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Svali: An Underacknowledged Influence on Alter Programming Conspiracy Theories

I realized that for all I’ve written about Svali, I’ve never done a proper 101 post on her. I constantly see alter programming believers who warn people to stay away from her because she’s been exposed as a fraud and she’s pushing racist stuff, but what these people don’t realize is that she’s one of the sources of the parts of the conspiracy theory they believe in. She’s been an influence on people like Dr. Alison Miller (who explicitly quotes and recommends her in Healing the Unimaginable: Treating Ritual Abuse & Mind Control), Dr. Ellen Lacter (who literally recommends her on her website), and Unwelcome Ozian (who copied a lot of her material).

Basically, Svali is a woman who helped bring the Satanic Panic into the 21st century. She first became active on the Internet in 2000, presenting herself as an Illuminati survivor and former programmer who was here to help educate people on the topic of ritual abuse. She posted numerous articles on Suite 101 from March of 2000 to October of 2002. (Here are two archived versions of Svali’s Suite 101 publications – here and here. The first link is older and doesn’t have some of her later content; the newer one was made at a point where some of her older material was removed.)

This is a long post, so I'm putting the rest below the cut.

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are there any red flags to look out for in people who talk about being survivors of RAMCOA/TBMC? i've seen you mention some potential red flag asks before

I’ll use Svali as an example.

She says she is the best, the smartest, the most liked, the first at a number of things, is in two places at the same time, the number of deaths she says she has witnessed, the list goes on. These are red flags.

Here’s a LINK

Here, when I answer questions I take the approach that the person is being honest. They are asking a question regarding their experience that isn’t enough information for me to form an opinion about them. Furthermore trauma and programming can lead to memory issues. This doesn’t mean the person is being deceptive, it means they are on their healing journey.

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"The Illuminati is breeding demon/human hybrids in underground bases!" Still not beating the "conspiracy theories are porn for puritans" allegations! 🤭

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There's this bit of alter programming conspiracy mythology lore that goes around in a lot of places, and for awhile now I've wanted to talk about it - where it comes from, and why resonating with it doesn't mean what conspiracists say it means.

Specifically, it's this claim that cultists program young children with "the steps of discipline," which look something like this:

To not need

To not want

To not wish

Survival of the fittest

Code of silence

This bit of lore comes from Svali, first published November 2nd, 2000. For those who haven't heard, Svali is a woman who claims to be a former Illuminati programmer. Her claims are very obviously influenced by the writings of Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler. (Svali has also influenced professional therapists who purport the reality of alter programming, such as Dr. Alison Miller and Dr. Ellen Lacter, and self-proclaimed Monarch survivor Unwelcome Ozian.)

So getting back to the alleged steps of discipline, I'm going to look at some ways these things can develop in a child without the kind of programming proclaimed in alter programming conspiracy theories.

All it takes to crush a child's ability to acknowledge their needs and to want and wish is a pattern of neglect coupled with adults invalidating, shaming, and perhaps even punishing a child for expressing themself.

(Content warning for specific examples of things adults might say ahead, including food shaming and slut shaming. Read on at your own discretion.)

For example, let's say a small child sees a toy and expresses wanting it. An adult might say in a very harsh tone of voice, "You have enough toys already and that one's so expensive. You should be grateful for what you already have instead of always asking for more." The child learns that wanting things is bad.

A child might tell a parent that they're hungry, and the adult might say "Oh my god, you literally just ate. You're always eating, eating, eating so much." The child not only learns not to ask for food, but also learns that their desire for food is bad.

An adult might see a child looking at a fashion magazine and say, "Wow, look at those girls all tarted up like whores. It's disgusting that they put this kind of filth in magazines. Why are you even looking at this garbage?" The child, who was secretly wishing to look as cool and grown-up as the models in the pictures, learns that their dreams are wrong and shameful.

Simple passive neglect and ignoring also alienates children from their needs and wants, because they eventually learn that asking is futile and wanting only leads to disappointment.

What Svali calls "survival of the fittest" programming appears to describe a state where children take out their frustrations on others. Children who are neglected and invalidated inevitably have all kinds of pent-up feelings, and if they see their parents commit violence, they are very likely to channel their rage in the same way and take it out on other children. It does not require any programming at all.

What Svali calls "the code of silence" reflects how children in dysfunctional homes rarely talk about what happens at home. But this is not at all unusual and it hardly requires the elaborate tortures she describes.

For one thing, children don't usually see adults talking about their dysfunctional behavior with others, and so they often implicitly learn that this just isn't something you bring up to other people.

Adults can also use fear and guilt tactics, telling children something like "If you tell anybody about what happens at home, they won't understand that I do this because I love you, and they'll call the police and I'll get taken away and you'll never see me again."

Adults can also just punish children for talking about stuff at home - not with the ridiculously elaborate ritual punishments Svali describes, but with the usual kinds of punishments abusive and negligent adults come up with.

This is kinda how the whole alter programming conspiracy theory works - it describes real ways people can be impacted by abuse and neglect, but it ascribes unnecessarily elaborate and deliberate forms of abuse and neglect instead of admitting that these things are usually utterly banal in nature, and admitting that seemingly extreme symptoms of trauma do not imply seemingly equally extreme forms of abuse.

For more information on the origins of the alter programming conspiracy theories and how we know they're conspiracy theories, click here.

I started looking into Svali's book and almost immediately something jumped out to me. I work with game development and VR technology, and the claims she is making about VR are impossible, for reasons that better tech cannot fix. Specifically, the human inner ear gets very disoriented by VR programs which involve moving at a realistic pace.

This is because it can feel you aren't moving, but is "seeing" you move as though walking normally. The disconnect causes nausea and dizziness, and is why VR games often have fixed points you can shift between but no ability to walk. So her claims about VR assassination programs are obviously bunk.

The reason it jumped out though was because this is something that is obviously fake to me specifically because I know "more advanced VR" would not solve the underlying issue. Really highlights how if you understand a topic, these claims are obviously ridiculous straight away, but it could fool someone who doesn't know why e.g. VR is limited the way it is.

Honestly going back to what you said about using conspiracy theorists as sources, aside from the obvious (If a conspiracy theorist is talking about something true, they are likely twisting the evidence and/or using this as a foot in the door for a conspiracy to seem more grounded. Even if it is real, proper experts will have well informed opinions based on real evidence elsewhere), it also really put into focus for me the way that really thoroughly understanding the topic and learning from proper experts helps calibrate your bullshit-o-metre.

Yes to all of this!

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Fun Svali lore: Apparently, she underwent therapy for DID, which was how she "remembered" she was an Illuminati ritual abuse survivor. Eventually, she "remembered" that her husband and children were also Illuminati members. She broke the news to him, expecting he want to "leave" the cult, too. But like any reasonable person, he didn't believe her claims that he was unknowingly part of a satanic cult, and he did about the only sensible thing he could do in these circumstances: get a divorce and get the kids out.

It wasn't until later that I learned that my mother was my cult trainer the first five years of my life; that my husband was taking me back to cult meetings where I was severely punished and programmed to NOT tell in therapy. Once I had physical safety, and broke off contact with cult members, I immediately began stabilizing psychologically. But the price was high. My husband divorced me when I told him I remembered; I told him his cult name, mine and the children's, thinking he, too would want to get out. Instead, I lost custody of my two children in a long and expensive court battle with a justice system whose attitude was that ritual abuse was a delusion.

Unfortunately she eventually got full custody of the kids, though.

(Source)

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So, I just read It's Not Impossible: Healing from Ritual Abuse and Mind Control by Svali.

For those who don't know, Svali is a conspiracy theorist who popped up in the early 2000s claiming to be a former Illuminati/New World Order programmer. Her claims are based on the stuff put out by the likes of Mark Phillips/Cathy O'Brien and Fritz Springmeier/Cisco Wheeler, which in turn derives from stuff like The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, blood libel, witch panic, Michelle Remembers, and Alexander Hislop's anti-Catholic conspiracy theories. It's full of your typical Project Monarch psychological pseudoscience that can effectively be used to blame literally any symptom or behavior on programmed DID, whether or not someone actually has DID at all. It's got all the usual stuff about an alleged global cult that practices the most absurdly complicated, messy, and risky forms of mind control instead of just using the regular ol' indoctrination and manipulation tactics that work just fine for your more typical authoritarian assholes.

She is regarded as a ritual abuse/alter programming expert by people such as Ellen Lacter and Alison Miller, and if you search through the citations on many ritual abuse/RAMCOA websites, you'll often find her name. If you didn't have any familiarity with Svali's outlandish claims before, I think after reading this you'll agree that no sensible person should ever be citing her as an authority on anything. Here are some of the weird and ridiculous claims she makes in this book:

Fetuses are tortured and programmed in the womb. They are capable of making choices presented to them in-utero. (Yes, according to Svali, fetuses can fully understand language and process questions.)

Children can be forced to forget things by threatening them with death if they don't. (Literally not how memory works. If anything, death threats would make it harder to forget.)

Toddlers are trained as assassins and sent to kill wealthy targets, because wealthy people tend to have, shall we say, a predilection for children. (Yes, some wealthy people are child molesters. But claiming they're all into this as a group is absurd. It's also two antisemitic conspiracy theory tropes with the serial numbers filed off.)

Alice In Wonderland programming includes games of croquet where the balls are the decapitated heads of children. (Always with the absurdly over-the-top programming methods.)

The conspiracy programs people from birth to have a visceral fear and hatred of Christianity. (The function of this claim is to deny the traumatic impact of Christian religious abuse.)

"Many occultic groups" hate Israel and aim to destroy its national security through infiltration. (Of course we're going to get Christian Zionism in this conspiracy theory.)

"Higher occultic groups" round up Christians "from prisons and camps in third world countries under oppressive regimes" to torture and crucify them. (Typical oppression fantasy of white American Christian conservatives.)

Genetically enhanced individuals were first produced in the 1940s. (Quite unlikely, given that DNA's role in inheritance wasn't even determined until 1943.)

Claims that "The Light of The World" is an occultic painting that depicts the Antichrist. (Actually, it just depicts Christ.)

Theta systems are trained to psychically kill from the time they're in the womb. Theta assassins have sex with the target, then use the resulting soul tie to demonically kill them. (You know you're into some deep far right shit when they're talking about "soul ties" like this.)

Chi is a demonic power. (Always with the racism.)

Kabbalah is used to open portals to install demons. (And of course, the antisemitism.)

Druids can shapeshift into animals and trees. (This is how druids work in modern RPGs.)

Mages can shapeshift into various animals. (So many occultists WISH this was true!)

Cult children are genetically enhanced for intelligence. (Meanwhile in the real world, not a single alleged survivor has ever demonstrated said intelligence.)

Saturn, Prometheus, and Vulcan are demonic deities. (Pure religious bigotry here.)

Mothers of genetically enhanced fetuses are brutally tortured and gradually dismembered throughout the entire pregnancy. Supposedly, miscarriage is prevented with the cult's "state-of-the-art technology" that's "at least 50-75 years ahead of what's publicly known."

Supposedly, "all videos, CDs, computer games and other digital media now have subliminals embedded, that are fed at 0.03 microseconds." She claims that you can't pause the video to see the message because the images will be blurry, as they're only visible when the media moves. How very convenient, Svali. (By the way, conspiracy theorists have been claiming media is full of dangerous subliminal messages for years, programming children to turn into mass murderers and whatnot. So far there is zero evidence that rock music turns you into a killer.)

Direct quote, "It is amazing how desensitized our population has become to sex, violence and the occult due to this mind control technology that sits in everyone's living room." (Literally your old-time Satanic Panic rhetoric.)

Direct quote, "I personally believe that we are very close to the “end times” of Revelations, and that the Occultic messiah (or antichrist) is alive." (Always with the End Times mythology with these people.)

Yeah, so this is one of the people that therapists pushing this idea that alter programming is a real thing regard as an authority. They're citing a far right conspiracy theorist who claims toddler assassins are sent to kill wealthy targets and that druids can actually turn themselves into trees.

I'd like to reiterate here that the type of alter programming people like Svali claim exist is not something there was ever any real evidence for, and the whole idea originated among conspiracy theorists. This was not a case of something that actually existed just being co-opted by bad faith actors. It is very literally a witch hunt, and one way we know this is that the early modern mythology of satanic witches and today's mythology of alter programming use many of the exact same tropes. And we also know that people can be coached into confabulating memories of events that never took place (you can see very obvious examples of this yourself here and here).

None of this is to say that human trafficking, sex abuse, religious abuse, institutional abuse, and so on aren't real; they very much are. But the kind of stuff that people like Svali push is not, and it's so full of pseudoscience and far right bigotry that it will harm survivors of extreme abuse even more. The function of this mythology, and the quack psychiatry that goes along with it, is to push people into hyperconservative Christianity and scapegoat the religious trauma it causes.

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Svali: "I'm here to help set you free from the Illuminati, a cult that is absolutely very real!"

Also Svali: "So if you're part of the Illuminati, then so is your family. If they don't agree with this, you have to cut them off. For your own safety. Trust me, I know best!"

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