how do you think Rapunzel's pregnancy went when it came to ryder and alina? do you think it was rough or like kinda smooth sailing (probably not but š„¹šš¾)
OHHHH bro you have no IDEA i have so many thoughts on this ššš
Okay. Short answer: it wasā¦ mixed. It started out fine, and all things considered things went smoothly, at least in terms of health!! But emotionally. uh. Far from it
I kind of touch on it in what i have of my cass fic so far, actually, but itās obviously very briefā¦
For starters this ties into a few headcanons i haveā first of which is that arianna and willow are actually identical twins, and the second is that rapunzelās family has a history of pre-eclampsia, which, in ariannaās case, developed into eclampsia, and is why she almost died having rapunzel.
Arianna had it worst, but rapunzelās grandmother also didnāt do well, especially since she was having twins! She survived the birth, but I think passed fairly early on in arianna and willowās lives due to long term complications.
Because of this, ukd initially planned to adopt, actually. Rapunzel was very unsure if she actually wanted to get pregnant at all due to that risk. But the twins were kind of a surprise!! And rapunzel immediately decided she did want to take that risk for them.
She was optimistic at first! They had plenty of wholesome moments and raps absolutely loved the early months especiallyā knowing she was literally Creating Life was so exciting to her. Even as time went on she was always talking and singing to them and the worst part was really just how fucking pissed off she was every once in a while. Mood swings didnt make her super weepy (although that did still happen sometimes) as much as they just made her So Fucking Pissed All The Time
The later months thoughā she struggled a lot more. She also started getting very restlessā that stuff srsly takes a toll on you, and it was even worse with twins. She was honestly miserable by the third trimester. She started feeling a lot more fatigued, and headaches became very common, and sometimes she didnāt want to do anything but lie in bed. And everyone Freaked out. Now DONāT WORRY rapunzel didnāt actually develop pre-eclampsia but they were all REALLY FUCKING SCARED she would. So she was kinda forcefully bedbound for the next three months straightā and was doted on a lot, to the point of it being overbearing, and i think we know that is Not something rapunzel would be happy about
She started to feel like she was trapped againā and worst of all, she was talking to her mom a lot, and she started recalling all the things arianna said she used to do, her hobbies and interests, how similar they wereā and realized that arianna gave up All of that to be queen and have her. She had better days too and frankly that made it WORSE bc she still Wasnāt allowed to go anywhere really!!! The feeling of restlessness and anxiety culminated into this dread and fear that motherhood would just be another cageā¦ the same way marriage felt at first. I think she was always afraid of that which is why they waited several years to have kids (rapunzel was 27 when the twins were born, I honestly canāt see her having kids before 25, girlie needs a few years to LIVE). But by the end of her pregnancy it all kinda hit her like a semitruck, and she realized how scared she was at the worst possible time, because there was no way she could back out now (and she didnāt want to, either.)
Rapunzel was scared, everyone else was scared, it was overall Not a fun few months for anyone involvedā¦.. cass and eugene were very overprotective and hovering over her all the time, i think frederic and arianna actually went to varian and Just in case tried to ask him if he could find something that could maybe save her if worst came to worst, since they didnāt have the sundrop flower anymore. They figured since he had access to the eternal library, he had to know something (spoiler alert: there was nothing, but varian sure as hell overworked himself to death for like two months straight trying because by gods he would Die for rapunzel). NOBODY was having fun!!!!
The night of the birth was one of the familyās most stressful nights in years. Nobody slept that night fr. The moment the twins were born and both they and rapunzel were perfectly healthy everyone in that damn castle felt the relief of a 100 pound weight falling off their shoulders
Rapunzel still struggled a lot with postpartum depression after the birthā¦ but the most important thing was that everyone was alive and healthy and everyone did everything in their power to keep her as comfortable as possible afterwards. Alina especially was much weaker than ryder and struggled to latch so that did scare them a lotā but ofc she ended up being okay. Rapunzel was incredibly happy though and loved the twins very much, she knew it was worth it, but she did immediately decide she would literally NEVER do that again and EVERYONE was in unanimous agreement
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So Tangled is one of my favorite movies so now I have to ask a fellow fan. Do you think Gothel was a good mother? Apparently there are people who think she is.
in an AU where Varian is Steven, who do you think the other characters would be? (iknow Rapunzel should be Steven since she's actualy the main character but! here's my explanation: Varian my favorite)
iāve been thinking about it, and my first thought was Ulla as Rose, Quirin as Greg, and Donella as Pearl. Ulla being Rose feels obvious in the sense of her being this mysterious absent figure whose choices basically shape Varianās entire life, while Quirin as Greg fits because heād be the parent left trying to raise a kid who has inherited something way bigger and more complicated than either of them fully understands.
Donella as Pearl is the one i keep going back and forth on, but i think it could work really well? especially if Hugo is Connie, because Donella could still have that sort of intense mentor/parental-adjacent relationship with him. Pearl and Connie have that dynamic where Pearl teaches her to fight and kind of projects her own unresolved stuff onto her, so Donella could fill that role with Hugo pretty easily
iām not totally sure who Hugoās parents would be in this version, though. maybe Cyrus could work as his older brother/guardian? Like, maybe Hugo doesnāt have the exact same family setup Connie does, but Cyrus being the person responsible for him could still fill that role. It would also make the Nightmare Hospital equivalent really interesting, because Cyrus being protective of Hugo is kinda awwww i think
but i have NO IDEA who the other Crystal Gems would be and um i jsut wanted a second opinion maybe cause you're like the only other person i know who's really into Steven Universe and TTS
OFC I DOOOO and no ur so right bc i have actually drawn don as pearl before in a scenario much like thisā¦ HEHE
BUT i regret to inform you i do not and iāve honestly been trying to figure smthn like this out for so long but for a tts au instead šš bc like gregpearlrose are SOOOOO uknighted dream coded to me. Like pearlrose is truly just cassunzel but written better and greg fits eugene sooo well and pink and white is literally gothel and rapunzel I know there was some inspo there okay i JUST CANT PROVE IT.
so i have such a vague idea of an au of that in my head with ryder as steven and i do know in that scenario i imagine varian taking on amethystās role, i think that suits him very well to be more of an older sibling type especially considering his relationship w rapunzel. Pearl is obviously cass. But garnet? NO fucking clue. And idk about a connie either (ryders aroace so he gets no love interest but heās the one most like steven and zach callison is literally his voiceclaim so /j) It rlly just ends at that.
I do agree cyrus being hugos parent would be SOOOO cute actually i can definitely see him as that overprotective stern type and honestly i could see him being a doctor since i totally feel like hed be pretty soft deep down. I actually inspire my interpretation of ulla and varianās relationship off of rose and steven a LOTā¦. varian looking for this idealized version of a perfect mother hes been led to believe exists but really ulla is Flawed and MESSY and Human and thats the reality heās forced to face when he finds her in the library. I mentioned it in the linked post and Iām Pretty sure iāve ALSO made a post Kind of going into this (at least going into how i interpret their relationship) but i dont know for sure so iām not gonna go digging for it rn but that scene in storm in the room is just so ulla and varian TO ME
But yeah everyone else. No clue. I honestly think to make it work youād probably just have to mess around and you wouldnāt be able to stick to the plot or dynamics word for word. Which would definitelyyyy make things difficult. Itās why iāve never rlly expanded on my own au past vague thoughts looking at gregpearlrose stuff like yessss thatās LITERALLY uknighted dream
Yong would be onion though this is really important i think /hj
underrated uknighted dream side effect: eugene "stealing" captain's horse, captain's job, captain's special mission and captain's daughter. cap would probably not see it that way, especially by the point ukd would actually form (and he knows cass would hate this line of thought too), but outsiders' pov is gotta be that wild.
you try to catch a guy and almost hang him, and the next thing you know 1) the best guard horse is breaking him out; 2) he finds the lost princess; 3) he and said princess are making out with your boss's daughter; 4) he's your boss now. the horse is second in command, you're pretty sure.
I CACKLED AT THIS oh my god these are the random ukd insights i LIVE for. one of my favorite random hcs is that some people spread rumors early on in the relationship that rapunzel is having an affair and every time eugene hears about it he just makes up a new lie either contributing to it or debunking it and everyone just ends up in this weird game of misinformation telephone because he told one guy shes been sleeping with cass the whole time and he told another guy that the real reason rapunzel wasnāt at that meeting was because she was at a book club meeting with shorty and maximus
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do you have any fic recs for Tangled The Series (or the movie, that would be cool too)? Iām slowly getting back into my obsession with it.
OOOH HMā¦ ok i dont read a Ton of fics but i have some laying aroundā¦. shockingly iāve never actually talked abt these ones, but the series āLingering in The Golden Gleamā by Avatar_Vyakara. Especially āForging Coronaā, āDetesting the Faults Beyond Measureā, and āDrops of Gold and Silverā. These are actually some of the few fics iāve DOWNLOADED onto my phone and for GOOD REASON.
I literally cannot recommend these fics enough to Anyone and iām so baffled I havenāt mentioned them here before!!!! bc oh my god!!! Forging Corona and Detesting The Faults Beyond Measure are basically short oneshot collections for the most part, while Drops of Gold and Silver follow like a very brief snippet prompt format, and yet theres so much packed into just those few sentences
If you enjoy the worldbuilding of the show, the characters in general, or really just ANYTHING i can assure you Will find something you like here. There is some crossover content, but itās easily skippable if that isnāt your thing. This author puts SO much care into how Everything is written, every character and piece of the world and the magic displayed within the show. Theres a lot of background/side characters who get a lot of love here, along with some underrated character dynamics and just some really good exploration of existing plot points in generalā all things i LOVE seeing as someone who loves Every piece of this show. The author truly doesnāt seem to have bias for Any particular character hereā EVERYONE is loved and even characters you might dislike in the show i feel you might come to enjoy seeing here.
Itās really hard for me to explain just what I love abt this fic but I think its the fact that likeā itās very canon compliant without feeling messy like i think the show does at times, and taking a lot of the problematic aspects off the table. They keep it set in a fantasy world, as well, which is typically my approach to the seriesā (i REALLY just donāt like disney trying to convince us these stories are happening in the real world, and Iām sure thatās someones cup of tea obviously but for me its like. cmon no the fuck they arenāt) but they donāt just stop at that. Likeā this has a full on fantasy religion/theology system, a complete timeline, holidays and even a calendar system that differs slightly from our own???? On top of the holidaya there are just overall lot of subtle cultural/social elements engrained into it too that were created specifically for this worldā And I wonāt spoil it but they even have an Adorable exploration/reasoning for the characters talking to their animal companions in-universe. itās ACTUALLY insane
Obviously i dont agree with EVERY single interpretation/characterization in this fic but likeā itās just so fucking good in every other way that the things that differ donāt matter at ALL. To say i take a lot of inspo from this fic in my own work would be the understatement of the Century, from the characterizations to the religion/theology system and worldbuilding. Honestly the only thing stopping me from adapting it completely is that the author hasnāt really been active in Years and idk if theyād want me using their world GAHAHAHAA
Itās emotional yet keeps the tone and silliness of the show, the animals even get some fun moments amongst each otherā¦ it explores a lot of the characters on a deeper level than they may have originally gottenā¦ thereās some vat7k stuff in here too, but its pretty subtle so you donāt really need to know anything about vat7k to understand it. I just. GAH. I love it a lot. Itās my top recommendation by FAR
finally moving on from that thoughā i only have a few multichapter fics i really like (mostly just cuz i havenāt read many) but, āDestinies Fulfilledā is a really good s3 rewrite fic Iāve taken some inspo for although i will say preemptively i keep getting distracted from it and have never finished it bc im Really bad at longfics. ādarkness exists to make light truly countā is another one of those that I havent finished (and it might still be unfinished actually) but is really fucking good (basically just a retelling of the movie but with freckle siblings, itās adorable)
And here are some oneshots i rlly like:
āNight Time: Contemplation and Conversationā - HUGE. HUGE. HUGE. cass and lance interaction AGHHHHH one of my favorites EVER.
āat last, sunriseā
āEugene Fitzherbert Versus Teenage Sassā (my friend shoutout hiiii :3)
āthe rocky road to redemptionā - really fun varian and cass s3 interaction!!!
āa messenger from coronaā - literally just an autistic rapunzel cassunzel centric fic and itās So fucking special to me
āthose golden momentsā - post series new dream family stuff, mentions of miscarriage
ātastes like homeā - this was written for me during the recent secret santa event but im not biased at all promise
and ofc obligatory uknighted dream shoutout from our communityā basically everything from ThisGuyLikesMovies, āRestā, āNow, More than Everā, and, another one of my absolute FAVORITES, āLong Liveā, by my beloved mutual and also unfinished bc we are TWINNING (feel free to check out my mama cass fic āChildren of The Moonā i swear iāll update it Eventually) but i absolutely adore the silly shenanigans here and its SOOOO fucking cute i think abt it all the time
pearl and garnet were like tangled's eugene and rapunzel is something i never knew i needed, bc you're so right!!! also garnet š¤ rose being the run-aways... pearl is not not run -away, but i feel like she has different relationship with it.
in a sense that she doesn't really have much to return to. sapphire and ruby had important jobs and potentially gems they've been friends with, rose had her diamond family, even though it was Like That, and then pearl had pink and likely no one else. greg is closer to rapunzel side of running-away too, tbh.
something something, eugene being an orphan/seemingly not having people before rapunzel who'd mourn him š¤ pearl being treated as one of many pearls/like an object or smartphone-dog amalgamation.
YESSSS YES UES YOU GET IT!!!! ROSE IS ALSO SO RAPUNZEL CODED TO ME LIKE. i KNOW there was some rapunzel and gothel inspiration with pink and white i swear i just cant prove it /j
I LOVE THE PEARL AND EUGENE CONNECTION HERE TOO LIKE YES,,,,,,,,, eugene was never treated like a person either rlly just a criminal. He also spent so much of his life being dehumanized because nobody gaf about the fact that he literally only resorted to crime to survive bc thats not how the law treats criminals ESPECIALLY back in the day!!!! Idk iām kinda just stringing thoughts together but eye feel like. Rose kinda has that connection with garnet because she was also running away to reinvent herself ie rapunzelā¦ and both her and rose give pearl someone who actually cares abt and respects her as her own gem and not just a servant ie eugene
pearl is also cassandra if you watched tangled the series and sheās actually the one i associate with her above all else but most people didnāt watch it so. irrelevant to the current conversation,
I stopped interacting with the tts fandom ages ago bc it was too much for me (i think ur the only person i still follow lol) and everytime I'm like "man I miss my silly princess show maybe the fandoms cooled down by now :)" I end up seeing u talk about some absolutely insane new discourse and am reminded of why I left in the first place LGMKDKF. thank u for ur service I think every tangled fan thats been here for the past 5 or so years should get like. a veterans discount or something. Financial compensation. For our troubles.
AHSHDSJFNG HONESTLY ITāS PRETTY CHILL MOST OF YHE TIME IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU JUST KEEP GETTING REALLY UNLUCKY ššš god ur so right we deserve money for ts. It makes me really sad though that it keeps pushing so many people away just because people cant behave themselves bc i love this show so bad ughhhhh
