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thought about post-canon Falin visiting a recovering Thistle and insisting on bringing them little treats to share together because their dragon's presence is the only thing that drives them to want to eat.
He had maintained control over his dungeon for so long, too long for it all to just come crumbling down. Amidst everything else and the search for Delgal, Thistle didnāt know what to make of of the dragonās new behavior.
They chased ghosts, together and apart.
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What if we were both magic prodigies and it otherized us in different ways and we devoted ourselves to protecting a family member who has general other goals & priorities. What if we both did self-sacrifical devotion in opposite ways.
What if we were dark mirrors of each other and where I've grown
overcontrolling you've grown complacent. What if, bought as a servant into a pretty loving home, ownership and control is what love looks like to me, and to you neglected and lonely growing up, love is gratefully taking any scraps of it youāre lent.
By belonging to someone, even if she comes back injured or fails at finding Delgal, she feels like she belongs and is cherished, by owning someone he feels safe in them not leaving him.
Sheās whatās tethering him do you see⦠And heās the only thing giving her direction and purpose in her state. She needs a compass and he needs a support.
Theyāre both so out of it š Itās the weirdly intense and unearned mutual trust and reliance on each other?? Theyāre each otherās weird little comfort codependent teddy bear. Or at least they were headed towards that before SHE DIED THEN HE DIED THEN THEY BOTH FORGOT ABOUT EACH OTHER AND NEVER MET EVER AGAIN. Though sheās also the guard attack hound keeping him safe⦠And vice versa he heals her and can rewrite her very being with just one wave of his hand. Theyāre both so so mentally and physically vulnerable both but they cling onto each other. They canāt perceive things accurately but despite it all someway somehow they stumble into something closer to resembling companionship just before they both die. Falin is just that kind and Thistle is just that lonely. Overworked.
We both havenāt lived for ourselves in a very long time, havenāt we.
They both have a similar devotion to the people they love but again the difference is that Thistle starts overtsepping while Falin is self-effacing. The other difference between them is that people care about Falin <3 People have given up on Thistle long ago, and he has given people reasons to, while people refuse to give up on Falin. Yaad has a mini arc about it dw about it itās ok heās not all alone in the end šš He reached out for Marcilleās hand but they already all wanted to help him, they just had to be given the chance to, Yaad just had to be given the chance to, itās okay Iām okay
Hey what if we learned to get in touch with our own identity and the world around us and living in the present again through being in the worst codependent situationship ever.
Falin and Thistle sitting in a tree, sucking on flowers together because theyāre h-u-n-g-r-yĀ ššš
I bet heās only ever thought of flowers as useless ornaments. Weak weeds. But she shows him theyāre tasty and useful and good and pretty in their own right too and deserve existing without proving their worth and waaa <33 Thistlesā¦... Did you know thistles taste sweet if you remove the thorns and eat them?
"Even as a chimera, her kind nature remains" you canāt suppress her in the way that matters. You canāt soothe him in the way that matters. Itās doomed. Youāre doomed. Itās all doomed. Save me.
Chil doodles from a Magma board with the dunmeshblr discord. Chil nation gets stronger everydayā¦
I cropped & erased in case others donāt want theirs posted but @chaospikes is my buddy and theyāre the one who did the pink lineart doodles!
Just my narrative of Thistle & Falin, collection of shippy thoughts and dynamic analysis. Creating some imagery and threads, etc.
What if we both made devotion to our loved ones our purpose, what if we both hadnāt lived for ourselves in a long, long time. Who are we? Beyond who we love and our powers, what are we?
Background info: a short Falin analysis touching on Faligon and Thistle + an old thistlin post, compiling most of their moments. Here I delve into further thoughts but for base analysis of what they have in canon and in potential those are good starts. If you want I also have a full Falin analysis.
Disclaimer: Beyond the nebulous 1000 years I place Thistle as a young adult, and though I agree Falin mothers him to some degree I donāt think itās unsimilar to the way that Marcille is a mom friend that sometimes mothers Falin and Izutsumi especially. Their relationship has layers like every other one in Dunmeshi, reducing it to being incestuously motherly or age discoursy to justify it being problematic is so funny to me, hello did you miss the mind control. Ah yes I love the 1090 yo with godlike powers being groomed by his chicken slave. You can have your own interpretation but canon is ambiguous enough, and dare I say intentionally ambiguous, that I have no qualms with not infantilizing Thistle, same with Yaad at the end of canon. I do ship Thistle and Falin, and although itās in a nebulous qpr-or-other third secret thing situationship instead of conventionally romantic way, like, I puke on anything giving them a parental framing so donāt come shitting on my doorstep, kid-Thistle truthers be warned. Only nuance enjoyers allowed on this post. Itās valid if youāre uncomfortable with the ship!! Donāt make your issue othersā problem.
I thankfully finished my Falin analysis before posting this, but besides that I also have an analysis coming on the whole Thistle age thing which I think is interesting, beyond the well being poisoned there are things to explore there, idk in how long thatāll be done though. Thatās all for plans that are relevant to this, now letās get into it.
Part 1
So my favorite Falin things are Faligon + her sense of being like a pawn/misplaced, going on autopilot to follow the wishes of others, a feeling of identity being a burden and sort of fleeing from that, and her not really caring in the way/with the intensity that sheās "supposed" to (as per the points I go over in my Falin analysis). Meanwhile, Thistle has a lot of shit going on already but then thereās also how being a dungeon lord is highly wearing on his mind.
As Faligon and as dungeon lord Thistle, the way theyāre both so out of touch with reality in different ways holy shit?? They have power imbalance between them and it very much comes from mind control lol, but itās also not something Thistle is fully aware of himself, because the powers are driving him unstable and heās not even aware thereās someone in front of him really. Heās so out of it that he canāt even recognize that the dragon has been fused with a human and sheās so out of it we canāt even tell how conscious of her actions she is.
And then the interesting thing is that theyāre kind of in it together⦠Mostly from Falinās standpoint. We see that he does rely on the dragon increasingly so, hanging out with it, being saved by it and embraced by her etc. When he lets them both fall after breaking the web they were hanging from, he automatically, fully and wordlessly trusts her to catch him, instead of relying on magic or anything, and she does. Falin devotes herself to him but heās devoted to The Cause which is just chasing ghosts at this point.
But despite it all thereās a weird comfort here too⦠From the guy who in his last moment of lucidity reached out for someone, anyoneās hand, from the guy who hasnāt felt companionship in hundreds of years probably, hasnāt taken it slow and slept and eaten in who knows how long, from the girl who feels compelled to care after him like sheās always done with others⦠And the beast-ness allows her to have some freedom to figure herself out in a weird way, to simply enjoy being beside someone and doing anything her own whims tell her to.
Itās very destructive and weird and layered but likeā¦. I can see the sliver where it works out. Where her kindness reaches him and he has a moment of lucidity where he sees her and itās like, wait, who are you, youāre not the dragon?? Where finding someone else who feels just as messed up and devoted as them, like theyāre just trudging along life like itās a dream following their loved one, heals them a bit. Where caring for the other becomes a way to care for themselves too, a dark mirror of each other that shows you, oh, this is how bad it can get and I want to choose something else for myself actually. To grow to see the person standing in front of you, instead of only searching with your eyes in what way theyāll reflect on you. In helping each other, finding some companionship thatās weirdly vulnerable and self-healing.
He gets her in touch with herself and her own needs again through the arc and conflict they have, and she gets him in touch with the world and his surroundings again. They have clashing ways to be selfless, very self-sacrificial from Falin meanwhike self-centered with Thistle (he āknows bestā, āeverything needs to be left to himā, etc etc, he needs the control, but he does it all for others, meanwhile Falin leaves that control to others and only grabs it for herself in exceptional cases like sacrificing herself to the dragon for Laios).
Like just let yourself be, damn!!! So then them being like, zombie mentally stunted babies kind of enhances that theme in a way too lol. The way they communicate together is very⦠Instinctive and basic, and Iād love to see how it could develop into a functional dynamic.
Theyāre in ālearning to be your own personā kindergarten together to me. Thistle looking at her coloring wildly outside the lines and being like "youāre doing it wrong" and then you look at his and he colored everything a weird color. The precision is scary but then his crayon goes 1 mm out of the lines and he blows up into tears. Ok the metaphor has run its course
So yeah like the ship/brotp is very, them being isolated and against the world together and like⦠Slowly regaining their minds together. Getting their sense of identity grounded into them again.
In my mind they have a 50k words adventure where they hang out and he slowly realizes thereās more to her than just dragon and she encourages him to dawdle around and eventually just play in water and shit and itās like, starting to see life again beyond the laser focus you limited yourself to⦠And sheās allowed to just chill out and do whatever she wants besides the whole searching for Delgal thing. You canāt tie down a dragon!
They are a duo they are an unitā¼ļø Heād have been fucked without her and at this point in time he sort of made her and heās her world. Traumabonded kittens do not separate but itās onesided in different ways haha. Honestly itās sort of reflavored mickuro wait fuckā¦
If nothing else, theyāre a very interesting dynamic to ponder. The depths of it all⦠I want to use them as a social experiment. I want them to stop to smell at the flowers and learn to work togetherā¦
Theyāre master and servant theyāre owner and pet theyāre mothering and mothered (in a guardian hound way, in a mom friend way) theyāre both incredibly (emotionally and physically) vulnerable in different waysā¦ā¦ Master and monster if you will. Mostly I see them as guardian & leader.
Like I said I ship them but itās not really romantic atp I think but itās not quite qpr either itās truly a weird secret third thing⦠What if we were sort of coworkers but also ?!!!>??????! You should hate me but you fiercely protect me I should appreciate you but I only see you as a tool WHAT IS GOING ONNN IN THERE
He wants to be protected even if he canāt really admit it. Here the catalyst was emotional distress moreso than physical threat. Notice how he lays there under her wing for a bit as he (refuses to) processes what Mithrun told him about Delgal dying and betraying him. Sheās becoming his safety net, his comfort hound. Somehow, the both of them find theyāre soothed in each otherās presence.
It kills me. Them being so toxic at the start of it, then somehow ambiguously just hinting towards how things could have went on to be better, could have been headed somewhere nice and healing and healthier, she dies and he dies everyone fucking dies and they forget each other and it ends there they never speak of each other again. Canon wanted me dead specifically. Like remember too that I was there when the last chapters where being released, my ass really was like "Oh I wonder how Falin will react seeing Thistle after being revived!" š¤”
But yess at least that means thereās a lot of Unsaid, a lot of space for speculation, and I want to see what could have been. I want to see it so so bad. Itās so interesting
Post-canon is also so interesting, where theyāre sort of recovered but not fully not really, them actually getting to know each other⦠And she doesnāt remember him but he doesnāt remember her either, in a way theyāve never met even though they have, even though she was the first one on his side since so long, the first hint of companionship heās had, companionship that heās so unused to getting that he canāt even recognize it for what it is.
He couldnāt even recognize a human standing in front of him!! He is so disconnected from others and the world!! He spoke to ghosts like they had no worries in the world and everyone was ok!! Heās out of touch, tone-deaf af!! Has always been tone-deaf!! Being tone-deaf when he was younger, a stick in the mud, caused him to be more isolated than he already was⦠Autism4autism, anywaysā
Itās them not knowing why or how to express it but being drawn together, a bond forged together by the fire of circumstances and coincidencesā or is it only that? No one can know for certain but thereās a grip they have on each other there somehow. Weird distant caring thing. I dont know who you are but I feel like I should know you
Itās like my headcanon that she doesnāt know why, but on her travels she feels something when she comes across wild thistle flowers⦠There are just faint remnants, whispers of feelings like ghosts.
They should be remnants in each otherās lives. A deja vu of a person in the way Falin hugs small dolls to her chest, or how Thistle reminisces of something when he sees bird feathers discarded on the ground. < This paragraph courtesy of @cabinetteās huge brain
He canonically writes poems btw⦠Poems would be such a good way for him to get in touch with himself again post-canon, find desires in again and get creative fulfillment. He should make poems about her. To explore and vent and express all the vague feelings and memories he has, both those of during canon and after canon. He doesnāt remember her but he remembers her, slivers of kind eyes and warm gentle hands and healing magic like a blanketā¦
Yaad, an unlicensed therapist but the best you're gonna get in fantasy land: Maybe you should try journaling.
And too the thing is their relationship with each other in a way is ONLY about themselves, even when Falin is being self-sacrifical itās less about him and more about how she generally is, that sort of instinct to latch onto someone and just follow along with whatever they do and ask, meanwhile to Thistle sheās only ever been a factor in his plans. Idk idk them getting to that point where they see and know each other, stumbling into that through canon or actively working towards it post-canon, thereās weird beauty in that
Like. Thistle cares about her because heāll take anyone as long as they fit the job description well enough, heās desperate to find Delgal and will grasp at straws to find him. In a similar way that heāll reach for someone, anyoneās hand on the verge of death, she seeks to protect someone, anyone. Thatās how she centers herself, makes someone her compass and her world. Falin wants to protect someone and Thistle would use anyone, pushed to the states they were in they would latch onto anyone for comfort (caring for him, grabbing Marcilleās hand).
Mirrors truly truly. And Thistle likes to shatter those, and silence anyone who tries to talk to him about reality, so then the option left is to be by him quietly and subtly gradually, gently (her specialty) nudge him in the right direction
⦠Nooo but actually why did he shatter those mirrors. Very interesting to think about. Would seeing himself in others anger him?
I like to call him a ghost of who he was sometimes, a ghost of the past, heās so haunted, and I think thereās fun imagery there too. The care she offers Thistle somewhat reminds me of the one she offers ghosts. I wonder if part of it is that she sees herself in ghosts, that she wants to offer them freedom and peace of mind she canāt get for herself.
And of course meanwhile on her end, the thistlin arc is also about growing self-respect. I donāt want to see Thistle as a lost cause in saying that her efforts are wasted on him, but being so permissive and invested in him is obviously not healthy for her. She needs to learn when to put her foot down
Oooh, just realized that choosing to eat in this scene was a big character moment all things considered. By eating she faltered in her task, stood up for herself and her needs, was selfish for once (/positive go get your damn food girl). She chose to eat. Anyways
I bet heās the one who healed her wounds after the Shuro party fight. And on that noteā itās interesting he could change her form from Falin to Faligon without touching her isnāt it? Healing by everyone else like Marcille and Falin always required touch, physical contact between the healer and healee, which some like Chilchuck say is a negative, but⦠The dungeon lord not needing to touch to heal makes a nice metaphor for how isolating the powers are I think. Truly clinical instead of warm. Theme of community and freely offering affection in Dungeon Meshi etc etc. Like I said, Thistle is out of touch.
The way that he has the powers to change her form and heal and like soo much magic power but he canāt even realize when heās hurting himself and sheās the one who has to heal him. Heās so fully devoted to the cause even when he acts selfishly that he neglects himself too, and she has to remind him to take care of himself, to eat, etc. That she feeds him.
Eating is an act of love to yourself and to life. The berries, the curry, the soup that Thistle refuses to eatā
Do you see the vision. Do you see all the narrative relevance and themes and parallels of their dynamic. To chase ghosts, to cling onto them so they stay with you no matter how warped and ugly they get, and to soothe souls, purifying them and helping them depart for the afterlife⦠Both magic prodigies whose lives revolve around protecting and caring after their loved ones more than anything else. A family member who looks elsewhere while they are their whole world. They can flee their emotional issues together š¤
Who are we? Beyond who we love and our power, what are we? I think about the way she cradled him in her arms just before they fell down into the dungeon all the time idk idk
^ End notes from the one fic I wrote about them so far: Slivers, on AO3.
For a moment, they were both slivers of themselves, bound together.
Thistle feverishly holding onto ghosts of the past and his source of power, meanwhile Falin cradles the people she can protect in the now with the powers that reside in her⦠Him cradling his book, her cradling her masterā¦ā¦ā¦ Parallels
Interlude
And yess itās important to remember too, Thistle became a mage only after delgal asked⦠He had innate talent, but moreso than Falin itās through studies that he learned to actually harness his magic etc. Idk I think itās an interesting parallel that could have interesting stuff be done on it.
People often characterize him as predominantly bratty but. Heās smart and composed heās mainly smart and composed⦠Heās unstable and everything during canon was happening all at once with the winged lion being freed and Laiosā party and the canaries and agh </3 He can have a meltdown as a treat heās smart and cool-headed if it wasnāt for the dungeon wearing on his mind ok⦠Obvi I love my chars with anger issues but saying heās overly childish is having tunnel vision I think
Ok so the elephant in the room⦠First of all how present is Falin in Falugon exactlyā¦ā¦ We have no clue. The end sequence does show her in purgatory with a dragon foot holding her down, which can easily be read as it suppressing her personality- with how itās shown though it feels like sheād be fully suppressed by that? And we know thatās not the case, since not only does she recognize Laios and calls out to him, she hesitates to hurt Kuro because of the dog association, sheās excessively kind towards Thistle, the latter which her Adventurerās Bible profile confirm to be "her kind nature remaining as the chimera". Maybe itās a dream-like state? Maybe the dragon is the driving force with the instincts, and itās only bits of Falin and her personality that show through? A state of mind very primal and not very think-y, even if Falin has enough brains to think of sharing the berries, gesturing and oh- of course, casting magic. No issues with controlling the human half of her body as well. To some degree, her and the dragon are working in tandem.
My own preferred interpretation is the driven by instincts one, a state of mind like an actual dragonās, which in my Falin analysis I delve into the significance of it for other parts of Dunmeshi too. So yeah, dreamlike mindless autopilot⦠I think exploring her pov as Faligon would go super hard. Aware of her surroundings but sort of disconnected with it, and disconnected from herself too, entirely living in the present⦠And like with her talking to Laiosā the only time she speaks in her chimera form, a simple observation, "Laios, brother", sometimes her human thoughts peek through more sharply, short moments of lucidity⦠I think itād be interesting to see an arc where as the chimera, she learns to share the "brainspace" more with the dragon.
Itās also unclear if Thistle had a say in how much of āFalin the humanā is in control? He very well might have suppressed her somehow when he changed her form to be more dragonlike. That might also be due to just getting back the dragon meat thoughā and the dragon meat itself might be why/how the brainspace is shared. There is a lot less of Falinās body in the chimera than there is of the dragon, body mass wise. Dungeon Meshi is a lot about physicality so I wouldnāt be surprised with this reasoning. But thereās the whole mind control soul bond situation tooā¦
The mind bond is another thing thatās left mostly to interpretation when it comes to the details. She feels compelled to listen to the dungeon lordās orders as a monster created and owned by it, like the dragons Thistle summoned during the fight at his house, but again like we see with the dragons, if the monster has a "strong will" it can disobey to some level without being punished by the bind or anything. The eyes of the magician, the small wyverns, level-of-control wise canāt be accurate examples because theyāre sort of like familiars, Thistle can see through their eyes in real time no matter where they are but itās only this species as far as we know. So otherwise the mind bond is more subtle⦠Thereās also the question of how much the control is shared between the dungeon lord and the demon, which again Thistleās situation is exceptional because he managed to seal his demon in a book, presumably all the power goes through Thistle without the intermediate of the winged lion, though we do see he has some reach since he reaches Laios through his dreams.
ANYWAYS all that to say. I do really ponder about how a dungeon lord's monsters get their orders, like... For the fight on the first floor, did Falin just feel Thistle's agony in her bones and came clawing and barging her way in desperately and angrily to protect him because of his distress, or did he more directly demand she come, consciously or not?! Idk, since Falin is actively protective of him unlike the dragons who reluctantly listen to him, her being very fast and intense about it doesnāt have to be forced⦠Itād be interesting if she can sense his feelings, wants or thoughts, bc I donāt think itās as conscious as like, telepathically communicating "hey you, do this"ā¦? Pondering, pondering. Mind bond <3 Soulbound <3
Theyāre both very trapped in the past⦠I wonder if as Faligon a lot of her mind goes back to memories of Laios and such, if sheās in a dreamlike state and not just sort of absent, where would her mind retreat... I donāt think so like I said I think sheās mostly driven by dragonlike mindlessness, but still⦠Thistle stuck in the search of Delgal, thinking back to everything theyāve shared and where it all went wrong obsessively, and Falin, sort of larping that sheās still beside Laios, not unlike how Thistle treats having the corpses of the royal family at his house like them being safe. Delusions. Idk I just want more character studies.
The metaphors in this truly⦠Itās not literal, like def not something that happens during canon at no point are they or could be ever atop a mountain of frames and paintings of the Golden Kingdomās royal family and fine art lmaoo, so then like the meaning behind it all⦠She offers him reprieve, an outsider from all the Golden Kingdom expectations and drama, just someone warm to lean on, someone whoāll stayā¦ā¦..
I love Faligon pushing him to rest and nap so much. Man has first nap in a thousand years. Feather duvet like a nice warm pillow. The peace she offers him manā¦ā¦. Live in the present bbygirl
Unfortunately it doesn't help. Look at them eyebags⦠Man needs to sleep!!
Part 2
^ This panels drives me crazy
Itās the possessivity. Itās the "my". Itās the "stealing".
What if you have fear of abandonment and think you have to prove your worth for people to stay by your side. What if belonging to someone makes you feel like you belong and you feel loved and soothed by it lowkey, feel like it makes things easy.
What if I was bought as a slave and servant but I was adopted into a pretty loving family. What if ownership is what love looks like to me. What if thatās why I have no problem rationalizing keeping people against their will in a glorified kingdom-prison, because thatās just what someone with the power who Knows Better does, and⦠Did he always call her his dragon hello? Feelings
He is not letting it go damn
He hates when people mess with what's his. Or Delgalās.
But imagine. The dragon is like, the last thing he has. The Golden Kingdom has moved on from him, everything is shit, but his dragon is the last thing he still has some realm of like. Ownership over. But that ownership is kinda just his sense of belonging. His role, his duty.Ā Ā So itās like "Donāt steal the last thing I have" especially if post-canon⦠Itās thinking from his time as a jester bought into a loving family that ownership is natural in love and care. Itās thinking thatās the way you get to belong beside someone, beside earning that through achievements and being useful and capable.
Everything is being stolen away from him. Control and things and people and even the importance he has to the Golden Kingdom as he becomes part of the background & past history and the kingdom switches into new hands aka Laiosāā¦
My dragon, not the dragon. I do like to imagine especially after the berries heās starting to feel differently about her. He keeps being like "youāre acting odd, dragon". His dragon is special. Sheās not just another regular monster npc to easily replace, thereās human contact in there. His dragon just for him. <3
I do think Falin has some issues with like, asking to be with the people she loves, feeling safe in asking for that, that sheās worth that. She follows them and is quiet and just takes the crumbs of love that they offer, she doesnāt ask Marcille at the academy to spend lunches with her, doesnāt ask anything of her distant busy father and ill anxious mother⦠The person she did ask things of, Laios, who she always asked to go travel the world with him and whatnot, left her behind. Like how Delgal left Thistle. Theme of leaving </3 theme of family and abandonment issues </3
So she just follows and cares after them and makes herself useful and is grateful she gets to be beside them at all. So yeah what Iām saying is being owned/belonging to someone might feel yeah like, belonging. Being One Person's. Heās seen her at her worst and most bloody and raw, and still wants her? Very comforting
And especially post-canon he doesnāt need her to be witty or useful or such, he just needs her love and thatās what she has lots to give.
Do you think Falin wants to be needed⦠Do you think sheās a little restless if she doesnāt feel like she is, like she thinks just like Laios people might leave you behind and you never see them again.Ā
Itās also because of what she said, that she put others before herself, that she just followed/imprinted on her parents/Laios/Marcille. She avoided conflict, she wanted to be liked and live in peace. The only times she was selfish, she hurt people (left school for Laios, sacrificed herself for them, teleported them out despite possibly hurting people on the surface), so she chooses to be selfless instead. "One of the most selfish things i've ever done was barely even for the sake of myself" - Falin and Toshiro both hah
Falin is often told she doesnāt care the right way or not enough, youāre cutting classes Falin, Iām upset you left me and you donāt even seem to think itās a big deal Falin, you shouldnāt have sacrificed yourself to save me (her not noticing her ostracization in her village wasnāt told to her but Iām including it also). And with Toshiro when considering her proposal, she was worried to accept because yeah itās have been convenient but she wouldnāt be reciprocating his feelings in the way he wants and expected her to with what he asked of her⦠And sheās worried it wouldnāt be right⦠Bc she doesnāt care about the proposal on the same level he doesā¦.. I just think thatās neat I think that Falin caring both too little and too much, with laser focus on Laios & Marcille neglecting even herself, is a big part of her. She focuses on others and their emotional needs so so much always, babygirl be selfish for a whileā¦
Thistleās interaction with Laios is interesting too, especiaoly when Kaios heals him. How he looks at his shoulder, surprised and confused⦠Guy who's used to not having his personal needs met because he's so busy doing everything for the people he cares about receives care??? Woah thatās crazy
Something something being so unused to human contact and affection that you donāt know how to process it and donāt recognize it when it happens/stares you right in the face. Thistle the Toudens are gonna make you open up ur heart to humans again on godā¦
What if⦠He doesnāt want to admit sheās not the dragon. If he admits itās not the dragon that means giving up some control⦠This was not in his plan, he doesnāt know how well he can control a chimera rather than a dragon, itās weakness itās vulnerability itās feeling like heās losing his grip on everything again and thus losing his place and purpose. Hmmā¦
Finding yourself through someone else⦠Because defining yourself through others is what youāve always done⦠Yeah. Yeah.
I do love it tying into Falinās arc of finding herself. Like, she doesnāt remember her time as a chimera, she just remembers this guy she has conflicted but fond feelings of for some reason, so say if they travel post-canon, traveling with him would also be a way to figure out more how sheās feeling, and then thereās how when looking at him she gets the feeling that itās been a long time he hasnāt lived for himself eitherā¦
And like for him traveling is about seeing the world a bit too. Seeing it not as something to control or always dangerous but something to explore, and just enjoy the little things instead of worrying about the court. And just. Aghhhh. He hasnāt had someone on his side for centuries. Sighs. Of course Yaad also becomes that largely but traveling post-canon with Falin⦠Would love to see that in fancontent
Them growing to SEE each other, with the film in front of their eyes slowly fading away. Both of them coming out of it more genuine than theyād been even before meeting, before becoming warped,Ā growing more comfortable in their skin and with the thought of connecting with others.
Itās the mutual care <33 itās having been on each otherās side at both your ugliest <3 Unconventional caring...
Toshiro saying "you canāt tie down a dragon" is always so good⦠Someone should so do stuff with that. "But you can tame it" / "I tried to once" / "but she chose to stay with me anyways"⦠Musical theme of How to Train your Dragon starts playing in the distance
When/after they get together, I feel like their relationship isnāt something they like to label⦠If anything itās like. Partner. Or calling each other by name⦠Him calling her my dragon, except now itās warm and personal would be so. Aughh <3 But then that just also makes the first time he calls her by name so huge.
Conclusion
They and their relationship is weird and unusual but thatās just how they are, and how they need to accept themselves (again: as they are) and roll with it! And make a place in the world for them anyways!
Magic forced them to be vulnerable in front of each other but itās them who have to like⦠Be pushed out of their passivity and do something with that vulnerability.
BROTHERSSS THEYāRE BOTH ALL ABOUT BROTHERS. LEAVING. OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. OUT OF TOUCH WITH THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN IDENTITY. In a twisted way only the other would understand what itās like.
Thistlin is so crazy, in humanizing you it humanizes me, in recognizing you for what you are I get more back in touch with the world again.
Flighted birds have hollow bones. With freedom there are risks and drawbacks. Thistle was Falinās.
Itās not everyday you can have a ship where both characters are out of touch with reality and others and themselves and have this weird almost innate bond of her being compelled to protect him and care for him and him holding onto that unknowingly⦠Even if he didnāt need to, keeping her by himself and sitting on her while he plans and has a panic attackā¦.. And also he owns her and robbed her of her freedom & body & full mind but she still wuvs him. Weird intimacy with the guy who horrifically changed you into something else, and yet is not even aware he has done it.
Falin loves nature and Thistle is named after a flower⦠Her post-canon coming across wild thistles and feeling a rush of fondness and she doesnāt know why⦠Thistles have thorns, but they taste sweet. Just gotta peel them off and enjoys the sweet taste of it once itās open <3 Eat it like them honeysuckles
Slice of life 40k words thistlin sitcom I need you. Donāt make me write it myself. Sob
You are so so close sweetieā¦
wutiwant
I don't know what I want
But I know it's not this
These words don't mean nothing
Once they left my lips
More awake inside of my dreams
Was that really you, next to me?
Give me what I want, who am I supposed to please?
Who am I supposed to please?
Who am I?
Who am I? I?
Give me what I want
Give me what I want
Some links, since the pair is small enough that finding stuff for them can be hard:
Falin & Thistle search on pixiv
Falin & Thistle search on danbooru
Ao3: Thistle x Falin, Thistle & Falin
Ship names: ćć”ćŖć·ć¹ / ć·ć¹ćć”ćŖ. Thistlin
My own spotify playlists: Thistle & Falin, Thistle, Falin