I will never not be upset at how badly the writers fumbled 2012 April 😠cool design, cool concept and they still were completely incapable of writing a teenage girl.
They just missed so many opportunities to make her more of her own character. In season 1, April does a bunch of investigation and even undercover work for the turtles, hinting at her usual journalist characterisation, only for the later seasons to just…like completely ignore it??? They gave her no hobbies, no personal interests which is such a shame considering she was a teen girl in the early 2010s meaning the possibilities are ENDLESS.
In my heart she’s a hunger games tumblr book nerd with a secret 1D obsession. Also into journalism and even writing stories.
I don’t even wanna address the love triangle lol that’s a mess on its own 😠What makes me sad is that we see over and over again how Donnie and April CAN WORK and CAN have their moments…but then for every step forward the writers took with them they took 10 steps back, with their dynamic being the exact same the next ep. tysm to @nerdy-turtle-enthusiast for their fixing apriltello works that I absolutely love
anyways short rant while I work on chapter 4 of mutant reign 😛
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HEY HEY TMNT FANDOM!! GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE MM / TOTTMNT BOYS AND GIVE THEM SOME LOVE!!
God this fandom has such a problem with favoritism it’s insane.
Give these boys some love DAMMNIT!!
The movie is fucking amazing and beautifully animated!
The show is fucking amazing, beautifully animated and has the most realistic teenage dialogue I’ve heard out of any TMNT.
Like seriously the chemistry the actors have together has taken TOTTMNT to a whole new level of fun and dynamic character interactions that is rarely seen. Not only do they feel like siblings but they feel like friends.
They are fleshed out and have had their own story arcs. The show is funny and has a balance of goofy and angsty. The boys have a healthy, emotional dynamic with eachother, while also having their individual flaws. The stories are so unique and the way the show flows is very well done.
And now it’s canceled, just like ROTTMNT. Mutant mayhem had an incredibly beautiful animated show with only 2 seasons that had so much story left to show.
So.. where’s the love, where’s the petitions, where’s the outrage, where’s the anger and determination.
You say rise got forgotten, there are less than 500 fics on AO3 for Tottmnt. Excluding t-cest, there’s more like 200.
WAKE THE FUCK UP AND SHOW SUPPORT FOR THIS INCREDIBLE SHOW.
You say you care so much about canceled Tmnt and bringing it back, but do nothing for TOTTMNT.
I’m sorry about ROTTMNT, I truly am. But it’s been 3 years, letting go is sometimes kinder than false hope.
You want to fight for something that has a better chance, fight for TOTTMNT. A recent cancellation, still fresh, still raw. This is what needs to be fought for, if this Tmnt lives on then the world expands, characters are brought back, another crossover movie could happen.
TOTTMNT STILL HAS A STORY TO TELL!
These boys barely got their time, they deserve better. They deserve what RISE never got, a second chance.
This is a cycle that the tmnt fandom has fallen into.
Old iteration canceled - new iteration begins - hate, pain and anger, - new iteration cancelled
Like how Tmnt has slowly been changing Leo and raphs argumentative relationship throughout the iterations,
We can change this generational divide in this fandom.
I don't care if people don't agree, it's my opinion, but as a huge fan who has watched (almost) every single iteration of these no longer teens, teenage adventures! Saturday mornings I would watch the original 1987 series on teletoon retro, then switch to whichever channel was showing the 2003 version.
In my opinion, the 2003 TMNT series had a lot of cool concepts and really focused on each of the brothers individual growth. I'm not usually a fan of Leo (I like him but not as much as other characters) but I liked Leo this series. The fact each turtle had a different mode of transportation was also a cool detail. Mikey used a skateboard, classic, while Raph- rollerblades, which fits him well because of his sais, he has to get up close and personal to fight which can be done easier on blades over a skateboard. Donnie used a bicycle, which again, fits him. A bike is timeless, dependable, and one of the easier things to use which lets Don focus on his inventions. Finally, Leo has a scooter. I don't have much to say about that since it seems more like a "what other thing can we give him?" And I personally can't think of anything either.
I also loved the fact that each turtle was a different shade of green, and how they found a way for shredder to keep coming back as a threat was cool too, on top of the fact that Shredder was more organized crime than ninja rival since he had the purple dragons under his thumb and hired Baxtor Stockman.
It was definitely darker than the original cartoon, (not the comics) but done in a way that was still appropriate for kids at the time. To this day I'll still randomly sit down and watch the series start to finish. Unfortunately, it makes some of the newer version seem less appealing. Like the 2012 version. I liked the first season and some of the second, but it felt like it was trying to use what the 2003 one did to be successful instead of coming up with new ideas after season two. The character designs were cool for some of the new mutants but it just wasn't right for me.
The Rise of (2019 version) cartoon was fun and explored different dynamics. It wasn't meant to be taken as seriously since I compared it to Teen Titans go, so it doesn't feel fair to compare that one.
Mutant Mayhem (2023 movie) reminded me of what I enjoyed about the 2003 (some things definitely bugged me but it was still a good movie!). This is because it took a different approach that was still possible within the universe and explored new dynamics again.
Another thing that came from the 2003 version was the 2007 movie, at least, it feels like it was heavily inspired by the dynamics and story within it while also acting as a continuation for the original live action movies (1990s) it also ended up with a Game Cube version of the game (my brother and I played it so much we could get through it without ever being hit by an enemy!) and if the 2007 doesn't count to some, I don't think we can forget about the Turtles Forever Movie. As someone who watched and liked the 1987 turtles, they definitely didn't do them justice in my opinion, but they were fun and added a funny dynamic between how people view cartoons from the 80s and cartoons from the 2000s.
I probably have more to say, but that's all I have for now! I will definitely be posting more TMNT content because they have been my favourites since I was little and still are to this day!
OH! HOW COULD I POST THIS AN NOT MENTION THE PUNS!!!
Everything had something related to turtles and it was amazing. Shell Cell, Battle shell, shell cycle, so on and so forth.
Honestly why does every iteration of Leo from TMNT have horrible love interest? Like they cannot give him a love interest that makes sense. I know ppl in the TMNT 2003 fandom ship him with Usagi but I felt so gross looking at that ship. Everything in the Usagi comics and in the TMNT shows makes him feel so much older than the boys in my mind. I can’t like that ship. ðŸ˜
And don’t get me started on Leo X Koya. Leo can only handle so much of Raph and his attitude what makes you think he would like to be with someone as rough and temperamental as Koya. Who, realistically, is much more angrier and violent than Raph!
Really the only one I kinda see is April and Leo from Mutant Mayhem but even then that’s a BIG maybe. Because realistically Leo only has a puppy crush and it’s so surface level. Anyways. Unserious rant outtt.
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okay BOOM!!!!! more asks. yes this is about tmnt by mundane ohhhh im so predictable . Oh and the ask list you just reblogged yknow the one
ANYWAYs!!!! (/nf) also if you wanna you can answer for different characters than I asked
ALSO THIS IS A LOT. LIKE A LOT!!! So if you don’t wanna answer all of them obviously you don’t have to (you don’t even have to answer ANY)
(Appearance)
3. Is there something about your character’s appearance they would change if possible? (Leo, Mikey)
5. character’s opinion on scars (Raph)
9. what does your character smell like? (April)
11. is your character’s favorite color a color they were often? (Casey)
16. Is your character’s appearance more telling or deceiving? (Donnie :3)
(object)
2. What gift would your character give to someone they didn’t like but felt obligated to? (Casey)
3. What type of object would catch your character’s attention? (Leatherhead cuz I’ve never asked about him before!)
8. what would I take for your character to give up an item they really like? (Leo)
9. does your character prefer to give or receive gifts? (Donnie, Mikey)
10. is there a type of object your character DOESN’T like? (Leo, Mikey)
11. what might an acquaintance think is a good gift for this character? (Mikey)
14. is there an object your character is embarrassed that they own or want? (Raph, Donnie)
16. Is your character willing to ask for things? (Leo, LITA I’ve also never asked abt)
ok ok I didn’t realize how long the list was LMAO I’ll split it into two different asks in case that makes it easier but IM SO SORRY ITS SO LONG YOU DONT HAVE TO ANSWER ALL OR ANY T_T
YAYAYAYAYAY!!! :3 answering these asks may take a while
okay, first one!!
3. Is there something about your character’s appearance they would change if possible? (Leo, Mikey)
I'm gonna start with Mikey since I haven't thought very much about Leo :P
mikey is a little self conscious of his stripes, he wouldn't get rid of them (maybe), but if he could he'd change the ones on his legs.
I made some art to illustrate my point since I realized I've never drawn Mikey in clothes (or lack there of) that show off all his stripes!!
he's doing a hand stand because I can't draw characters standing normally for the life of me, not super proud of the posing tho. (plus he likes doing gymnastics while also tying in some elements of ballet from Leo :] )
if you compare the ones on his legs to his face and shoulders you'll see the lines are a lot more "wobbly" he's a little self conscious of that but he can survive. what he would change for sure is his wacky knee. his left knee was injured pretty badly when he was younger and if he would want to fix his knee since it's a little weaker than his right knee, not by a whole lot but enough to get annoyed by.
as for Leo, he's shy and generally self conscious but he wouldn't actually change anything about himself......... except for one thing: the tattoos..............
Casey has always been a bit of a bad influence, so when he was 13 (Leo 12, raph 11, Donnie 13) and he found out about stick and poke tattoos he very quickly told raph and Donnie, both curious and thinking it was cool, but not wanting to be the first subject, but Leo was okay with it after some convincing.
but once Casey decided he wanted to try getting a tattoo after "practicing" with Leo he very quickly realized that tattoos hurt, especially if you let Donnie do it.
Casey now has a little dot on his back and Leo now has a little lighting bolt tattoo on his shoulder near the edge of his shell and a smiley face between his shoulder and his bicep.
Leo's tattoo's are normally hidden under his shirt and splinter still has yet to find out about these tattoo's :) but yeah, Leo would get rid of his tattoos and Mikey would make his stripes more appealing and uniform.
5. character’s opinion on scars (Raph)
since my last one was a little rant-y I'll try to answer shortly!! but I'm a rant-y mood :P
for a long while raph didn't have much contact with scars, major scars at least, for a little while when he was younger he didn't fully process the fact the scars were from injuries, he thought of scars in a similar manner to birth marks.
but then he bit Mikey a little too hard and messed up Mikeys knee. after that he began to associate scars with injuries a lot more closely, not only that but he associated scars with his own failings.
casey shook that idea a little bit with his many scars while he's like "-and this one? I got it on a hike, nearly cracked my head open...." while acting like it's the coolest thing ever.
what really got raph to fully understand that scars are fine is the end of arc 1. Donnie get's pretty beat up, and raph learned to like scars after finding that he much preferred seeing donnie's injuries become scars rather than continue to be infected and bleeding.
9. what does your character smell like? (April)
body odor. and after she meets the turtles body odor and sewer water.
her BO isn't the most noticeable, especially compared to the turtles and Casey but her dominant scent is body odor with probably some scent of whatever she ate that day, sometimes you could catch a hint of vanilla from her deodorant but you get the gist of it.
11. is your character’s favorite color a color they were often? (Casey)
yes! his favorite color is green! all he wears is green. except after arc 2 and 3 he branches out a bit due to lore reasons ( >:D )
16. Is your character’s appearance more telling or deceiving? (Donnie :3)
uhhhhh I'm not sure, I feel like it suits him pretty well, especially documenting his growth over the arcs! I'm not sure what else I can say without too many spoilers :P
objects
2. What gift would your character give to someone they didn’t like but felt obligated to? (Casey)
flannel 🤤
not really, he prefers all the flannel for himself /silly he'd either get nothing (he's not good at obligations) or candy of some kind, or maybe just a nice card :]
(just like what his dad get's him every year)
3. What type of object would catch your character’s attention? (Leatherhead cuz I’ve never asked about him before!)
dresses!! he like dresses but he's too shy to actually wear any (at least in public)
he also probably likes music boxes! he's learned how to fix music boxes and enjoys collecting them, though he's not exactly in a situation where he can so he usually ends up giving away most of his music boxes that he fixes.
oh! he also loves alligators and crocodiles so anything like that will catch his eye!
8. what would It take for your character to give up an item they really like? (Leo)
hrmmmmm I need to think about this more, I plan to come back to this but if I post this without answering this just know that I forgot :[
9. does your character prefer to give or receive gifts? (Donnie, Mikey)
both of them have a weird relationship with gifts. Donnie doesn't care much either way, he can get his own stuff and he mostly gives gifts out of obligation..... at least in arc 1
in arc 2 Donnie feels embarrassed about receiving gifts and mostly gives gifts to the others as an apology almost,
but during arc 3 he learns to genuinely enjoy seeing his friends and family smile because of something he did or gave them, while still not seeing too much point in gifts of obligation, but he really values meaningful gifts, such as a pair of tonfa he stole received from someone special.
mikey's "weird relationship with gifts" is primarily based on his place as the youngest child and also in the sewers, which means: 90% of the time he assumes any gifts given to his brothers he has access to, at least after a day or two.... at most...
either way the turtles have a bit of a culture of sharing, Donnie dislikes this culture by arc 1 but the other four and Casey largely allow it or embrace it, sleeping in each other's rooms, having access to each other's stuff, and therefore having access to each other's gifts.
mikey embraces and encourages this culture of sharing so he doesn't care much whether he's giving or receiving, he'll have access to it anyways. but by arc 3 he enjoys receiving gifts due to..... lore reasons..... that forcibly changes this culture of sharing.
10. is there a type of object your character DOESN’T like? (Leo, Mikey)
so, Leo! as stated before, he's very flexible and very open to pretty much anything, just observing, so he doesn't have a lot of things he really doesn't like, he has things he likes and things he's open to being convinced to like.
after arc 2 though he sees things in a different light (lore reasons) and is now constantly looking for whether or not an object is "safe," so he dislikes knifes without a safe place to put them and a sheath, glass tables, sharp corners on furniture, large wardrobes that aren't bolted to the wall, etc. also after arc 2 he really really really doesn't like sticky, gooey, slightly slimey things, and especially not spider webs, those fake Halloween spiderwebs are even worse.
as for Mikey........... I haven't thought too much about it...... and since this is getting a little long I'm gonna skip this part and think about it more later. :D
11. what might an acquaintance think is a good gift for this character? (Mikey)
tbh an acquaintance might think art supplies or hand wraps/tape would be good, since he seems like a really artsy person but art is second at best to gymnastics and such.
what he'd really like actually would be roller skates! (that fit him ofc) I feel like he'd really enjoy roller skating if given the chance!
14. is there an object your character is embarrassed that they own or want? (Raph, Donnie)
hrmmmm I feel like donnie would refuse to get embarrassed over anything, he's stubborn and defensive when it comes to embarrassment so anything he has that could be considered embarrassing he probably simply refuses to get embarrassed.
raph is probably a little embarrassed about Casey's hat that he got for his birthday, not necessarily just from owning it, but he's a little embarrassed about the reverence he treats it with, but he feels like it means too much to treat it any worse.
16. Is your character willing to ask for things? (Leo, LITA I’ve also never asked abt)
I feel like Leo is willing to ask for things, usually he's not the most direct about it, but if he has assessed the entire situation properly and feels like it would be better to ask for help than to not than he'd be willing to ask for help, 100%
lita!!! YAYAYAYAY I love lita :3 she'd be reluctant to genuinely ask for help. she's the kind of friend that would die for you, that you've known for years, the type of friend you'd marry for legal purposes, but when you actually think about it you don't know her favorite color, what she does when you're not together, what she struggles with, hell if Lita is even her real name or if it's a nickname! which means: she's okay with being friends with people, she doesn't push them away, not by a long shot! but she doesn't let them actually know her.
I got a little off track but basically: Lita doesn't want to ask for help, because she doesn't want anyone to know her well enough to 1. know her issues, 2. know she needs help with her issues, and 3. know how to help her
YAYAYAYAY!!!! thank yew for the ask(s) so excited to answer the other 2 you sent >:3 hope you enjoyed!!!! I did not read through this so it may not make much sense/have some mistakes :P thank you!!!
so you know how season 5 is mid af and should not exist?? like they had no ideas at all- and the mutant apocalypse au pisses me off bc tf you mean they can grow hair? tf you mean they look like that- ATHEY DID LEO DIRTY-
MEENWHILE, WE COULD HAVE HAD BETTER THINGS, MAYBE NOT LORE STRUCTURED BUT FAN SERVICE-Y (and ik the main demographic was yung boys but idc)
Musical episode
i would have loved to see an episode where they all sing, ik the songs would be mid if they hired the wrong ppl, but come on- HAVE YOU HEARD ROBB'S VOCALS?? they should have pulled a musical in swellview thing on gawd- like it could have been one of baxters failed voice changers or enhancers, so they gotta find it and deeactivate it-
HUMAN TURTLES
... ok this would have caused controvercy BUT COME ON- we only got that once canonicaly and i refuse to think abt those shorts-
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS DIIISSS- THEY DID DONN ESSPECIALY DIRTY- LIKE-
in the 2012 version, they could have used splinters features when he was human and just soften them, maybe even skintone dyversity, and i know it would cause hate and stuff, but come onn, dont you agree?... i gotta design some of my own one of these days-
Fully filler ep
not just a pointless adventure that dont do shit to the lore like with usagi or sum- im talking like- we get to see what the turtles' day to day life is like, what they do when they arent on missions, how they coped, greived and lived after the canon was over and they had nothing to do- we kinda had that in the beebop and rocksteady special- but it was short lived-
so yuh, thats a few things they could have done- i would have personaly made that... wish i coule just make it myself-... any way, if you have any ideas, repost this and say what you think lol-
Okay this is something I just now realized but why the hell did 2012 try to compare Leo and Raph's relationship to that of Shredder and Splinter to begin with??
I ask this because if I'm not mistaken, Splinter and Shredder's beef was because both wanted to be inside of a woman and that led to the most petty ass fight imaginable. Meanwhile the only time Raph and Leo ever fought over a girl was Raph telling Leo to fuck off from Karai, not because he was simping for her but because he genuinely didn't trust her and believed she was a horrible person. And Leo never also told Raph that him being attracted to Mona was weird because he wanted her but because he just found it weird.
What I'm getting at is, both rivalries are completely different and are barely alike. I feel like the only reason they are compared is due to Shredder and Raph having the same temper and jealousy towards Splinter and Leo. But still man those jealousies and anger are completely different. ðŸ˜