#terfunsafe

This is a really good example of how TERFs disguise their attacks against trans men, and why it’s so harmful to consider TERF attitudes towards trans mascs as infantilizing.

The post is made to appear sympathetic to the man they are mocking. “Look at this poor ‘girl’ and how he’s mutilated himself” sounds sympathetic, especially to trans people who are subjected to aggressive, direct attacks on their identities and humanity.

But this performative sympathy is just a front so that TERFs can enjoy being cruel without appearing as the aggressor. This allows the audience to still enjoy the pleasure of engaging in cruelty while dressing it up as pity.

This plays into the broader tactic TERFs deploy with trans mascs.

Rarely ever do they confront us directly the way they do with trans women.

In fact, because they see us as women, their primary objective is to make sure we are never ever heard at all, so that they can maintain the narrative that none of us would ever transition of our own free will.

Instead, they poison the well. They talk to our “handlers”. Our parents, our doctors and psychiatrists, our husbands, boyfriends, our pastors.

The veneer of sympathy is not to appeal to trans men. It is to appeal to those they see as having ownership over us. When trans men fight back against this, the malice comes out in full force.

ummmm yeah, about that... the harm that jkr has done to the trans community is ZERO

some people on this website think they can hold the discourse hostage by BANNING A BOOK and CHANGING A FLAG. DOES THAT SOUND VERY "WOKE" TO YOU?

and you can believe differently, it is ok to disagree, but to think you can control what i REBLOG because you personally believe that people talking about anything related to the books is HARM somehow. IT'S NOT HARM. HARM IS HARM.

jk rowling has done 2 things: she's funding a women's shelter. and she says she doesn't think minors should have cosmetic surgery to their genitals because it hurts them and they are being lied to. surgeons ARE lying to queer people to get them to buy surgery. this is a CAPITALIST issue, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FUCKING HARRY POTTER.

it just goes to show how weak the argument is when trans rights activists say that you can't even TALK to terfs, that you should just punch them and attack them, that you can't even REBLOG GAY WOLFSTAR FANART FROM 2008, or else you are a THREAT to the trans movement. if the trans movement is threatened, so much, by dorcas meadowes and marlene mckinnon, then it is simply not strong enough to survive. I'm sorry. but stonewall was out here happening when it was ILLEGAL for men to do drag. I think it can handle a popular childrens' book series, with multiple crossdressing scenes in it, being SPOKEN about on tumblr.com. It actually kind of disgusts and confuses me that this is the new "praxis," it is very suspicious and scary IMO

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In general, this current began with the works of Janice G. Raymond, who wrote the book “The Transsexual Empire”, on which I base my position. She defined women as a biological group, with gender socialization that women go through throughout their lives, absorbing the stereotypes of the patriarchal society in which they grow up. Trans women go through male gender socialization and cannot understand the women’s issues that feminism is fighting against. It is impossible to feel like someone you have never been.

Men gain access to women’s toilets in order to harass them and also spread stereotypes about women by doing manicures, makeup, and growing out their hair etc. Moreover, queer theory is intended to help privileged white men hide their gendered violence by erasing the fact that the aggressor is male. Women, however, cannot do this, because they are not a privileged class. After all, a rich person can pretend to be poor, but a poor person cannot pretend to be rich. Transition harms women by spreading gender stereotypes and masking male violence.

And no, I do not hate transgender people and in general I do not hate people for this and I would certainly never belittle anyone. I hate the system developed by a capitalist patriarchal world. I have no problem with people wanting to feel more comfortable in society and in their own bodies but this issue should not be solved by reinforcing stereotypes about women and men.

Being trans is one of the biggest displays of breaking stereotypes, people literally reject the entire gender framework set out for them. This is a larger display of defiance of patriarchy than majority of the things i, as a cis woman, do.

So id like to ask what we are doing to break the stereotypes between men and women?. I am a woman with long hair, who wears makeup, who paints her nails. Every morning i, similarly to a trans woman, do my hair and makeup in order to feel more feminine and therefore more societally attractive. Should i be denied my womanhood because i reinforce these stereotypes?

And do we believe housewives should be excluded from feminism?

The most harmful stereotype is not how we present ourselves physically but that women are supposed to be subservient, palatable and accepting of misogynistic social limitations. Being a housewife was the limit for women for thousands of years and now some people voluntarily become part of that group despite its link to patriarchal ideals. Trans woman, as i said, reject their own framework despite prejudice and judgment and majority do not transition to become housewives (the most conventional, subservient role a woman can play) therefore it is rather hypocritical to say trans women aren’t women when they defy the most suppressive and damaging stereotypes.

Women are not a hive mind, socialisation is different based on race, culture, religion etc, i do not understand a woman from another social class, religion and continent any better than i understand a transwoman living in my city. ‘They dont get what its like being a woman’ is a sad denigration of feminist framework if u think it all just works on ‘oh we get each other over one thing!’ A transwoman, most are exposed to and engage with progressive ideas, may be less inherently misogynistic than a woman who has been raised in, emphatically wants to enforce and conforms to rigid gender roles.

We all fail to be feminists in one way or another, trans women commit no worse crime than cis women who choose to be heavily feminine presenting. It is a bad critique and definitely a deeply odd basis to assume for who should be included in feminism as it is in fact the feminist assumption that all have been conditioned to patriarchy and all will enforce it in some sense. The only basis on which this works is that ‘outsiders’, people that are new to what has been classed as womanhood by the feminist movement as a whole need to be perfect or near perfect to get in. This is also the type of thinking that excluded black women from white feminism, black women had to be ‘white enough’ to have their fight over their womanhood considered. We frown upon this social division now, but today we want the next division of biological sex? If we follow this thinking of ‘its us and them’, if we follow the social divisions that already exist within our world and emanate them within our feminism there is no reason that black and white women should have the same feminist treatment either, or straight and queer women. Feminism based upon pre existing social divisions is dangerous, especially so for women in minorities and does little more than enforce prejudices, it is not something that should be readily invited into the movement. Once again we cannot simply assume that a current feminist definition of womanhood which is simply based on who is within the movement at large will forever be correct, as historically that has never been the case.

I also think that if a man wanted to harass a woman in a bathroom they likely wouldn’t transition to do it, they would just do it- and unfortunately they do. This is a fantasised scenario that villainises trans women.

I’m sorry but the fact that you’re trying to be different and better than everyone else but you can’t even be bothered to know what the actual meaning of “Woke” is you are automatically fucking stupid in my eyes.

And beyond ignorant.

Telling other people how to identify and lecturing to them about THEIR identity is fucking absurd.

Kindly go fuck yourself and leave LGBTQ+ people alone just because you want to be “normal”.

Who the fuck do you think YOU ARE to tell people what they can and cannot identify as, and try to tell them about THEIR identity???????

You don’t get to do that, and fuck the people in your comment section too.

I can’t believe I clicked on this stupid ass video.

I should’ve known from the title and thumbnail that this was one of those pick me Queers who wants to throw other Queer people under the bus because they can’t STAND people expressing their identities in a way they don’t like. And try to blame the oppression of LGBTQ+ people on people who don’t follow the status quo but you’re not like those other queers because you’re “normal” and “civilized”.

Like ffs leave us alone. Go be a bully and miserable piece of garbage somewhere else.

So what the term "lesbian" isn’t just women x women anymore???? It’s a non man being attracted to other non men. Like who gives a DAMN if it’s not just girls liking girls?????? Not everyone with these feelings are REQUIRED to identify as Lesbian with this definition.

The world isn’t as simple as you think it is and people are not that simple either.

Like why do you care so fucking much that things don’t go YOUR WAY????

It’s not centering men to say that’s what being a Lesbian is, in fact you’re the one centering men because you think you’re de centering men but at the end of the day with you people EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MEN.

Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean it’s just all untrue. Both things can be right at the same time dumbass.

Sexuality is not as simple as you think it is, that’s why Pride is a colorful symbol, all the colors of the rainbow represent a different sexuality, because sexuality comes in different shapes in sizes.

Sorry that you’re just too stupid and closed minded to see that.

The reason why people say Queer instead of Gay is because Gay is mostly referring to men attracted to other men, not everyone is like that in this community and not everyone wants to go by that term.

It’s not just “putting people into boxes” when it comes to gender and sexuality, people give themselves these labels voluntarily because it fits THEM, just because YOU don’t go by these terms doesn’t mean nobody should.

If you don’t like labels that’s okay you do you but don’t try to dictate and judge people’s identities because THATS THEIR LIFE, NOT YOURS.

I may not understand all these concepts myself but I’m not gonna shit on people who do and cherry pick tiktoks I definitely looked for and didn’t just find them on my fyp, to make an entire community that I’m in look bad because I wanna get brownie points for being one of the “good ones.”

Let people be themselves and be happy, stop trying to make other people look bad because they don’t do things the way you do them.

The whole “I’m Gay but I’m not LGBTQ” is the most pick me token shit I have ever heard. It’s no different than Black conservatives and “anti-woke” people who are part of other marginalized communities.

They’re not gonna pick you, you’re a token that will get spent, stop trying to cozy up to bigots so you can feel good about yourself because eventually they’ll come after you too.

And I just fucking know this channel has so much TERF shit in it I can see it from a mile away.

“LGB without the T.”

Go

FUCK

YOURSELVES.

All of you fucking hypocrites need to leave people trying to live their lives they way they want to alone.

i am so sorry but if you post a take with the song “scream for my ice cream” or whatever botdf song it is your point is immediately invalid to me.

you could have the most amazing political stance ever but it crumbles once you use that song.

dahvie vanity is a disgusting man who deserves to rot in prison forever. the only reason that his band even existed was to get close to underage girls. the songs are about children. you CANNOT separate art from artist in this case. he has at least 21 victims, youngest being 10.

this is coming from a scene kid, might i add. botdf was a band that was prominent in the scene. it’s appalling how many gross artists get a free pass just because “the song is good.” we shouldn’t be able to brush off, excuse, or even deny their actions because of that.