#tw cimi

i recently saw a couple of your posts and kinda learned what amab, rmab, camab mean. (and the other gender variations)

I was wondering, what the difference is between amab and camab is. what makes a gender assignment coercive?

CAMAB, which stands for "coercively assigned male at birth," refers to intersex people who were surgically assigned male through IGM, which stands for "intersex genital mutilation." IGM is always wrong, and people who were CAMAB are victims of violent medical intersexism. This label, along with RMAB, are specific to intersex experiences, which perisex people do not have and should not co-opt.

just heard the news that pcos has been renamed to pmos, so i wanted to ask something now, since i've ruled out fused labia due to it actually just moving upwards when trying to look at it, so i'm back to square one which is questioning hyperandrogenism. i think it's definitely pmos now after checking wikipedia for the pcos rename, but i still wanna check with a gynecologist for an official veredict.

i'm planning to go on june after my birthday, since i got my final exams on friday and saturday of june's first week (that saturday also falls on my birthday, so it might seem like it sucks, but it starts at 8:30 am so i have plenty of time to celebrate after i finish!), and not much about my actual traits changed even with my months of exercise, since mom says periods can get irregular with it, but mines always were irregular since the beginning, so not much stuff changes really (also a lot of my pants fit better now with it!), so i feel like i'm ready to go once the load (exams) is done!

one problem though. if i do get diagnosed with pmos, i'll be prescripted estrogen in the form of birth control and i REALLY don't wanna take it, because i've learned to love my traits the way they are and i don't want to be "fixed". however my family always has to make sure i take all my pills daily (it may just be two, being sertraline and risperidone, but unlike the birth control pills, these *are* actually useful for me due to my tendency to daydream and dissociate due to my autism and adhd, so i need to be reminded to take them so i don't wander off), so i'll sadly have to comply for now. maybe in the future i could try and get some t to get my high testosterone back (if i do actually have it), but for now, the present's the present, and i have to live through it.

rant aside, thanks for helping me and my friend by the way, we really appreciate it 🥹🥹

i hope pcos's name change to pmos makes it better for me to know if i'm intersex, since i check a lot of the boxes, but differential diagnoses also exist, so i just wanna check with a professional to see what exactly it is!

once again, thanks for everything :D (positive)

'intersexuality isnt as complex as you think it is'

I just saw this and its so. Maybe yours may not be complicated, or maybe you're in denial..

But are you a victim of IGM? How about born with ambiguous genitals? Have you been victim to various doctors reassigning your sex as an infant?

There are so many factors that change per every intersex person, and walking in and proclaiming something like that shows you really aren't connected to other intersex people in the slightest and would rather grovel at perisex boots

Sorry for ranting in here, you've also seen lots of bs and would understand the rahhhh this feels like

Okay, I think I could interpret "intersexuality isn't as complex as you think it is" in one of two ways.

The first way being like you said, clearly this person thinks intersexuality is simple and lacks nuance. Intersexuality is different for literally everyone and can cause incredibly varying experiences, and it's fucked up to say the opposite. I usually see this kind of stuff said from people whose intersexuality hasn't effected them all that much and haven't suffered any form of CIMI. These are the kinds of people who say shit like "intersex people can't have both," or "afab transfems and amab transmascs are invalid" and whatnot.

The second way I could interpret this being that maybe they just meant to say something like, "intersexuality is easier to understand if you actually tried understanding it." Like, maybe they're trying to show perisex people that if they stopped thinking of intersexuality as some mysterious third sex, that they'd actually learn a lot. But idk, this feels like a stretch. It's not the best way to go about saying this anyways.

I know my intersex experience had been complex as fuck, so I certainly don't feel connected to that phrase. I've never met anyone else whose SIG flipped when they were a teen, who had to deal with forced hormones but not with IGM despite ambiguous genitals. I've never met anyone else who used to be forced on estrogen and progesterone despite their natal estrogen levels being through the fucking roof. I've never met anyone else who swapped from taking estrogen to taking testosterone in their teens. I actually feel lucky that I got to take T as a minor because of my reassignment, meanwhile another person might feel traumatized from it. This is complex, and there's no denying it. Or at least it's complex for my mind to understand.

Like i literally have medical proof in the form of a whole other person pleASE just take a look at my gonads PLEASE

Questioning ovotestes culture is!

Yasaku Edogai from Golden Kamuy is intersex and transfemmasc (link) using he/she pronouns, and his variation is 5alpha-Reductase Deficiency (5ARD) with a micropenis, hypospadias, and gynecomastia!

She was raised with conflicting gender expectations from her parents as a result of her intersex variation; his mother wanted him to be more lady-like, while her father held her to a more masculine standard. Ultimately and unfortunately, his mother's desire for him to be a woman led her to castrate him to halt a virilizing puberty that was making him "act like her father". He is also implied to be schizospec* and experiences auditory hallucinations.

Requested by @okultraoldmanyaoi

Intersex flag-only and 7-stripe transfemmasc flag edits under the cut, along with extensive elaboration from the requester!