Why does nobody remember that Maysilee was the one to encourage Haymitch to make Snow "own it".
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Why does nobody remember that Maysilee was the one to encourage Haymitch to make Snow "own it".

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yall. the difference between Haymitch and Katniss narrating is about priorities in observation
Katniss observes like a hunter. anything that isnt a threat or a potential meal isnt important. she watches for movements, strengths and weaknesses, recognizeable physical details so she can spot her target again later.
Haymitch observes like a village kid. who is whos father or brother or ex boyfriend, who picked a fight with whom, who has which niche skill that he might need later. he keeps track of everyone the way you can only learn from regularly gossiping in a place where there isn't much else to do
They both tell you what they think is important. for Katniss its survival. for Haymitch its community.
Lenore Dove wanting to be a mother, but being unsure how to be a good one because she grew up without her mother.
Lenore Dove wanting to be a mother, but being terrified of childbirth because her mother died giving birth to her.
Lenore Doge wanting to be a mother, but being terrified of dying during childbirth because she doesnât want to condemn another child to a life without a mother.
Lenore Dove wanting to be a mother, but absolutely paralyzed with terror in the face of all that could go wrong. If she dies in childbirth, sheâs condemning a child to a life without a mother, but if she lives, sheâs condemning them to a life with a mother who doesnât know how to be one.
Lenore Dove wanting to be a mother, but also being absolutely terrified by the thought.
i've been trying to pinpoint why haydove does not work for me, and I think it's john steinbeck's fault. In his book East of Eden, Steinbeck writes about a relationship between two characters, Aron and Abra. (Warning for heavy East of Eden spoilers)
Aron represents Abel. He embodies everything good. He is handsome, kind, and pure, and he believes the best in people. He builds them up in his mind to be perfect. Essentially, he puts them on a pedestal. To him, they can do no wrong.
He constructs an image of college, and when he goes to school, he finds he hates it because it is different than how he pictured it to be, and he wants to return home. He grieves his mistake and isolates himself. He wants to become a priest, yet he is uncomfortable when told a woman who runs a brothel attends his services. To him, the church is a pure place, where everyone is free of sin. That is how he goes about lifeâ he creates perfect images of people that are not true.
He constructs an idea of his own mother, whom he believes to be dead, as a golden woman, a woman who has never sinned in her life. When he finds out she is alive and runs a brothel, he enlists in the army and gets himself killed. He cannot cope with the fact the images he has built of these people are not the truth.
these two instances really stick out to me for their similarities and their differences.
In Sunrise on the Reaping, we see Haymitch struggle with his inaction and what it means about his acquiescence to the Capitol. He failed to act and fight alongside someone he loved and it inspired in him a deep shame.
"Plutarch's voice taunts me. "The question is, why didn't you?" I can't say I'm not a killer anymore. That leaves brainwashed or cowardly."
As a consequence of his inaction, Maysilee (and Maritte) have made themselves direct targets of the gamemakers an act that foolishly leaves Haymitch with only one true opponent, Silka. Maysilee's death and Haymith's compliance to Capitol authority haunt the choices he makes as he prepares to play the role the Capitol demands of him, in the hopes of of keeping his remaining loved ones safe. -----
However, in Mockingjay, we see a different kind of inaction. Here is Peeta, a boy he loves - against all effort and against his better judgement. A boy he failed and abandoned to the Capitol just as surely as he abandoned his Newcomers. As he abandoned Wellie. As he abandoned his friends in District 12. All for a purpose, but all with the same sense of failure and loss. But he gets him back. He gets his boy back. And he knows what this means for the girl, even if she's too out of sorts and ill-prepared to admit it herself. In bringing Peeta back, Haymitch will get Katniss back as well. He'll have his family in one place. Safe. Away from the Capitol. Away from Snow. Away from the fire and the poison and the snakes. And then he's faced with a Peeta that is filled with Capitol poison. He sees the one thing he can't even begin to comprehend. And he freezes. And, if Boggs hadn't been there, it would have cost him everything. ---- Two entirely different moments of inaction from Haymitch. For entirely different reasons. But I feel that these two moments likely haunt him just the same.

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I keep hearing people say âwe all fell for the propagandaâ because we believed what was on the recording Katniss and Peeta watched in catching fire, but I need yâall to understand, thereâs a difference between buying into propaganda and just being lied to.
Yes, they used the manipulated footage to spin the story in favor of the Capitol, but anyone that didnât have all the information would have to take it at face value. Thatâs whatâs so scary about it! The only one alive who knew exactly what happened from start to finishâno cuts or editsâwas forced to keep quiet under the threat of anyone he remotely cared about being killed. Even if you watched the games live youâd only have whatever the gamemakers decided to show. Maybe if you were paying close attention youâd catch that some events in the recap were out of order, but what can you do with that? Is that enough to clue someone in on how big a picture theyâre really getting?
If you want to see what falling for propaganda looks like, look at Effie. Sheâs a very empathetic person, but even someone like her can be convinced that hunger games are a ânecessary evilâ. Right after acknowledging that Haymitch is a human being, and that his position couldnât have been easy, she says âBut they really are for the greater good, the hunger games.â Itâs like sheâs trying to convince herself, or justify the system sheâs participating in. The whole spiel in chapter 13 sounds like it couldâve been taken word-for-word from some kind of political ad, probably something thatâs been drilled into her head since childhood.
I feel like the theme of propaganda in sotr is a lot more nuanced than âitâs easy to fall forâ, itâs more about how itâs used. In the Capitol itâs saying the games are what we have to do to keep the peace (the same conclusion snow came to in tbosas), and in the districts itâs saying the Capitol is all-powerful and resistance is pointless. You can see the effects of that even on Haymitch in his thoughts throughout the book. Itâs a valuable lesson because if we know how propaganda works itâs easier to spot it for ourselves. I think thatâs what Suzanne was hoping for when she wrote it. The hunger games series has always been a reflection of real life, a way to make our societyâs problems more visible by letting us detach and see it from an outside perspective.
Anyways Iâve been yapping for too long, thanks for reading this if you got to the end!
Suzanne Collins has a lot of subtle details in the Hunger Games Books. She also double dips details and meanings. What Iâm tryin to say is:
I donât think Haymitchâs Birthday being Reaping Day is just about making him a sorrier story. Or about compounding on July 4th itself.
The Reaping is a Lottery (SO to Shirley Jackson) and what else in US history is a lottery that regularly takes the young and feeds them to horrors they didnât vote for? The Draft.
And how did the U.S. make the Draft ârandomâ during Vietnam? They picked Birthdays. (The order the days were pick=the order the boys were recruited until no more were needed)
Haymitch is a Vietnam Veteran.
An Analysis of Beetee, Wiress, and Ampert in SotR
Thereâs something I have to get off my chest, and thatâs the handling of Beetee, Wiress, and Ampert on Sunrise on the Reaping. This critical analysis is rather long, and you can feel free to skip it if you donât care for critical commentary on a book youâve really enjoyed. If you are interested, read on.
[Critical analysis, and spoilers, of Sunrise on the Reaping under the cut.]