Hunter

Vectress—Pearl Bailey

Stormicide—Rue McClanahan

Macroburst—Tommy Kirk

Stratogale—Gloria Talbott

Some of these will NOT be in order due to each movie because my brain is in over time!! Not to mentioned the animated series which I haven't watch so please forgive me TvT

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Human Characters:

 Larry Daley- Mr.Incredible/Bob Parr

Erica Daley- Elastigirl/Helen Parr.

Museum Exhibits characters:

Theodore Roosevelt-Everseer.

Octavius- Gazerbeam.

Jedediah- Gamma Jack.

Sacajawea- Plasmabolt. (by @mossvell who mentioned Plasmabolt as Sacajawea)

Ahkmenrah- Macroburst

Shepseheret- Blazestone (NATM: Secret of the Tomb)

Merenkahre- Downburst or Frozone (NATM: Secret of the Tomb)

Sir Lancelot- Hypershock or Universal Man. (NATM: Secret of the Tomb) & (Idk I'm still in the works here with this one T~T)

Amelia Earhart-Vectress or Apogee.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Joan Of Arc-Stratogale (NATM animated series)

Orville and Wilbur Wright-Phlyange & Meta-Man.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Greta Zimmer Friedman-Stormicide.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Joey Motorola-Blizterman. (NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

George Armstrong Custer-Dynaguy.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Ivan The Terrible or Kahmunrah- Xerek.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Al Capone- Syndrome/Buddy Pine.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Napoleon Bonaparte-Bomb Voyage.(NATM: Battle of the Smithsonian)

Alexander Hamilton- Fironic (NATM animated series)

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