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Sorry I don't know how to put this underwater but my notifications are now full of replies like the one screenshotted and I feel like I'm going insane. How is this not just full on naked transphobia. These guys rhetorically categorize themselves as False Men and don't see any problem with it ??? I know this isn't new but I just don't even understand how the appeal of placing yourself in an Ontologically Innocent Category outweighs the dysphoria you would think this would cause.
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I think there's a thing to the argument that "people demonize testosterone as this horrible thing" but also this argument is 9 times outta 10 used against trans women being dismayed by dysphoria who arent actually saying this shit. Like, there are actual terfs trying to spread misinformation about T to dissuade transmascs from wanting it, a lot of fear mongering, but the people doing that are not the people getting shit for it. It's always transfems talking about how they feel having a T based puberty ruined their life or some shit. And I think that's the thing about the transandro groups that annoys me and just makes them look 100% like a transmisogynistic movement - they never actually target anyone that's actually taking part in the oppression of transmascs, it's always harassment campaigns against trans women. And if you scroll their blogs you find that the one or two times they do deal with terfs they treat them better than they treat trans women they disagree with and it's kinda telling.
if your (trans-)feminism inherently excludes any minority group on the basis that one of their immutable traits makes them inherently evil, you are not a transfeminist. you are LARPing as one, but you aren't doing jack shit that has to do with feminism.
this includes trans people, nonbinary individuals, trans guys and transmascs, trans gals and transfems, intersex people (with or without any trans identity), gnc individuals, black trans people, brown trans people, asian trans people, indigenous trans people— and any combination of these.
if you exclude any group of people from your transfeminism or activism, you are not an activist. you are trying to seem like a good person while clinging desperately to your own hateful, putrid ideals. get better and over yourself
idk, i just feel like if your primary argument against transandrophobia/antitransmasculinity theory is that you think it's transmisogynistic you're not being intellectually honest. who does it hurt when trans men and mascs coin a term to describe the intersection of transphobia and sexism as it most frequently affects them? because it does hurt trans men when they're told that they're not entitled to speak on the discrimination they themselves face.
what I'm hearing from people who oppose the antitransmasculinity movement is that transmisogyny is when trans men talk about their problems 👍, but obviously that's not true. i know that's not true. you know that's not true. so then what is the issue? genuinely, enlighten me. you want trans men to shut up and listen? I'm listening.
"majority of her campaign" sure buddy, sure. the majority, yes. that's also the first thing that comes to mind when i think about jkr. definitely. there's absolutely no other group that she and her ilk hate more. yup, sure.
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loud bitch! (he/ask)
trans guy who DEFINITELY doesnt HATE transfems: "no yea i support transfems, because we're all siblings of course, we're all trannies and faggots here. i just think its really annoying when they talk about transmisogyny, like isnt everyone affected by transmisogyny. also their terms for being targeted by transmisogyny, dont you think thats like, an unnecessary binary, almost like a gender binary. yea its actually exactly the same as asking us whats in our pants! yea, transfems are always so sexually aggressive, asking us about our genitals and shit yea. also theyre always being so bitchy and whiny, talking about transmascs having privilege and social power over them. i dont know, i just think we should all kiss & make out & and have nasty tranny sex, haha. haha! im sexualizing trans women isnt that funny!? what do you mean im being transmisogynistic. stop being transandrophobic to me, TRF"
The fucking gall on this guy.
